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James Maddison sell on clause? Bid from WEST HAM (1 Viewer)

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Grendel

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  • Aug 11, 2018
  • #701
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Well said Calista, " your bang on the money " :emoji_thumbsup:
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His post was such drivel I couldn’t be bothered to even reply.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 11, 2018
  • #702
Grendel said:
His post was such drivel I couldn’t be bothered to even reply.
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Couldn't give a monkeys what you think. :emoji_sleeping:
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 11, 2018
  • #703
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Couldn't give a monkeys what you think. :emoji_sleeping:
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The notion we sold him “on the cheap” is utterly laughable.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 11, 2018
  • #704
Grendel said:
The notion we sold him “on the cheap” is utterly laughable.
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Couldn't give a monkeys what you think. :emoji_sleeping:
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Adge

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  • Aug 11, 2018
  • #705
stupot07 said:
I bet Adge is at home weaping into his pint


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Yeah, it had no head on it!
 

Calista

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #706
Grendel said:
The notion we sold him “on the cheap” is utterly laughable.
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Who used those words? We got as much as could be expected at the time, given that we sold him too soon, didn't give him time to flower in the first team, and consequently never got the benefit of his growing market value. Yeah, Anderson said we negotiated a stake in his future career, but it's most likely peanuts in today's market. He's worth at least ten times as much as we'll ever see from the deal, just as I predicted at the time. I'm realiistic enough to know we are minnows now, however if you think it was great business to sell at the first opportunity, maybe you're the one talking drivel?

The best young player to come through our ranks for decades only played a few first team matches for us, and as a fan that pisses me off. But I guess if you don't care about talent, it's easier to take a more mature and detached view about it.
 
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harvey098

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #707
Grendel said:
The notion we sold him “on the cheap” is utterly laughable.
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We definitely sold him too cheap. We should’ve offered him the highest wage contract in the clubs history and let him take us up the leagues. He was always going to end up as one of the prems best players.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #708
harvey098 said:
We definitely sold him too cheap. We should’ve offered him the highest wage contract in the clubs history and let him take us up the leagues. He was always going to end up as one of the prems best players.
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One player cannot take you up the leagues. Given his performances after he signed for Norwich it’s hardly likely he’d have reversed the horrors of the following season.

The highest wage in the club’s history would have broke FFP rules by the way.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #709
harvey098 said:
We should’ve offered him the highest wage contract in the clubs history and let him take us up the leagues
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Ridiculous statement.

Would hardly take us up the league with the team Mowbray assembled the next season
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #710
robbiekeane said:
Ridiculous statement.

Would hardly take us up the league with the team Mowbray assembled the next season
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Also given that even lee Hughes was an £18,000 a week in the championship against league rules.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #711
harvey098 said:
We should’ve offered him the highest wage contract in the clubs history and let him take us up the leagues.
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And how would we have afforded that?
 

cov4theprem

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #712
Sick Boy said:
And how would we have afforded that?
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Get a loan from the Bank of Foresight
 

better days

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #713
Ironically Dagenham & Redbridge Managing Director Steve Thompson told their fans forum this week that they'd sold their sell-on rights to us and FGR for Jodi Jones and Christian Doidge after they went into financial meltdown last season
Football really is a predatory business
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #714
Marty said:
It's amazing a club in our position has 2 players at the very highest standard of world football. The youth academy has a lot to be proud off.
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We actually have 3.

With Cyrus Christie now starting right back at Fulham.

Brilliant achievement-shame they aren’t all playing for us .


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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 12, 2018
  • #715
Fergusons_Beard said:
We actually have 3.

With Cyrus Christie now starting right back at Fulham.

Brilliant achievement-shame they aren’t all playing for us .


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Indeed.

Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City only have 5 each which shows even with mega money and the best resources possible how difficult it is to produce a player capable of playing at the top level
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #716
Was thinking we could count Sturridge as well but not sure how long he actually spent in our youth set up..


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Astute

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #717
clint van damme said:
Sorry to continue the argument (!) But I was just asking. Personally I don't get it and having listened to the reasons put forward for the continuing interest still don't!
That's just my take on it. Each to their own, Just wish my twitter fed wasn't full of it because I couldn't give a fuck.
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Many others as well as myself said we could see his potential and should have held out for more money. The usual suspects said we got a very good amount for him. I said that I could see him going all the way. Then the normal name calling started. I said I would keep an eye on how he did. Got told I was wasting my time after his loan back to us.

So I continue to keep an eye on him. And those who said he wasn't good enough are now questioning why I still keep an eye on how he is doing.

I just don't understand.....
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #718
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Indeed.

Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City only have 5 each which shows even with mega money and the best resources possible how difficult it is to produce a player capable of playing at the top level
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Yes, also shows the ruin of money on football; whereas once upon a time young players at those clubs might have been given a chance, today it's a lot easier to spend £10m + on somebody due to the Sky windfall.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #719
Astute said:
Many others as well as myself said we could see his potential and should have held out for more money. The usual suspects said we got a very good amount for him. I said that I could see him going all the way. Then the normal name calling started. I said I would keep an eye on how he did. Got told I was wasting my time after his loan back to us.

So I continue to keep an eye on him. And those who said he wasn't good enough are now questioning why I still keep an eye on how he is doing.

I just don't understand.....
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No one said he wasn’t good enough.

How much did we get for him?
 

Astute

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #720
Grendel said:
No one said he wasn’t good enough.

How much did we get for him?
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Didn't they?

Oh well must have been imagining things yet again.

Too small. Falls over too easy. Championship player at best.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #721
better days said:
Ironically Dagenham & Redbridge Managing Director Steve Thompson told their fans forum this week that they'd sold their sell-on rights to us and FGR for Jodi Jones and Christian Doidge after they went into financial meltdown last season
Football really is a predatory business
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We did similar for the likes of Kirkland... although that may have ended up a good deal, in hindsight!

Guess Jones is a wait and see, too...
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #722
Astute said:
Didn't they?

Oh well must have been imagining things yet again.

Too small. Falls over too easy. Championship player at best.
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Is Maddison a joker?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #723
A lot of this is assuming that he would continue to flourish at L1 and L2 level. Norwich have better players and possible better first team coaches.

Better players will inevitably afford players like Maddison time and space. If he was at Coventry with the likes of Andre Wright and Dan Agyei, his growth would have been stunted.

Look at Jordan willis, and Ryan haynes. Both coverted at the beginning of their careers. They’re still at square 1. You could question if they moved on, that they also would have flourished with higher ability players
 

Astute

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #724
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Is Maddison a joker?
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I suppose Grendel will have an excuse ready for what he said :smuggrin:
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #725
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Is Maddison a joker?
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Cue everyone checking what they wrote
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #726
I stand by my gif. Ha ha
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #727
Stand by it, he did dive a lot to the point of embarrassment.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #728
Astute said:
Didn't they?

Oh well must have been imagining things yet again.

Too small. Falls over too easy. Championship player at best.
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No don’t think so but as we sold him cheap I’m more interested in how much we received
 

Astute

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #729
Grendel said:
No don’t think so but as we sold him cheap I’m more interested in how much we received
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Undisclosed.

Or do you mean with the money for him going to Fester as well?

Also undisclosed.

But we wouldn't have got the second amount if you was right.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #730
Astute said:
Undisclosed.

Or do you mean with the money for him going to Fester as well?

Also undisclosed.

But we wouldn't have got the second amount if you was right.
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Uh? So he went too cheap but we don’t know how much. Right.
 

better days

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #731
Deleted member 5849 said:
We did similar for the likes of Kirkland... although that may have ended up a good deal, in hindsight!

Guess Jones is a wait and see, too...
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The club has already had offers for Jones
At least two Championship teams still wanted to take him while he was injured
Think the lad is happy here though and can't wait to get back playing
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #732
better days said:
The club has already had offers for Jones
At least two Championship teams still wanted to take him while he was injured
Think the lad is happy here though and can't wait to get back playing
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Still not realised until and unless he goes, however. He could come back worse, he could decide to run down his contract - all manner of things.
 
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Astute

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #733
Grendel said:
Uh? So he went too cheap but we don’t know how much. Right.
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Like I said you would make some sort of comment to try and make yourself look right.

I suppose we sold him for eleventy billion and got another eleventy billion for him.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #734
Astute said:
Like I said you would make some sort of comment to try and make yourself look right.

I suppose we sold him for eleventy billion and got another eleventy billion for him.
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Well no one knows
 

Brylowes

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  • Aug 13, 2018
  • #735
harvey098 said:
We definitely sold him too cheap. We should’ve offered him the highest wage contract in the clubs history and let him take us up the leagues. He was always going to end up as one of the prems best players.
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Who is/was the highest earner in the clubs history, I remember Dion Dublin signing a million
a year contract ‘so that’s basically £20.000 a week, would anyone have got more ?
Nick said:
Stand by it, he did dive a lot to the point of embarrassment.
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he did and it was embarrassing ‘and also the reason Norwich loaned him straight to Aberdeen
With the intention of toughening him up, it appears to have worked wonders.
 
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