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Israel - Palestinian Conflict (8 Viewers)

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Grendel

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,566
I don’t know why anyone would care - she’s had an anti Israel stance for years so who cares
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,567
Grendel said:
I don’t know why anyone would care - she’s had an anti Israel stance for years so who cares
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Just an anti semite Jew hater
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,568
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Just an anti semite Jew hater
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f*cking hell, this place is past saving.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,569
mmttww said:
f*cking hell, this place is past saving.
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Yeah because of people with opinions like yourself, used to it all being once sided till someone comes along with a difference of opinion. Missing kiss arses?
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,570
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah because of people with opinions like yourself, used to it all being once sided till someone comes along with a difference of opinion. Missing kiss arses?
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cool story, boosh.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,571
mmttww said:
cool story, boosh.
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Boosh haha, that’s my mate we’ve clarified this many a time…..that all you’ve got? So old and boring need some new disses
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,572
mmttww said:
f*cking hell, this place is past saving.
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I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,573
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Just an anti semite Jew hater
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There are plenty of Jews opposed to what Israel’s doing. Conflating Israel with Jewish people is anti-semitic in itself.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,574
Grendel said:
I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?
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No point in arguing with him, he just throws a big strop

 

mmttww

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,575
Grendel said:
I don’t understand why some random Irish author who has always been pro Palestine will mean a u turn by Starmer? Can you explain your rationale on this one?
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"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,576
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Just an anti semite Jew hater
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Thought you were clever? Not every Israeli is Jewish.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,577
Ian1779 said:
Thought you were clever? Not every Israeli is Jewish.
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Alright Ian1779, where did I say they were?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,578
mmttww said:
"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,579
Sick Boy said:
There are plenty of Jews opposed to what Israel’s doing. Conflating Israel with Jewish people is anti-semitic in itself.
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There’s been mass protests all over Israel this weekend. Israeli Jews protesting about the invasion and the plans to permanently occupy Gaza. Demanding an end to the invasion and a negotiated return of hostages. Clearly all “anti semite Jew haters”

'Not in our name': Israelis protest against Gaza war - but Netanyahu seems unmoved

Tyres were set alight and roads blocked as Israelis took their anger with the Gaza conflict onto the streets for what was called a "day of stoppage".
news.sky.com
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,580
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Alright Ian1779, where did I say they were?
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Grendel said that the novelist had an anti-Israel stance, you responded by calling her a antisemite Jew hater. You implied her dislike of Israel meant a dislike of Jews, thus conflating the two and being antisemitic yourself.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 17, 2025
  • #5,581
mmttww said:
"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.
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Mr Putin was on the list in 2022 as well. Ed Sheeran and Snoop Dogg are in the latest list.
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,582
Grendel said:
Mr Putin was on the list in 2022 as well. Ed Sheeran and Snoop Dogg are in the latest list.
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some random Russian bloke, a random ginge and a random red wine producer all getting some love from Time.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,583

Huge crowds gather in Israel calling for hostage deal and end to Gaza war

Large crowds fill 'Hostages Square' in Tel Aviv to call for fighting to cease and the release of all remaining hostages by Hamas.
www.bbc.com
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,584
mmttww said:
"Her four novels, which have been translated into more than 47 languages, have garnered critical acclaim and commercial success, and she is regarded as one of the foremost millennial writers. Time named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2022."

not exactly random, fella.

I don't think her opinion will do anything, but it's a story on the BBC News front page on a subject that's getting a lot of focus, because of stories like this.

I'm wondering how much more press, how many more arrests and how much more indirect promotion of PA it'll take before Starmer and co. roll back.

which isn't a mad question given that they've shown the backbone of a jellyfish and backtracked on a bunch of things already in a pretty short time.
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“Starmer and co” in this situation of course being the British security services. Or do you guys literally think Starmer asked for this?
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,585
shmmeee said:
“Starmer and co” in this situation of course being the British security services. Or do you guys literally think Starmer asked for this?
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I thought the Home Secretary was responsible for who goes on the proscribed list?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,586
SBT said:
I thought the Home Secretary was responsible for who goes on the proscribed list?
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In the government yes but she’s doesn’t just wake up one morning and decide FFS, she takes advice from security services. Yvette Cooper isn’t out there doing humint deep cover. The idea it was just “haha we hate the left” is more childish conspiratorial nonsense.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,587
shmmeee said:
In the government yes but she’s doesn’t just wake up one morning and decide FFS, she takes advice from security services. Yvette Cooper isn’t out there doing humint deep cover. The idea it was just “haha we hate the left” is more childish conspiratorial nonsense.
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Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,588
SBT said:
Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.
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Are you saying Jews control the govt?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,589
Reminder of this from last month ...
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,590
shmmeee said:
Are you saying Jews control the govt?
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Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,591
shmmeee said:
Are you saying Jews control the govt?
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That's......quite a stretch.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,592
SBT said:
Well it wasn’t just the British security services they took advice from, was it?

Either way, ultimately it’s in the Starmer government’s gift as to whether or not someone goes on the list, that doesn’t seem an unreasonable thing to say.
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They did take that advice though

"Palestine Action was proscribed based on strong security advice – following serious attacks the group has committed involving violence, significant injuries and extensive criminal damage," he said, adding: "Whilst many people may not yet know the reality of the organisation – those assessments are very clear."
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,593
SBT said:
Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.
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To be fair he just asks the question? And the answer is no
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,594
SBT said:
Funnily enough, no - I’m saying that politicians also lobbied the government hard to make this decision, including those from Israel.

Again - it would seem pretty reasonable to me to acknowledge that there were political aspects to this decision, and that it wasn’t a pure diktat from the security services. But instead you’re thwacking the anti-semitism card on the table so hard I’m surprised your wrist hasn’t fallen off. Have a fucking word with yourself.
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I’m not I’m just saying I think the UK security services are perfectly capable of not being overly influenced by Israelis. I’m sure lobbying happens, there’s no reason to suggest MI5 just chuck anyone in or that’s there’s not a process involved as you seem to be suggesting. By the time this sort of stuff comes across Polticians desks an awful lot of work has been done.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,595
uwu we are smol bean protesters pls understand

 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,596
shmmeee said:
uwu we are smol bean protesters pls understand

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Nothing at all then really,well nothing you wouldn't expect from a pub fracas on a Saturday night,more please if that's your limit?
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,597
Sky Blue Pete said:
To be fair he just asks the question? And the answer is no
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When did you stop beating your wife Pete?
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,598
Grendel said:
They did take that advice though

"Palestine Action was proscribed based on strong security advice – following serious attacks the group has committed involving violence, significant injuries and extensive criminal damage," he said, adding: "Whilst many people may not yet know the reality of the organisation – those assessments are very clear."
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Do you think the government action in this case has been a success?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,599
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SBT said:
When did you stop beating your wife Pete?
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Dont get it
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 18, 2025
  • #5,600
SBT said:
Do you think the government action in this case has been a success?
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What do you define as success?
 
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