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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:25 PM
  • #36
skyblu3sk said:
You see MVE shouting at the wingers all the time. They need to track back and unless we score more goals than have ever been scored before like the first part of the season it will fuck us.
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Mve is lucky compared to jds. The amount of times they broke on the counter down the left and jds was trying to cover and watch the full back while emc stood there or strolled into the centre circle.
 
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djr8369

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  • Yesterday at 10:26 PM
  • #37
larry_david said:
Roy Keane said it yesterday. Stop being scared of the challenge and embrace it.
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I was just thinking exactly this. It’s the opportunity of all their careers and they look fed up, nervous, jaded, and petulant. Beginning of season they looked like they were thriving. You can understand a bit of nerves but seem to have gone completely to pot.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 PM
  • #38
Nick said:
Mve is lucky compared to jds. The amount of times they broke on the counter down the left and jds was trying to cover and watch the full back while emc stood there or strolled into the centre circle.
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Not sure that's right. I think Esse is too attacking for our lineup pulls everyone out of position.
 
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marrrkjay_ccfc

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 PM
  • #39
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have to be honest, if we do actually bottle this I will be done with football for a long time.

You live for seasons like this and to see it being pissed away against shite teams because Doug is doing this on the cheap or because Lampard is committing tactical hari kiri, it’s inexcusable.
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The last month has drained all my enthusiasm for watching us play. The most frustrating thing is we can all see the problems but the people at the club either don't or haven't done anything to address them.

Teams have figured out how to play against us. We cannot play like we did the first few months of the season.

We have to do a Sunderland and change how we approach games. Get everyone behind the ball when we defend and don't give teams an inch.
 

Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:28 PM
  • #40
skyblu3sk said:
Not sure that's right. I think Esse is too attacking for our lineup pulls everyone out of position.
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He gets back better than emc, not as good as sakamoto though
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:29 PM
  • #41
marrrkjay_ccfc said:
The last month has drained all my enthusiasm for watching us play. The most frustrating thing is we can all see the problems but the people at the club either don't or haven't done anything to address them.

Teams have figured out how to play against us. We cannot play like we did the first few months of the season.

We have to do a Sunderland and change how we approach games. Get everyone behind the ball when we defend and don't give teams an inch.
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Speaking of Sunderland, their form went off a cliff too and the good football they were playing evaporated like what we’re seeing now. They got away with it in the playoffs.

I don’t think we will.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 PM
  • #42
I honestly don't know if I could motivate myself to keep up with it if we bottle this.

I'd definitely have to take some time out.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 PM
  • #43
Nick said:
He gets back better than emc, not as good as sakamoto though
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Saka helps as MVEs pace is supposed to cover across the pitch during most attacks.
 

Otis

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  • Yesterday at 10:31 PM
  • #44
Liquid Gold said:
I honestly don't know if I could motivate myself to keep up with it if we bottle this.

I'd definitely have to take some time out.
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The annoying thing is, you can kind of see it coming.

We need to go back to how we were at Southampton, where we looked by far the better side and then put on a fantastic defensive performance
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:31 PM
  • #45
skyblu3sk said:
Saka helps as MVEs pace is supposed to cover across the pitch during most attacks.
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That's been plenty of goals where mve is out of position or doesn't track back himself.
 

larry_david

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 PM
  • #46
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Speaking of Sunderland, their form went off a cliff too and the good football they were playing evaporated like what we’re seeing now. They got away with it in the playoffs.

I don’t think we will.
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Leicester also did a few years ago. It happens. You have to go back to basics. Honestly hindsight sure but set up tonight not to get beat and let our 'class' upfront win it.

Im gonna have nightmares about that gaping hole in our midfield. How FL is content with us playing an away championship game against a team in form, like that...Honestly if I was Gurney id ask him. Because.im genuinely curious how they think this is okay
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 PM
  • #47
Nick said:
That's been plenty of goals where mve is out of position or doesn't track back himself.
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The problem for ages has been keeping this aggressive shape and system while the energy needed to sustain it hasn’t been there. Lampard doesn’t know anything else so on it goes
 
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ccfc1292

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  • Yesterday at 10:33 PM
  • #48
Ccfcisparks said:
Perhaps if we got a decent referee we would win the league.
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In fairness, today's was okay.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:33 PM
  • #49
ccfc1292 said:
In fairness, today's was okay.
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i know mate, was a joke because he moans about every ref
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Yesterday at 10:34 PM
  • #50
Nick said:
That's been plenty of goals where mve is out of position or doesn't track back himself.
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I'm not sure how you don't see the fact that MVE is literally supposed to cover any break away that will knacker eventually.
 

ccfc1292

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  • Yesterday at 10:34 PM
  • #51
Ccfcisparks said:
i know mate, was a joke because he moans about every ref
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N tbf every other ref 99% of the time is a blind c**t
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 PM
  • #52
Nick said:
That's been plenty of goals where mve is out of position or doesn't track back himself.
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The system is designed for MvE to be up the pitch he’s not just doing it off his own back
 
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marrrkjay_ccfc

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  • Yesterday at 10:36 PM
  • #53
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Speaking of Sunderland, their form went off a cliff too and the good football they were playing evaporated like what we’re seeing now. They got away with it in the playoffs.

I don’t think we will.
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The reason Sunderland got their act together is they stopped playing the free-flowing football as teams worked out how to beat them (us beating them 3-0 for example). They then changed how they approached games and were extremely well organised. If we could keep clean sheets, we have the players to win games through moments of magic. Our midfield, sadly get bypassed and our defence simply aren't top 2 quality.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 PM
  • #54
marrrkjay_ccfc said:
The reason Sunderland got their act together is they stopped playing the free-flowing football as teams worked out how to beat them (us beating them 3-0 for example). They then changed how they approached games and were extremely well organised. If we could keep clean sheets, we have the players to win games through moments of magic. Our midfield, sadly get bypassed and our defence simply aren't top 2 quality.
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They went on a wretched run right into the playoffs and being blunt, got lucky against both us and Sheff Utd.
 

larry_david

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 PM
  • #55
marrrkjay_ccfc said:
The reason Sunderland got their act together is they stopped playing the free-flowing football as teams worked out how to beat them (us beating them 3-0 for example). They then changed how they approached games and were extremely well organised. If we could keep clean sheets, we have the players to win games through moments of magic. Our midfield, sadly get bypassed and our defence simply aren't top 2 quality.
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Spot on. Hard to beat, trust our forward players. Don't play 6 forwards with a fatigued grimes holding the tidal wave of attacks back
 
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marrrkjay_ccfc

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  • Yesterday at 10:39 PM
  • #56
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They went on a wretched run right into the playoffs and being blunt, got lucky against both us and Sheff Utd.
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They were lucky against both us and Sheff Utd but they played tournament football which wins play-offs.
 

ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:39 PM
  • #57
3 questions for Lampard

1. Why take of Esse for Sakamoto and BTA for Eccles? Sakamoto for BTA fine with Esse at 10 amd Sakamoto on the right makes sense. Eccles in the 10 role doesn't.
2. Why take off Haji when he is playing well? Felt like a scripted sub
3. Why don't we vary the formation to 442 or 532 in games when we are struggling to create chances?


It's not all on Frank at all as Kitching has to do better defensively and so does EMC and Eccles with their headers and it's a different outcome. I just looked at the form table and last 6 games we are 16th.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Yesterday at 10:44 PM
  • #58
To all the I'm done with football posts, because of tonight........really? Frustrating yes. But it's one game out of hundreds following City (more like thousands). As chumbawotshisface said 'I get knocked down....' PUSB and feck anyone who says otherwise.
 
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skybluebristol

Active Member
  • Yesterday at 10:44 PM
  • #59
I will literally fly to Japan and buy a sword if this persists…..
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:44 PM
  • #60
Sky Blue Harry H said:
To all the I'm done with football posts, because of tonight........really? Frustrating yes. But it's one game out of hundreds following City (more like thousands). As chumbawotshisface said 'I get knocked down....' PUSB and feck anyone who says otherwise.
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Most have said if we bottle this lead in the league they are done with it. not tonight.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 10:46 PM
  • #61
ccfc1234 said:
3 questions for Lampard

1. Why take of Esse for Sakamoto and BTA for Eccles? Sakamoto for BTA fine with Esse at 10 amd Sakamoto on the right makes sense. Eccles in the 10 role doesn't.
2. Why take off Haji when he is playing well? Felt like a scripted sub
3. Why don't we vary the formation to 442 or 532 in games when we are struggling to create chances?


It's not all on Frank at all as Kitching has to do better defensively and so does EMC and Eccles with their headers and it's a different outcome. I just looked at the form table and last 6 games we are 16th.
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Eccles has played in the 10 plenty and we’ve generally done well

Haji was playing ok, don’t think he was anything special thoug

442 wouldn’t have helped, the main issue was absolutely no control in midfield. And obviously he’s not going to bring on a CB when chasing the game.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:46 PM
  • #62
I've praised Lampard recently for his pragmatism, he really needs to show it again now. Setting up like that away from home against an in form side was suicidal.

That said...
Let's not get carried away & throw the baby out with the bathwater. It only needs tweaks & ideally another incoming to strengthen.
 

skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 10:48 PM
  • #63
This thread is annoying me already btw, incredibly small club bitter mentality to be worried about this “being the new sutton” when we’re still top of the league with miles of the season to go.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:50 PM
  • #64
skybluecam said:
This thread is annoying me already btw, incredibly small club bitter mentality to be worried about this “being the new sutton” when we’re still top of the league with miles of the season to go.
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Well the way we are going we wont be top long.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 10:52 PM
  • #65
People are talking about losing faith in the manager, sub-20,000 crowds next season, being done with football etc…..when we’re eight points clear of third?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:52 PM
  • #66
SBT said:
People are talking about losing faith in the manager, sub-20,000 crowds next season, being done with football etc…..when we’re eight points clear of third?
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Look at the form we are on ffs
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 PM
  • #67
Ccfcisparks said:
Most have said if we bottle this lead in the league they are done with it. not tonight.
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Same reply. The same who take that stance will be the first to jump ship if we were struggling at the bottom next season.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 10:59 PM
  • #68
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Same reply. The same who take that stance will be the first to jump ship if we were struggling at the bottom next season.
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I can understand it. It would be totally sickening to be the biggest championship bottlers of all time.
 

Matt smith

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  • Yesterday at 10:59 PM
  • #69
SBT said:
People are talking about losing faith in the manager, sub-20,000 crowds next season, being done with football etc…..when we’re eight points clear of third?
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Get a fucking grip wake up and smell the coffee
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Yesterday at 11:02 PM
  • #70
Gint11 said:
Norwich at Boro. Big difference
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Think Norwich could beat Ipswich at theirs.vut if we dont pick up points ourseleves its pointless
 
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