Israel - Palestinian Conflict (8 Viewers)

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:27:50+0100

Sky Blue Pete said:
D

Dont get it

For a journalist not to get the difference is quite something but he’s likening my hyperbolic interpretation of his answer that theUK govt bans groups because Israeli lobbyists tell them to as Jews controlling the govt to a leading question like “when did you stop beating your wife” which is a problem because it assumes he was beating his wife and any answer affirms that.

Two entirely different types of journalistic bad practice. Mine was more sensationalism than leading.

wingy · 2025-08-18T12:28:48+0100

Are they more terrorist for instance in the case of the Manchester airport family in terms of violence, I think not TBF!

SBT · 2025-08-18T12:30:22+0100

Grendel said:
What do you define as success?

The government’s own definition is here:

How does proscription help disrupt terrorism?
In addition to the proscription offences, proscription can support other disruptive activity including the use of immigration powers such as exclusion, prosecution for other offences, encouraging removal of on-line material, messaging and EU asset freezes. The resources of a proscribed organisation are terrorist property and are, therefore, liable to be seized.

Have they disrupted Palestine Action’s messaging? Have we stopped Palestine Action rhetoric being shared online?

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:30:46+0100

wingy said:
Are they more terrorist for instance in the case of the Manchester airport family in terms of violence, I think not TBF!

Yes. Terrorism is about trying to change govt policy through property damage or violence.

The groups outside hotels however…

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:31:40+0100

SBT said:
The government’s own definition is here:

Have they disrupted Palestine Action’s messaging? Have we stopped Palestine Action rhetoric being shared online?

SBT · 2025-08-18T12:32:35+0100

shmmeee said:
For a journalist not to get the difference is quite something but he’s likening my hyperbolic interpretation of his answer that theUK govt bans groups because Israeli lobbyists tell them to as Jews controlling the govt to a leading question like “when did you stop beating your wife” which is a problem because it assumes he was beating his wife and any answer affirms that.

Two entirely different types of journalistic bad practice. Mine was more sensationalism than leading.

Your question was quite clearly intended to suggest that I believe in anti-semitic tropes about Jews controlling the government. Frankly it’s the kind of rhetorical device I’d expect from SkyBlueDom26.

SBT · 2025-08-18T12:33:33+0100

shmmeee said:
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Wow - and we never heard about Palestine Action again.

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:34:24+0100

SBT said:
Your question was quite clearly intended to suggest that I believe in anti-semitic tropes about Jews controlling the government. Frankly it’s the kind of rhetorical device I’d expect from SkyBlueDom26.

How else would you interpret the idea that the UK govt is taking action purely because of Israeli lobbying and disregarding all usual processes?

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:35:20+0100

SBT said:
Wow - and we never heard about Palestine Action again.

“Can be used to disrupt” being an exact synonym for “completely eradicate”

SBT · 2025-08-18T12:36:58+0100

shmmeee said:
How else would you interpret the idea that the UK govt is taking action purely because of Israeli lobbying and disregarding all usual processes?

I’m sorry, was that what I said?

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T12:37:51+0100

SBT said:
I’m sorry, was that what I said?

So you accept that PA were highlighted by our security services presumably working in good faith and it’s not in fact a plot by Kid Starver to hurt Magic Grandpa?

SBT · 2025-08-18T12:44:44+0100

shmmeee said:
So you accept that PA were highlighted by our security services presumably working in good faith and it’s not in fact a plot by Kid Starver to hurt Magic Grandpa?

Do you want to answer my question first and we can deal with your BlueSky buzzword nonsense afterwards?

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T12:59:45+0100

Sick Boy said:
That's......quite a stretch.

The super moderator on this forum trying to be a smart arse and being antic semetic, how is this allowed? @Nick

Ian1779 · 2025-08-18T13:00:31+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The super moderator on this forum trying to be a smart arse and being antic semetic, how is this allowed? @Nick

You need to actually understand what being antisemitic is first.

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:02:40+0100

Ian1779 said:
You need to actually understand what being antisemitic is first.

He knew what he was doing, it will be ignored though because there is an agenda on this forum

Sick Boy · 2025-08-18T13:04:56+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The super moderator on this forum trying to be a smart arse and being antic semetic, how is this allowed? @Nick

The only person on here who's actually been antisemitic is you.

SBT · 2025-08-18T13:06:59+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The super moderator on this forum trying to be a smart arse and being antic semetic, how is this allowed? @Nick

Here you go @shmmeee, the intellectual heavyweights are here to back up your argument

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:07:23+0100

Sick Boy said:
The only person on here who's actually been antisemitic is you.

Great answer to that offensive behaviour, try and spin it yet I’m always sticking up for them. You should be embarrassed with that post, especially as a super moderator…..doesn’t look good on the forum with sarcastic smart arse comments

Sick Boy · 2025-08-18T13:11:01+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Great answer to that offensive behaviour, try and spin it yet I’m always sticking up for them. You should be embarrassed with that post, especially as a super moderator

You're always sticking up for @shmmeee ?

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:12:09+0100

Sick Boy said:
You're always sticking up for @shmmeee ?

You made a comment being antic semetic, get a fucking grip you offensive clown. Is it only alright if it fits an agenda yeah??

mmttww · 2025-08-18T13:13:41+0100

Dom: you're all losers, on here all the time.
Dom: replies to your post in less than two mins.
Dom: I always stick up for persecuted people.
Dom: posts with bad spelling and mean words.

starting to think the Donald is actually on here.

Sick Boy · 2025-08-18T13:13:43+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
You made a comment being antic semetic, get a fucking grip you offensive clown. Is it only alright if it fits an agenda yeah??

What? Where? The only person who's been antisemitic on here in the last 24 hours is you.

Grendel · 2025-08-18T13:17:08+0100

shmmeee said:
So you accept that PA were highlighted by our security services presumably working in good faith and it’s not in fact a plot by Kid Starver to hurt Magic Grandpa?

Someone else said you are rapidly turning into MMM on here

Everyone - well other than Pete and PVA - are getting pretty bored with the nonsense to be honest

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:17:45+0100

Sick Boy said:
What? Where? The only person who's been antisemitic on here in the last 24 hours is you.

Not even worth the time of day arguing, biggest hypocrite on here

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:20:47+0100

mmttww said:
Dom: you're all losers, on here all the time.
Dom: replies to your post in less than two mins.
Dom: I always stick up for persecuted people.
Dom: posts with bad spelling and mean words.

starting to think the Donald is actually on here.

I wouldn’t want to prove you wrong, you’d end up apologising in my messages like you did with my mate not so long ago! Ooooo sorryyy

mmttww · 2025-08-18T13:24:06+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
I wouldn’t want to prove you wrong, you’d end up apologising in my messages like you did with my mate…..hilarious

but you're definitely not boosh, and you definitely don't forget which login you used and rush to delete posts, and he's definitely your mate, not an alt account. Flattered you talk about me in the DMs, though. You do a good Trump impression, as well. Credit where it's due.

skybluetony176 · 2025-08-18T13:25:09+0100

The governments definition of anything doesn’t mean it is what it is. They can pass legislation in parliament so long as they can whip the numbers. Exhibit A, Rwanda is a safe country.

The Oxford English Dictionary on the other hand is literal and the literal meaning of terrorism is the use of intimidation and/or violence. Spray painting planes is neither of those things. They may be militant but they’re certainly not terrorists.

Sick Boy · 2025-08-18T13:25:14+0100

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Not even worth the time of day arguing, biggest hypocrite on here

Sorry I will be careful not to use "That's a stretch" again.

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:25:26+0100

mmttww said:
but you're definitely not boosh, and you definitely don't forget which login you used and rush to delete posts, and he's definitely your mate, not an alter account. Flattered you talk about me in the DMs, though. You do a good Trump impression, as well. Credit where it's due.

Can 110% confirm he’s my mate and he does exist, don’t get why you tried mugging me off in the first place I wasn’t even replying to you. Strange behaviour

wingy · 2025-08-18T13:29:30+0100

skybluetony176 said:
The governments definition of anything doesn’t mean it is what it is. They can pass legislation in parliament so long as they can whip the numbers. Exhibit A, Rwanda is a safe country.

The Oxford English Dictionary on the other hand is literal and the literal meaning of terrorism is the use of intimidation and/or violence. Spray painting planes is neither of those things. They may be militant but they’re certainly not terrorists.

A country operating a terrorist operation in their next door neighbour's back yard, beyond a pathetic charade of a normal safe country, possibly explains what happened in Southport last year tbf!

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-08-18T13:31:12+0100

You can’t argue that PA didn’t hit the government’s own threshold for terrorism. Their number of murder victims of 0 compared to Israel’s 60,000 notwithstanding…

shmmeee · 2025-08-18T13:35:59+0100

Brighton Sky Blue said:
You can’t argue that PA didn’t hit the government’s own threshold for terrorism. Their number of murder victims of 0 compared to Israel’s 60,000 notwithstanding…

For the love of Christ terrorism is a specific crime not just “really bad shit that happens”.

Grendel · 2025-08-18T13:36:17+0100

mmttww said:
but you're definitely not boosh, and you definitely don't forget which login you used and rush to delete posts, and he's definitely your mate, not an alt account. Flattered you talk about me in the DMs, though. You do a good Trump impression, as well. Credit where it's due.

They are two different people

SkyBlueDom26 · 2025-08-18T13:38:31+0100

Grendel said:
They are two different people

It’s his lazy answer when he runs out of ideas when we’re debating

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-08-18T13:39:57+0100

shmmeee said:
For the love of Christ terrorism is a specific crime not just “really bad shit that happens”.

The Israeli government are committing atrocities in the name of a political cause. They’re a terrorist regime.

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