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Transfer Rumour Jahnoah Markelo (9 Viewers)

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:40 AM
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ceetee said:
Exactly. He presumably thought his money could be better spent.

He obviously didn't realise that Bamford would have raced back to plug the gaps in midfield and defence
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He would have been a better outball for our defenders. I think youre missing the point
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:48 AM
  • #597
nicksar said:
It doesn't work quite like that but it's fair to say Dean Austin and his scouts do the majority of the recruitment/identifying possible signings work.
When the players finish training and have lunch before leaving for home Frank and his coaching team are at Ryton for several more hours.
He also arrives a couple of hours before the players rock up
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It’s not a slight at anyone but Austin, who I think is a poor scout. I just don’t agree with a system where a manager doesn’t have full control over the resources available to do the job. I didn’t agree with King blocking Bamford either. Give the manager a budget and let him use it how he sees fit, otherwise you can’t hold him fully accountable for results. As it is Austin seems to be unaccountable.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 11:53 AM
  • #598
shmmeee said:
It’s not a slight at anyone but Austin, who I think is a poor scout. I just don’t agree with a system where a manager doesn’t have full control over the resources available to do the job. I didn’t agree with King blocking Bamford either. Give the manager a budget and let him use it how he sees fit, otherwise you can’t hold him fully accountable for results. As it is Austin seems to be unaccountable.
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I would expect Lampard to be telling him what profile of player he wants then trusts Austin to find it.

We have seen both the sublime and the ridiculous from these players, they can produce stunning and dreadful football depending on their mental state. Grimes was signed for his consistency but even he has fallen way off his standards. How much of this is attributable to Austin? I genuinely don’t know.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 11:54 AM
  • #599
shmmeee said:
As it is Austin seems to be unaccountable.
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I think Austin would be out of a job relatively quickly if his signings consistently didn’t perform to the required standard.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:57 AM
  • #600
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would expect Lampard to be telling him what profile of player he wants then trusts Austin to find it.

We have seen both the sublime and the ridiculous from these players, they can produce stunning and dreadful football depending on their mental state. Grimes was signed for his consistency but even he has fallen way off his standards. How much of this is attributable to Austin? I genuinely don’t know.
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For me since he took over the players we’ve signed have generally had poor technique or a fatal physical flaw and have had poor mentality as well as generally being at best costing roughly what you’d expect. I don’t think we’ve unearthed a single gem and have overpaid for some very average players.

Markelo and Onyeka look to be two more with terrible technique and a seemingly inflated price tag tbh. He’s the one I’d move heaven and earth to replace asap if we are going up because like fuck would I give him £100m.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:57 AM
  • #601
SBT said:
I think Austin would be out of a job relatively quickly if his signings consistently didn’t perform to the required standard.
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Well they didn’t and he isn’t. Robins was though.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 11:58 AM
  • #602
shmmeee said:
For me since he took over the players we’ve signed have generally had poor technique or a fatal physical flaw and have had poor mentality as well as generally being at best costing roughly what you’d expect. I don’t think we’ve unearthed a single gem and have overpaid for some very average players.

Markelo and Onyeka look to be two more with terrible technique and a seemingly inflated price tag tbh. He’s the one I’d move heaven and earth to replace asap if we are going up because like fuck would I give him £100m.
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pahahahhahahhaha
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 12:01 PM
  • #603
shmmeee said:
For me since he took over the players we’ve signed have generally had poor technique or a fatal physical flaw and have had poor mentality as well as generally being at best costing roughly what you’d expect. I don’t think we’ve unearthed a single gem and have overpaid for some very average players.

Markelo and Onyeka look to be two more with terrible technique and a seemingly inflated price tag tbh. He’s the one I’d move heaven and earth to replace asap if we are going up because like fuck would I give him £100m.
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They have all been good technical players imo. The mentality however is a house of cards and when it goes the technique and physicality goes off a cliff with it. There has always been a yellow streak with this group, it looked over the summer that Lampard and his staff had knocked it out of them. They haven’t, and if they haven’t nobody ever will.

Onyeka however is not like any of the other players we’ve gone for.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 12:03 PM
  • #604
shmmeee said:
Well they didn’t and he isn’t. Robins was though.
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I think it’s clear from the subsequent results achieved from largely the same playing squad that replacing the manager rather than the players or the chief scout was the correct call in that scenario.

The Austin signings were - and largely continue to be - more than good enough.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:05 PM
  • #605
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They have all been good technical players imo. The mentality however is a house of cards and when it goes the technique and physicality goes off a cliff with it. There has always been a yellow streak with this group, it looked over the summer that Lampard and his staff had knocked it out of them. They haven’t, and if they haven’t nobody ever will.

Onyeka however is not like any of the other players we’ve gone for.
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Simms and Wright for the money we paid have dreadful technique. Simms in particular. Torp is OK but I’m fitter than him and my 10 year old is more physical than Sakamoto. Woolfenden, Thomas and Kitching are truly dreadful defenders. EMC is very hit and miss. Just not what I expect from a bunch of players costing £4m to £8m.

We are a very workman like team and play pretty poor football for a team at the top of the league that’s cost £70m to assemble.

Compared to what Badlan assembled for a fraction of the cost. We are not ten times that team despite costing ten times as much.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 12:08 PM
  • #606
shmmeee said:
For me since he took over the players we’ve signed have generally had poor technique or a fatal physical flaw and have had poor mentality as well as generally being at best costing roughly what you’d expect. I don’t think we’ve unearthed a single gem and have overpaid for some very average players.

Markelo and Onyeka look to be two more with terrible technique and a seemingly inflated price tag tbh. He’s the one I’d move heaven and earth to replace asap if we are going up because like fuck would I give him £100m.
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wev‘e not even signed him yet, give him a chance,
 

CCFC96

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  • Today at 12:21 PM
  • #607
shmmeee said:
It’s not a slight at anyone but Austin, who I think is a poor scout. I just don’t agree with a system where a manager doesn’t have full control over the resources available to do the job. I didn’t agree with King blocking Bamford either. Give the manager a budget and let him use it how he sees fit, otherwise you can’t hold him fully accountable for results. As it is Austin seems to be unaccountable.
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Christ we've had back to back losses and now the side is shit and Austin's recruitment is bad again. This place is genuinely incredible.

The last two losses are pretty much both on Frank - we've nicked goals in both despite looking overrun in midfield and he's sat on his hands both times. It's all very weird because earlier in the year (Pompey/Boro) he made pre and in-game tactical tweaks that won us points. Not really sure what's going on with him.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 12:23 PM
  • #608
shmmeee said:
Simms and Wright for the money we paid have dreadful technique. Simms in particular. Torp is OK but I’m fitter than him and my 10 year old is more physical than Sakamoto. Woolfenden, Thomas and Kitching are truly dreadful defenders. EMC is very hit and miss. Just not what I expect from a bunch of players costing £4m to £8m.
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We didn’t sign Simms and Wright for their technique, and with all due respect to your 10 year-old, I’m not sure he’d hold up under some of the challenges that Sakamoto takes on a weekly basis and continue to deliver.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 12:26 PM
  • #609
shmmeee said:
More weird quote that don’t really support the “manager has the final say” idea that’s vigorously defended on here.

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I think that is just saying that the owner has the ultimate say which is no different now than it ever was. If the owner isn't willing to sign off to pay for a transfer it doesn't happen.
 

David O'Day

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  • Today at 12:28 PM
  • #610
shmmeee said:
For me since he took over the players we’ve signed have generally had poor technique or a fatal physical flaw and have had poor mentality as well as generally being at best costing roughly what you’d expect. I don’t think we’ve unearthed a single gem and have overpaid for some very average players.

Markelo and Onyeka look to be two more with terrible technique and a seemingly inflated price tag tbh. He’s the one I’d move heaven and earth to replace asap if we are going up because like fuck would I give him £100m.
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Fucking hell mate you talk some utter fucking shite but this is next fucking level. 2 players that you have never seen and have not played a fucking game for us.

Fuck off and support Villa
 
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nicksar

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  • Today at 12:38 PM
  • #611
shmmeee said:
Torp is OK but I’m fitter than him.
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I 100% know that you aren't fitter than Torp or any professional football player...no one on here would be.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:49 PM
  • #612
nicksar said:
I 100% know that you aren't fitter than Torp or any professional football player...no one on here would be.
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Sometimes I exaggerate for comedic effect
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 12:50 PM
  • #613
shmmeee said:
Sometimes I exaggerate for comedic effect
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lol
 
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