Jake Bidwell (1 Viewer)

[lord_garrincha]

Decent wage with decent tenure.

But now we have a) 'potentially' a monster LWB; and b) with Panzo & Doyle, the left side of a back 3 is covered.

Was this a good use of our very limited resources?

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Think it still could be, the track record with him is good.

 

[CovLis86]

All the bashing is massively OTT. Don't know why he's been picked as the latest boo boy. He's certianly no world beater, or prem class. But he's absolutely a mid to high mid champ which is where we would like to place ourselves, so I don't get the abuse. People act like he's Keith o'neill stealing a wage.

 

[baldy]

I’m not convinced by that knuckle dragger lummoxing down that left wing as a wing-back - maybe better in the back three but nowhere near good enough at wing-back yet for us

 

[David O'Day]

He's a good experienced championship lwb

Some people really embarrass themselves over him

 

[David O'Day]

Absolute waste of budget the reason we will have to sell one of the big 3 to balance books is due to wasting money on the likes of Bidwell,Kane,Walker,Waghorn

Point proven

 

[David O'Day]

BORING

Not a day goes by when someone lists how many games he’s played who gives a shit he’s pants

He's a good player you daft twat,

 

[fatso]

Decent LB but not a LWB.
Squad player at best.

 

[David O'Day]

Doesn’t suit our system,I thought the manager would of known that before giving him a silly contract

Tayo will be ahead of him

Oh fuck off mate and your new troll account.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

BORING

Not a day goes by when someone lists how many games he’s played who gives a shit he’s pants

No surprises who liked this, the same guy who wanted us to sign the BFG

 

[covcity4life]

He got bit better 2nd half

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

Decent LB but not a LWB.
Squad player at best.

He is a better lb than lwb. We switched today, so having flexibility is useful.
With our style / demand on wbs / injuries and loss of form, I think he is a useful member of team and squad who will play and influence a good number of games this year.

 

[David O'Day]

I ain’t your mate Drivel

Hi Boosh

You ain't got no mates, that's why you are always trying to post on a forum you are banned from.

Time to put you on ignore again

 

[stupot07]

Think it still could be, the track record with him is good.

One of the main reasons he was ineffective in the first half is that Panzo, McFadzean and the midfield kept passing behind him, meaning he was having to control it facing his own goal making him go backwards. He is never going to take lots of players on but if we put it into space he gets in decent positions. His crossing was gash today though, although he was the only cov player that managed a single accurate cross all game, he did have 7 attempts.

I think you have to give the winger credit to managing to create that space against him.

He was a 6/10 today, no better no worse.

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[David O'Day]

One of the main reasons he was ineffective in the first half is that Panzo, McFadzean and the midfield kept passing behind him, meaning he was having to control it facing his own goal making him go backwards. He is never going to take lots of players on but if we put it into space he gets in decent positions. His crossing was gash today though, although he was the only cov player that managed a single accurate cross all game, he did have 7 attempts.

I think you have to give the winger credit to managing to create that space against him.

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Pretty much this, there were worse players today

 

[Jamesimus]

I know people on here love to jump to his defence based on his experience. And this isn't to single him out because he wasn't the worst today at all.

However, he's not a wing back. Certainly not within the way we play. He doesn't look to pass the ball progressively often enough, not particularly quick, he certainly doesn't look as comfortable as most of the other players with the ball at his feet. Got caught flat footed a few times today. One occasion where he chose to press at a daft time getting bailed out by Panzo.

I don't think he is an awful player, but he's definitely not the answer. I could forgive Maatsen's misgivings based on his age and aggressive desire to attack. With his experience I think what everyone who criticises him is saying is we should be expecting more from Bidwell.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

One of the main reasons he was ineffective in the first half is that Panzo, McFadzean and the midfield kept passing behind him, meaning he was having to control it facing his own goal making him go backwards. He is never going to take lots of players on but if we put it into space he gets in decent positions. His crossing was gash today though, although he was the only cov player that managed a single accurate cross all game, he did have 7 attempts.

I think you have to give the winger credit to managing to create that space against him.

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Also needs remembering players are going to be especially rusty with the early season start. Bidwell hasn’t been here even a year, and we need flexibility if we are to stand a better chance of adapting to different opposition and game scenarios.

Daft to write him off just yet, which to be fair the OP wasn’t.

 

[SBAndy]

Just don’t feel that he suits the way we play at all. That’s not all on him though. Wing backs need to be more dynamic than he is IMO.

 

[David O'Day]

He was the wing back in a good Swansea team though??

 

[Jamesimus]

He was the wing back in a good Swansea team though??

Meaningless that now though, is it not? Waghorn was a top player once, Gyokeres couldn't get in the Swansea team once...

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

His crossing was dreadful. Can’t remember a single on that found one of our lot in the box.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Meaningless that now though, is it not? Waghorn was a top player once, Gyokeres couldn't get in the Swansea team once...

Well it took Gyo a fair bit of time to look the part too.

 

[Briles]

I think he's a LB more than a WB. He doesn't worry me defensively but offers little going forward. Problem is we are comparing him to maatsen who was the opposite.

 

[Jamesimus]

Well it took Gyo a fair bit of time to look the part too.

He actually looked decent enough straight away to be honest. Just got better.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Meaningless that now though, is it not? Waghorn was a top player once, Gyokeres couldn't get in the Swansea team once...

I'll listen to the argument that he doesn't fit our style, but it's the ones saying he's not a wing back that need it pointed out that he is a wing back, as he's been a very successful one in the Championship over a number of seasons.

Anyway, one game does not make a summer.

 

[David O'Day]

Meaningless that now though, is it not? Waghorn was a top player once, Gyokeres couldn't get in the Swansea team once...

No, it shows he can play LWB at a good level.

He's not a player in decline Waghorn and the fact Cooper didnt fancy Vik has no baring on anything,

 

[David O'Day]

I'll listen to the argument that he doesn't fit our style, but it's the ones saying he's not a wing back that need it pointed out that he is a wing back, as he's been a very successful one in the Championship over a number of seasons.

Anyway, one game does not make a summer.

This, he can play wingback well.

Is he the wingback we need is a different conversation.

 

[mmttww]

Massive overreaction today. He wasn't great, but he wasn't awful. Got in to some good positions but fluffed two really good chances to set someone up. If he has five games like that to start the season, fine, criticism will be deserved but seeing him getting slated after today just shows how much people want to find scapegoats and moan.

 

[Jamesimus]

This, he can play wingback well.

Is he the wingback we need is a different conversation.

Let's settle on, he's not the wingback for us

I do still think if we opt for the 4-3-3 more often this season he may come into his own. I think having attacking players within closer proximity to him and down the channels will help.

 

[Jamesimus]

Massive overreaction today. He wasn't great, but he wasn't awful. Got in to some good positions but fluffed two really good chances to set someone up. If he has five games like that to start the season, fine, criticism will be deserved but seeing him getting slated after today just shows how much people want to find scapegoats and moan.

Please don't confuse my posts with slating him, many players weren't great today. My opinion of him is based upon last season too, so I'm hoping five games in this season, you'll be quoting me, pointing out how stupid I am!

 

[Hobo]

Decent wage with decent tenure.

But now we have a) 'potentially' a monster LWB; and b) with Panzo & Doyle, the left side of a back 3 is covered.

Was this a good use of our very limited resources?

Did you have this typed up before the game?

It is one game he did okay.

Godden is on a decent wage missed a sitter.

We got a very good away point today with lots of slightly below par performances.

 

[lord_garrincha]

Did you have this typed up before the game?

If I did, would my question not be valid?

Not trying to win a smug-ness war here.

 

[kingfield park skyblues]

Bidwell no pace, poor crosses, turned his back defending, and hardly made any tackles. Positive, one mark better than Eccles

 

[fatso]

No, it shows he can play LWB at a good level.

He's not a player in decline Waghorn and the fact Cooper didnt fancy Vik has no baring on anything,

We've yet to see it though.

 

[Evo1883]

Think its the opening day and he will have much better matches for us .. although you'd imagine the palace lad might not give him the chance too