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Israel - Palestinian Conflict (10 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,136
Evo1883 said:
Not at all , and not what I said either
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Really?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,137
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Really?
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Did I say , I want Israel to bomb gaza to pieces and kill thousands upon thousands of civilians ??

And did I say I wanted gaza swallowed up into Israel.

Are you really starting a row at 10:40 at night

I want Israel to destroy hamas sure , but not like this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,138
Evo1883 said:
Did I say , I want Israel to bomb gaza to pieces and kill thousands upon thousands of civilians ??

And did I say I wanted gaza swallowed up into Israel.

Are you really starting a row at 10:40 at night

I want Israel to destroy hamas sure , but not like this
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What other way was there going to be? You went as far as to say that they hide among civilians so what else was Israel meant to do. Well they're doing it and now it's going too far-but the truth is they have viewed civilian life as expendable there from the start.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,139
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What other way was there going to be? You went as far as to say that they hide among civilians so what else was Israel meant to do. Well they're doing it and now it's going too far-but the truth is they have viewed civilian life as expendable there from the start.
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So we've established that I never wanted thousands of civilians to die , stating civilians will die in conflict doesn't mean I want them to die ... what's happening now is pretty bad stuff

I just looked through all my posts on this and can't see where I said I wanted isreal to kill thousands of civilians , so il leave that there
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,140
Evo1883 said:
So we've established that I never wanted thousands of civilians to die , stating civilians will die in conflict doesn't mean I want them to die ... what's happening now is pretty bad stuff
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It is indeed. But they've been doing it for years and years and were also busy murdering people in the West Bank where Hamas have no control whatsoever.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,141
I'm actually pretty shocked that the so called cleaner than clean western super powers are allowing this to happen totally unopposed.

America should never be taken seriously again ever, or us for that matter
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 28, 2023
  • #2,142
Evo1883 said:
I'm actually pretty shocked that the so called cleaner than clean western super powers are allowing this to happen totally unopposed.

America should never be taken seriously again ever, or us for that matter
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This is what the Arabs have been saying for a while. Human rights and all that’s great for thee but not for me. Hard to argue when you see this tbh
 
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Como

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,143
I suppose a few Palestinians may be Arabs but most are not.

Still seen no practical move from the UN.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,144
Israel should be a global leper....they're no better than Russia.
Murderous land thieving genocidal cunts.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,145
Evo1883 said:
Did I say , I want Israel to bomb gaza to pieces and kill thousands upon thousands of civilians ??
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You were quite happy to dismiss most Palestinians as Hamas supporters a few days ago - the very same rhetoric that has been used to justify the current Israeli campaign.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,146
SBT said:
You were quite happy to dismiss most Palestinians as Hamas supporters a few days ago - the very same rhetoric that has been used to justify the current Israeli campaign.
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Again, not the same as suggesting they kill all civilians.

Forum loves twisting words
 

tisza

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,147
Como said:
I suppose a few Palestinians may be Arabs but most are not.

Still seen no practical move from the UN.
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Hands largely tied by the structure of the security council with its vetoes. Same as they've been unable to do anything significant about the Ukraine situation. UN has no real power against larger nations - more a gigantic discussion forum.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,148
Evo1883 said:
Again, not the same as suggesting they kill all civilians.

Forum loves twisting words
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I didn’t say it was - I said it was that kind of mentality that’s being used to justify the killing of civilians.

The desire to see this conflict as everyone needing to pick “a side” and stick with it has had disastrous consequences.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,149
SBT said:
I didn’t say it was - I said it was that kind of mentality that’s being used to justify the killing of civilians.

The desire to see this conflict as everyone needing to pick “a side” and stick with it has had disastrous consequences.
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Ok
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,150
Como said:
I suppose a few Palestinians may be Arabs but most are not.

Still seen no practical move from the UN.
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Ok. But I was talking about Arabs, not Palestinians.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,151
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Israel should be a global leper....they're no better than Russia.
Murderous land thieving genocidal cunts.
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At this stage it’s pretty obvious what’s going on. Bizarrely Ukraine seems to have aligned themselves to them as well.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,152
Evo1883 said:
I'm actually pretty shocked that the so called cleaner than clean western super powers are allowing this to happen totally unopposed.

America should never be taken seriously again ever, or us for that matter
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This sort of thing is ideal for Putin as well in highlighting western hypocrisy to other countries.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,153
Sick Boy said:
At this stage it’s pretty obvious what’s going on. Bizarrely Ukraine seems to have aligned themselves to them as well.
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Not bizarre, they can hardly contradict the American stance
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,154
Sick Boy said:
This sort of thing is ideal for Putin as well in highlighting western hypocrisy to other countries as well.
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Correct. Sweet for Putin

....and China.

Rush by west to back Israel erodes developing countries’ support for Ukraine

Diplomats warn backing for Israeli assault on Gaza has poisoned efforts to build consensus against Russia’s war
www.ft.com
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,155
Sick Boy said:
At this stage it’s pretty obvious what’s going on. Bizarrely Ukraine seems to have aligned themselves to them as well.
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Not really. Russia and Hamas are allies.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 29, 2023
  • #2,156
Sick Boy said:
At this stage it’s pretty obvious what’s going on. Bizarrely Ukraine seems to have aligned themselves to them as well.
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Not biazarre. Ukraine rely on the US and the US are tying Israel and Ukraine aid together.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,157
The scenes from that airport in Dagestan are truly chilling, apocalyptic stuff.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,158
SBT said:
The scenes from that airport in Dagestan are truly chilling, apocalyptic stuff.
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It’s the ultimate downside of not saying no to people isn’t it

Humans always seem to push boundaries as far as they can and we assume adults will just say ok that’s far enough but they don’t hence crime and punishment
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,159
Como said:
I suppose a few Palestinians may be Arabs but most are not.

Still seen no practical move from the UN.
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Am I missing something here? I thought most Palestinians were ethnically and linguistically Arab?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,160

How much validity does this have?
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,161
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Murderous land thieving genocidal cunts.
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That statement could be applied to pretty much any country these days. We're hardly whiter than white are we.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,162
Nick said:

How much validity does this have?
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It's David Collier, he's akin to a Jewish Abu Hamza

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,163

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,164
Nick said:

How much validity does this have?
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Going by my own, somewhat limited, evidence I’d say that’s a pretty unfair statement. I didn’t attend, but I did pass through the protest en route to going somewhere else. Chants and placards about ceasefires everywhere. Family members and friends who attended all said the same.

Braverman has described them as “hate marches” attended by tens of thousands of people, which is completely absurd.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,165
Nick said:

How much validity does this have?
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None and it’s really unhelpful
Friends have been and of course there’s some idiots there always is when you get 300,000 but was good natured including Muslims Christians Jews and other faiths and none
Police don’t offer suffer fools gladly on demos I’ve been on for there to be so few arrests suggests that they’ve been managed well
Course you’ll get the gammons saying the police are pussies and they don’t know what they’re doing or the chief constable doesn’t know the law and the junior ministers do but generally get hundreds of thousands of people together and you’ll have arrests and there’s not been many
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,166
SBT said:
Going by my own, somewhat limited, evidence I’d say that’s a pretty unfair statement. I didn’t attend, but I did pass through the protest en route to going somewhere else. Chants and placards about ceasefires everywhere. Family members and friends who attended all said the same.

Braverman has described them as “hate marches” attended by tens of thousands of people, which is completely absurd.
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Braverman’s fucking moron.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,167
Israel has ruled out any possibility of a ceasefire.
 

Como

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,168
That German girl who was at the music festival whose body was being paraded around has been confirmed dead by the BBC.

BBC said they had yet to find her body so it sounds like they just found her head?
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,169
fatso said:
That statement could be applied to pretty much any country these days. We're hardly whiter than white are we.
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True enough....but currently theres only one nation that has effectively kettled a civilian population of another nation into a corner, where they bomb and starve them, whilst rolling tanks attempt fo steal the northern half of their already diminished and occupied territory....

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fatso

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #2,170
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
True enough....but currently theres only one nation that has effectively kettled a civilian population of another nation into a corner, where they bomb and starve them, whilst rolling tanks attempt fo steal the northern half of their already diminished and occupied territory....

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Is that Russia in Ukrain?

Or give it a couple of weeks it could well be the USA in Iran.

It feels like the world is teetering on the edge of a global war. Could the Israeli conflict be the catalyst for a wider escalation?

Given the massing of military hardware in and around the Med, it wouldn't take much for a full scale attack in the area.
 
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