Israel - Palestinian Conflict (18 Viewers)

[Grendel]

I don’t know why anyone would care - she’s had an anti Israel stance for years so who cares

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

I don’t know why anyone would care - she’s had an anti Israel stance for years so who cares

Just an anti semite Jew hater

 

[mmttww]

Just an anti semite Jew hater

f*cking hell, this place is past saving.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

f*cking hell, this place is past saving.

Yeah because of people with opinions like yourself, used to it all being once sided till someone comes along with a difference of opinion. Missing kiss arses?

 

[mmttww]

Yeah because of people with opinions like yourself, used to it all being once sided till someone comes along with a difference of opinion. Missing kiss arses?

cool story, boosh.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

cool story, boosh.

Boosh haha, that’s my mate we’ve clarified this many a time…..that all you’ve got? So old and boring need some new disses

 

[Grendel]

f*cking hell, this place is past saving.

I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?

 

[Sick Boy]

Just an anti semite Jew hater

There are plenty of Jews opposed to what Israel’s doing. Conflating Israel with Jewish people is anti-semitic in itself.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?

No point in arguing with him, he just throws a big strop

 

[mmttww]

I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?

"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.

 

[Ian1779]

Just an anti semite Jew hater

Thought you were clever? Not every Israeli is Jewish.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Thought you were clever? Not every Israeli is Jewish.

Alright Ian1779, where did I say they were?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.

 

[skybluetony176]

There are plenty of Jews opposed to what Israel’s doing. Conflating Israel with Jewish people is anti-semitic in itself.

There’s been mass protests all over Israel this weekend. Israeli Jews protesting about the invasion and the plans to permanently occupy Gaza. Demanding an end to the invasion and a negotiated return of hostages. Clearly all “anti semite Jew haters”

'Not in our name': Israelis protest against Gaza war - but Netanyahu seems unmoved

Tyres were set alight and roads blocked as Israelis took their anger with the Gaza conflict onto the streets for what was called a "day of stoppage".

news.sky.com

 

[Ian1779]

Alright Ian1779, where did I say they were?

Grendel said that the novelist had an anti-Israel stance, you responded by calling her a antisemite Jew hater. You implied her dislike of Israel meant a dislike of Jews, thus conflating the two and being antisemitic yourself.

 

[Grendel]

"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.

Mr Putin was on the list in 2022 as well. Ed Sheeran and Snoop Dogg are in the latest list.

 

[mmttww]

Mr Putin was on the list in 2022 as well. Ed Sheeran and Snoop Dogg are in the latest list.

some random Russian bloke, a random ginge and a random red wine producer all getting some love from Time.

 

[Sick Boy]

Huge crowds gather in Israel calling for hostage deal and end to Gaza war

Large crowds fill 'Hostages Square' in Tel Aviv to call for fighting to cease and the release of all remaining hostages by Hamas.

www.bbc.com

 

[shmmeee]

"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.

“Starmer and co” in this situation of course being the British security services. Or do you guys literally think Starmer asked for this?

 

[SBT]

“Starmer and co” in this situation of course being the British security services. Or do you guys literally think Starmer asked for this?

I thought the Home Secretary was responsible for who goes on the proscribed list?

 

[shmmeee]

I thought the Home Secretary was responsible for who goes on the proscribed list?

In the government yes but she’s doesn’t just wake up one morning and decide FFS, she takes advice from security services. Yvette Cooper isn’t out there doing humint deep cover. The idea it was just “haha we hate the left” is more childish conspiratorial nonsense.

 

[SBT]

In the government yes but she’s doesn’t just wake up one morning and decide FFS, she takes advice from security services. Yvette Cooper isn’t out there doing humint deep cover. The idea it was just “haha we hate the left” is more childish conspiratorial nonsense.

Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.

 

[shmmeee]

Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.

Are you saying Jews control the govt?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Reminder of this from last month ...

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation

 

[SBT]

Are you saying Jews control the govt?

Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.

 

[Sick Boy]

Are you saying Jews control the govt?

That's......quite a stretch.

 

[Grendel]

Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.

They did take that advice though

"Palestine Action was proscribed based on strong security advice – following serious attacks the group has committed involving violence, significant injuries and extensive criminal damage," he said, adding: "Whilst many people may not yet know the reality of the organisation – those assessments are very clear."

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.

To be fair he just asks the question? And the answer is no

 

[shmmeee]

Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.

I’m not I’m just saying I think the UK security services are perfectly capable of not being overly influenced by Israelis. I’m sure lobbying happens, there’s no reason to suggest MI5 just chuck anyone in or that’s there’s not a process involved as you seem to be suggesting. By the time this sort of stuff comes across Polticians desks an awful lot of work has been done.

 

[shmmeee]

uwu we are smol bean protesters pls understand

 

[wingy]

uwu we are smol bean protesters pls understand

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Nothing at all then really,well nothing you wouldn't expect from a pub fracas on a Saturday night,more please if that's your limit?

 

[SBT]

To be fair he just asks the question? And the answer is no

When did you stop beating your wife Pete?

 

[SBT]

They did take that advice though

"Palestine Action was proscribed based on strong security advice – following serious attacks the group has committed involving violence, significant injuries and extensive criminal damage," he said, adding: "Whilst many people may not yet know the reality of the organisation – those assessments are very clear."

Do you think the government action in this case has been a success?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

D

When did you stop beating your wife Pete?

Dont get it

 

[Grendel]

Do you think the government action in this case has been a success?

What do you define as success?