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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 18, 2024
  • #3,151
At least the international community implicitly admit it is genocide



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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2024
  • #3,152
Disgusting trying to qualify that they can't be accused because they've been on the end of one!
 
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Como

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  • Jan 18, 2024
  • #3,153
Lest we forget:

Evidence points to systematic use of rape and sexual violence by Hamas in 7 October attacks

Guardian aware of sexual assaults for which multiple corroborating pieces of evidence exist
www.theguardian.com
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2024
  • #3,154
Como said:
Lest we forget:

Evidence points to systematic use of rape and sexual violence by Hamas in 7 October attacks

Guardian aware of sexual assaults for which multiple corroborating pieces of evidence exist
www.theguardian.com
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Two wrongs don’t make it right
 

Como

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2024
  • #3,155
Do not recollect Guardian covering the second wrong, will have a look.
 

duffer

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,156
Como said:
Do not recollect Guardian covering the second wrong, will have a look.
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I'll help. It's not that difficult.

The first wrong was Hamas crossing the border and killing around 1,400 people including women and children. They've still got around 100 hostages or so, it is believed.

The second wrong is the Israeli state killing over 20,000 people, including thousands of women and children, and in effect holding millions hostage.

Both these things have been fully reported in the Guardian and elsewhere, so either you're a bit daft or you're trying to make a point. Both are possible, I guess.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,157
Como said:
Do not recollect Guardian covering the second wrong, will have a look.
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What are you on about your utter tit. That article was graphic and balanced about the horror of the Hamas attack.
You appear to revel in violence, spilling of blood, hatred and division. As you must full well know, its a shit show all round from violent parties on both sides. Just the peaceful innocent people who are impacted the most. Carry on getting your information from GBNews though.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,158
And there you have it.

Netanyahu publicly rejects US push for Palestinian state

The Israeli PM's rejection of Washington's efforts shows the growing disagreement between the two allies.
www.bbc.co.uk

He won’t be happy until Israel fully occupies Palestinian.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,159
skybluetony176 said:
And there you have it.

Netanyahu publicly rejects US push for Palestinian state

The Israeli PM's rejection of Washington's efforts shows the growing disagreement between the two allies.
www.bbc.co.uk

He won’t be happy until Israel fully occupies Palestinian.
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Will probably help path the way to the west accepting the occupation of Ukraine too.

Eventually someone is going to have to grow a spine and start pointing out we need to draw a line somewhere.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,160
skybluetony176 said:
And there you have it.

Netanyahu publicly rejects US push for Palestinian state

The Israeli PM's rejection of Washington's efforts shows the growing disagreement between the two allies.
www.bbc.co.uk

He won’t be happy until Israel fully occupies Palestinian.
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What was all this bollocks about him saying that Israel would control the security within Gaza after the war is over? Unilaterally? In contravention of UN Security Council resolutions? I don't think so, pal!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,161
fernandopartridge said:
At least the international community implicitly admit it is genocide



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What utter fucking bollocks.

So now if you have a crime committed against you it's ok for you to commit that crime.

Surely if you've suffered that crime then of all people you should be wanting to ensure it doesn't happen again. I assume that under the same idea Japan could drop a nuclear weapon on the USA and that'd fine?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #3,162
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
What utter fucking bollocks.

So now if you have a crime committed against you it's ok for you to commit that crime.

Surely if you've suffered that crime then of all people you should be wanting to ensure it doesn't happen again. I assume that under the same idea Japan could drop a nuclear weapon on the USA and that'd fine?
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... or anywhere, seemingly!
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 22, 2024
  • #3,163
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,164
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead

Trying to imagine what the people in this video will be thinking today, or in a year from now
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,165
Fucking hell. The murderous bastards. There are few things that upset me in the news, but that has got me.
That is a war crime, NO two ways about it.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,166
fernandopartridge said:
At least the international community implicitly admit it is genocide



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Shared a flat with this guy for a year when he was finishing his PhD at Essex.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,167
That video is awful. Absolutely tragic.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,168
PVA said:
That video is awful. Absolutely tragic.
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The fucking cheek of the IDF to say it has been fabricated! Coonts!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #3,169
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 25, 2024
  • #3,170
fernandopartridge said:
At least the international community implicitly admit it is genocide



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What the hell?!
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2024
  • #3,171
The murderous zionists are even shelling humanitarian aid points now.........

Israel is a terror state. Utter scum.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jan 26, 2024
  • #3,172
International Court of Justice has issued its provisional ruling on the genocide case brought by South Africa. Of course, the IDF will simply ignore it and there is little anyone can do about it other than tut and shake their heads!

Here are the provisional measures the court has made:

  1. Israel must take all measures to prevent any acts that could be considered genocidal - killing members of a group, causing bodily harm, inflicting conditions designed to bring about the destruction of a group, preventing births
  2. Israel must ensure its military does not commit any genocidal acts
  3. Israel must prevent and punish any public comments that could be considered incitement to commit genocide in Gaza
  4. Israel must take measures to ensure humanitarian access
  5. Israel must prevent any destruction of evidence that could be used in a genocide case
  6. Israel must submit a report to the court within one month of this order being given
The court also expressed grave concern about the fate of hostages being held by Hamas and called for their immediate release.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 26, 2024
  • #3,173
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
International Court of Justice has issued its provisional ruling on the genocide case brought by South Africa. Of course, the IDF will simply ignore it and there is little anyone can do about it other than tut and shake their heads!

Here are the provisional measures the court has made:

  1. Israel must take all measures to prevent any acts that could be considered genocidal - killing members of a group, causing bodily harm, inflicting conditions designed to bring about the destruction of a group, preventing births
  2. Israel must ensure its military does not commit any genocidal acts
  3. Israel must prevent and punish any public comments that could be considered incitement to commit genocide in Gaza
  4. Israel must take measures to ensure humanitarian access
  5. Israel must prevent any destruction of evidence that could be used in a genocide case
  6. Israel must submit a report to the court within one month of this order being given
The court also expressed grave concern about the fate of hostages being held by Hamas and called for their immediate release.
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There is plenty the West could do about it if they wanted to but shamefully we are still giving the green light to Israel. We are so on the wrong side of history and have lost any moral authority to criticise Russia's actions in Ukraine.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jan 26, 2024
  • #3,174
Deleted member 9744 said:
There is plenty the West could do about it if they wanted to but shamefully we are still giving the green light to Israel. We are so on the wrong side of history and have lost any moral authority to criticise Russia's actions in Ukraine.
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The ICJ's rulings are binding but there is no mechanism for them to be enforced, apparently.

It's a bit like the French passing a law saying that you have to carry breathalysers in your car but never actually enforcing it! I won't bother carrying any then!
 
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Como

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  • Jan 27, 2024
  • #3,175
UN agency investigates staff suspected of role in 7 October attack on Israel
UN agency for Palestinian refugees commissioner general says staff will be held accountable as US pauses funding to UNRWA

UN agency investigates staff suspected of role in 7 October attack on Israel

About time, this was known about back in October. Why are the UN employing Hamas operatives?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2024
  • #3,176
Como said:
UN agency investigates staff suspected of role in 7 October attack on Israel
UN agency for Palestinian refugees commissioner general says staff will be held accountable as US pauses funding to UNRWA

UN agency investigates staff suspected of role in 7 October attack on Israel

About time, this was known about back in October. Why are the UN employing Hamas operatives?
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You've been cheering on genocide mate, your 'look over there' tactics aren't going to work.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jan 28, 2024
  • #3,177
I've never fully understood the Israel - Palestine conflict and this is my first post on this thread but I have to say what Israel have done in response to Hamas is truly terrible, irrespective of what Hamas did in the first place.
I liken it to this :
Someone in your street kills a member of your household. You don't know who did it but you know someone in the street is harbouring them. So you decide to kill every single individual who lives in your street because at least you know you are guaranteed to kill the murderer. So you end up wiping out hundreds.

I've known of some terrible wars since vaguely remembering Vietnam as a kid. This war is shocking beyond belief. It will spawn a new generation of terrorists against Israel for the next 50 years who will never forgive them for killing so many innocent people.
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 28, 2024
  • #3,178
We should have nothing to do with the Middle East. Stay within our own borders and ensure security at home
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 29, 2024
  • #3,179
Macca said:
We should have nothing to do with the Middle East. Stay within our own borders and ensure security at home
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We shouldn’t have and now the situation is worsening with US on a crash course to another conflict with Iran
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 29, 2024
  • #3,180
Macca said:
We should have nothing to do with the Middle East. Stay within our own borders and ensure security at home
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We’re paying the price of Empire and unfortunately security at home is linked to the Middle East and Gulf states. Although I would agree that getting involved in 2 Gulf wars are probably the biggest mistake that the UK has made in modern history and did nothing for security at home, the opposite if anything is true. The 2nd Gulf war especially, like most of the UK I’d like to see Blair in The Hague.
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 29, 2024
  • #3,181
skybluetony176 said:
We’re paying the price of Empire and unfortunately security at home is linked to the Middle East and Gulf states. Although I would agree that getting involved in 2 Gulf wars are probably the biggest mistake that the UK has made in modern history and did nothing for security at home, the opposite if anything is true. The 2nd Gulf war especially, like most of the UK I’d like to see Blair in The Hague.
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That and the fact that it is a melting pot of bat shit crazy religious extremists.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 30, 2024
  • #3,182
More war crimes:

Israeli forces kill three Palestinian fighters in West Bank hospital raid

CCTV captures undercover forces disguised as medics and nurses in the hospital with weapons raised.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2024
  • #3,183
PVA said:
More war crimes:

Israeli forces kill three Palestinian fighters in West Bank hospital raid

CCTV captures undercover forces disguised as medics and nurses in the hospital with weapons raised.
www.bbc.co.uk
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CCTV footage showed members of an undercover unit disguised as medics and other civilians making their way through a corridor with rifles raised.
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Is this not exactly what they have accused the Palestinians of doing and used as an excuse for bombing hospitals and all sorts of civilian buildings?
 

CovInEssex

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2024
  • #3,184
PVA said:
More war crimes:

Israeli forces kill three Palestinian fighters in West Bank hospital raid

CCTV captures undercover forces disguised as medics and nurses in the hospital with weapons raised.
www.bbc.co.uk
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It wasn't a wild assault. It's a coordinated assassination. One one was a top commander or something.

Make no doubt about it, the world is a better place now those 3 people are dead.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 30, 2024
  • #3,185
chiefdave said:
Is this not exactly what they have accused the Palestinians of doing and used as an excuse for bombing hospitals and all sorts of civilian buildings?
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Yes pretty much I think!
 
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