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chiefdave

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,986
Ccfcisparks said:
May be over thinking it but why are they calling the Israeli captives hostages and the palestinian hostages prisoners?
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Some of Palestinians technically are prisoners, even if the process that led to that is somewhat dubious to say the least. However there are thousands of people taken by Israel who have never been charged with anything let alone been on trial and found guilty. No idea why they are referred to as detainees yet on the other side its hostages.

Been the story throughout the entire war really. Very obvious different use of language. When figures on Palestinian deaths are given you always get 'Hamas run health ministry' or similar, nothing equivalent when its Israeli deaths.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,987
SomersetSB said:
I bet the lefties are hating this, where are you Biden and Harris, Corbyn , and our little starmer in the background bless him Cnut!!
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Biden is receiving treatment for aggressive cancer.

Not sure why Harris would be involved really, not sure she holds any official role current. Same with Corbyn, not sure what you're expecting from him past his statement welcoming the ceasefire.

Starmer is in Egypt at the Gaza peace summit being made to look an idiot by Trump
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,988
chiefdave said:
Great to see the Israeli hostages appear to have been well looked after and look in good health.
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wingy

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,989
chiefdave said:
Biden is receiving treatment for aggressive cancer.

Not sure why Harris would be involved really, not sure she holds any official role current. Same with Corbyn, not sure what you're expecting from him past his statement welcoming the ceasefire.

Starmer is in Egypt at the Gaza peace summit being made to look an idiot by Trump
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Plot's at home I'm sure he'll be desperate to get away.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,990
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,991
fernandopartridge said:
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He does say "come here" to be fair.

But very embarrassing for Starmer after that.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,992
Otis said:
He does say "come here" to be fair.

But very embarrassing for Starmer after that.
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Starmer an obsequious weasel, I think even somebody like Dom would conduct themselves with a bit more dignity in the presence of Trump.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,993
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,994
chiefdave said:
Some of Palestinians technically are prisoners, even if the process that led to that is somewhat dubious to say the least. However there are thousands of people taken by Israel who have never been charged with anything let alone been on trial and found guilty. No idea why they are referred to as detainees yet on the other side its hostages.

Been the story throughout the entire war really. Very obvious different use of language. When figures on Palestinian deaths are given you always get 'Hamas run health ministry' or similar, nothing equivalent when its Israeli deaths.
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Whilst I understand, if not even agree with your perception of a differing in language when describing Israeli/Palestine actions, I think the example you have given could be seen differently. Israel, however unpalatable to some they may be, are run by a democratically elected government with recognised institutions and legal processes , whereas Gaza is ran by a proscribed terrorist organisation. I would say, with journalist integrity in mind, it's understandable why the BBC, as an example, would contextualise the source of the quoted death figures as a means of transparency, I don't think it's an attempt to discredit those figures.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,995
fernandopartridge said:
Starmer an obsequious weasel, I think even somebody like Dom would conduct themselves with a bit more dignity in the presence of Trump.
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You are obsessed with me you small bloke, mention me in every post it’s odd
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,996
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You are obsessed with me you small bloke, mention me in every post it’s odd
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I'm surprised you reply so much, on here all the time replying
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,997
fernandopartridge said:
I'm surprised you reply so much, on here all the time replying
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The typical keyboard warrior response, constantly saying someone’s name and not expecting a response…..very strange behaviour
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,998
SkyBlueDom26 said:
The typical keyboard warrior response, constantly saying someone’s name and not expecting a response…..very strange behaviour
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Are you an obsequious weasel?
 
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mmttww

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #5,999
fernandopartridge said:
Are you an obsequious weasel?
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Had to Google 'obsequious' - hoped it meant a weasel that had special powers. Turns out, not so much.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 13, 2025
  • #6,000
Great scenes we are seeing this evening on the news. Looks like the war is finally over, or at least, coming to a close.

Say what you want about Trump, but no other world leader has managed this. It's a great achievement and no wonder other presidents/prime ministers are falling over themselves trying to get some credit in the press conferences.

Hopefully Russia/Ukraine next...
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,001
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Great scenes we are seeing this evening on the news. Looks like the war is finally over, or at least, coming to a close.

Say what you want about Trump, but no other world leader has managed this. It's a great achievement and no wonder other presidents/prime ministers are falling over themselves trying to get some credit in the press conferences.

Hopefully Russia/Ukraine next...
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We can but hope.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,002
Otis said:
We can but hope.
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Things like this make me think its just a matter of time before Israel finds an excuse to start again

 
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SBT

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,003
I didn’t realise quite how dystopian those Israeli warnings to the families in the West Bank were

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,004
SBT said:
I didn’t realise quite how dystopian those Israeli warnings to the families in the West Bank were

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Deserves at least 3 Nobel prizes imo
 
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SBAndy

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,005
There are (as far as I can tell, unverified) reports circulating that Israel have conducted drone strikes on Gaza.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,006
SBAndy said:
There are (as far as I can tell, unverified) reports circulating that Israel have conducted drone strikes on Gaza.
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But that's fine now isn't it, now the war's over.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,007
SBAndy said:
There are (as far as I can tell, unverified) reports circulating that Israel have conducted drone strikes on Gaza.
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Not even made it a week and there's reports, including places like Sky News, that the IDF have used drones to kill 3 Palestinian civilians in Shujaiyya and a separate attack in Al-Shuja’iyya, appears to have killed 5 more.
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,008
He was on Talksport and Good Morning Britain yesterday, great to see him looking so well.
 
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Dougin

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,009
Love how Trump made all the haters look like total fools.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,010
rob9872 said:
He was on Talksport and Good Morning Britain yesterday, great to see him looking so well.
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Are they all clear now to play in European and FIFA completions,phewee that was a close run thing!
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,011
wingy said:
Are they all clear now to play in European and FIFA completions,phewee that was a close run thing!
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Tbh I thought they'd just play neutral grounds as per Ukraine did (although a bigger argument from me would be that they shouldn't be part of UEFA as it's not really in Europe anyway).
 
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Super Frank

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,012
Got a feeling this peace deal doesn’t last.

Hope im wrong.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,013
Super Frank said:
Got a feeling this peace deal doesn’t last.

Hope im wrong.
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The last couple didn’t
 

Otis

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,014
Dougin said:
Love how Trump made all the haters look like total fools.
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We're not there yet in terms of peace.

Could still go all pear shaped.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,015
‘If they don’t disarm we will disarm them’ that’s how a proper leader speaks! No doubt the Hamas supporters on here will be fuming with his comments
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,016
fernandopartridge said:
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,017
SkyBlueDom26 said:
‘If they don’t disarm we will disarm them’ that’s how a proper leader speaks! No doubt the Hamas supporters on here will be fuming with his comments
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And it’s right to take him at his word dom
When has he ever let anyone down
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,018
chiefdave said:
Not even made it a week and there's reports, including places like Sky News, that the IDF have used drones to kill 3 Palestinian civilians in Shujaiyya and a separate attack in Al-Shuja’iyya, appears to have killed 5 more.
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It's a terrorist state founded by terrorists
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,019
SkyBlueDom26 said:
‘If they don’t disarm we will disarm them’ that’s how a proper leader speaks! No doubt the Hamas supporters on here will be fuming with his comments
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Seems a strange comment for him to make when Hamas have indicated a willingness to disarm and transition 'power' to the Palestinian Authority. Even more so given that negotiations around what shape that disarmament takes haven't even begun.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2025
  • #6,020
SkyBlueDom26 said:
‘If they don’t disarm we will disarm them’ that’s how a proper leader speaks! No doubt the Hamas supporters on here will be fuming with his comments
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I agree actually, it's a great step forward. Could slaughter 100,000 Gazans by Christmas! What a present for Bibi
 
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