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Grendel

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Bugsy

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You are only Christian if you go to church.

Christians do not swear also.

Yeah ok then 😂

To become a Christian, one must first accept the love of God and confess their sins. This acceptance is a personal decision that involves recognizing the need for a Savior and trusting in Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior. The journey of becoming a Christian is marked by faith, repentance, and a commitment to live out one's faith in daily life. It is not about attending church regularly or following certain traditions, but about having a personal relationship with God and reflecting His character in one's actions and words
Amen.
 

Ccfcisparks

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Yeah ok then 😂

To become a Christian, one must first accept the love of God and confess their sins. This acceptance is a personal decision that involves recognizing the need for a Savior and trusting in Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior. The journey of becoming a Christian is marked by faith, repentance, and a commitment to live out one's faith in daily life. It is not about attending church regularly or following certain traditions, but about having a personal relationship with God and reflecting His character in one's actions and words
Amen.
Do you pray and have you read the bible
 

Bugsy

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Sky Blue Pete

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Saying "we used to do it" when somebody points out something a country still does, is defending / deflecting from it.

As for not being well, not sure what to make of that from somebody who wants to be friends with child sex offenders. You after a career in politics?
We are there again
No it doesn’t
It’s to encourage us to recognise that Iran in the 70’s was a similar place to the uk but it’s not been long since we imprisoned and forced sterilisation on homosexuals leading to many suicides
It’s just to encourage humility rather than arrogance that’s all
 

Grendel

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Nick

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We are there again
No it doesn’t
It’s to encourage us to recognise that Iran in the 70’s was a similar place to the uk but it’s not been long since we imprisoned and forced sterilisation on homosexuals leading to many suicides
It’s just to encourage humility rather than arrogance that’s all

Is it arrogant to point out that another country does that? I think it's more that some seem reluctant to accept it because it means their fight for the causes end up confused.
 

SBT

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It’s from the national census. What’s the sample size on this?
The census data also shows that the percentage of the population identifying as Christian is collapsing, and the number of people identifying as having no religion is surging even faster.

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Would not be surprising at all if ‘No religion’ is the largest single group at the next census.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Is it arrogant to point out that another country does that? I think it's more that some seem reluctant to accept it because it means their fight for the causes end up confused.
You think people are unaware that Iran murdered its citizens for protesting about its government?

To be fair when jd Vance says stupid stuff about how the uk is anti democratic you maybe have a point and simplicity is the answer

Iran is not democratic
Iran brutally represses disagreement
Iran has a Islamic cleric leading the country who’s opinions on women is abhorrent and leads to subjugating them and not allowing education

However there are more governments that are not democratic than democratic

And we are left with what makes Iran any different and the answer is penalty oil as most of the wars in the Middle East

You can argue the toss that they fund terrorism but we all know you cannot bomb an idea into non existence

Iran was not a danger to the USA fundamentally this is illegal.

We’ll see what happens but the end doesn’t justify the means it’s mad
 

Sick Boy

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Yeah ok then 😂

To become a Christian, one must first accept the love of God and confess their sins. This acceptance is a personal decision that involves recognizing the need for a Savior and trusting in Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior. The journey of becoming a Christian is marked by faith, repentance, and a commitment to live out one's faith in daily life. It is not about attending church regularly or following certain traditions, but about having a personal relationship with God and reflecting His character in one's actions and words
Amen.
Bit weird to copy and paste this crap from a spiritual warfare FB group.
 

Bugsy

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Bit weird to copy and paste this crap from a spiritual warfare FB group.

I actually didn't as I dont use Facebook, I got it from Christianity.org website if you must know.

Why are you questioning my faith for.
Do you question other people's faith also?

I'm not sure what The Bible says about driving to Coombe Abbey to confront a poster on a football forum either.

What the fuck as that got to with my faith if I want to offer some one out I will.
That's my personal choice.
 

PVA

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Seems the US have really fucked this up. Not surprising given who is in charge of course, but it's an absolute mess.
 

PVA

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What’s that in response to pva?

They don’t seem to have any plan whatsoever.

Well, the plan was to kill Khamenei, bomb Iran for a few days and then regime change would magically occur. But that hasn’t happened (yet) and now they don’t seem to have any clear objective or plan.

So now they’re resorting to arming Kurds and trying to get them to carry out a ground invasion into Iran.

There are widespread bombings throughout the Middle East.

Gas and oil prices have surged, stock markets have tumbled. Global supply chain is disrupted (Strait of Hormuz closed).

They’re telling their citizens to leave the Middle East but are offering no assistance to help them.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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What the fuck as that got to with my faith if I want to offer some one out I will.
That's my personal choice.
So you've decided to ignore the 'turn the other cheek' message.

I do so enjoy it when people of faith decide that scripture is something they can pick and choose the bits they want to follow.
 

chiefdave

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I've been doing some research. Iran pre 1979 was an entirely different place. Interesting read.

Think I've read that before, or something similar. Its interesting stuff and a perfect illustration that its far more nuanced than some people would like you to believe.

I suspect for a lot of us if we think of the Islamic Revolution we don't think of things such as it leading to an increased number of women attending university or women staging pro-hijab rallies.

In the light of current events quite telling to see an article from 2019 state "The Americans and the British have a long history in Iran of attempting to both influence and take over oil in Iran, so this deep-rooted mistrust of the US and UK goes back a long way."

As ever there's no easy answers. The actions of the government in killing tens of thousands of protesters is abhorrent but why are the US, and almost inevitably at some point the UK, getting involved once again when we all know the track record with enforcing regime change in that region. What is the criteria for intervention? Its certainly not the safety of a countries general population as events in Palestine show.
 

Grendel

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So you've decided to ignore the 'turn the other cheek' message.

I do so enjoy it when people of faith decide that scripture is something they can pick and choose the bits they want to follow.

The scriptures and the Bible as I understand it are just a collection of thoughts of individual apostles when they went to various parts of the globe to spread Christianity.

There is no actual definition of faith other than a belief of an existence beyond death.

You talk total nonsense on this topic.
 

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