Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The Suffragettes would be considered a terrorist organisation under current legislation.
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pete212
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Take your blinkers off.
They weren't a terror group until a week or so ago. So ask yourself, 'why are they, now?'
They sprayed paint on a plane and acted in sabotage. There's already laws to deal with them for that, and they know they'll probably go to jail for it. But they are exposing the bigger crime.
Nick
Administrator
Best make a sign and get down broadgate then.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
There were discussions to prescribe them as a terrorist group last year due to its strategy of attacking military sites and concerns regarding where its funding is from.
People can be a part of their group all they like but can’t then cry when they face consequences
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Yes and the people caught accepted the consequences
Reminds me of that famous Emmeline Pankhurst quote, “It’s a fair cop guv, maybe we should all spend more time worrying about ourselves a bit?”
Sick Boy
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Meanwhile, away from the Labour spin, the reality is quite different - UK sent Israel thousands of military items despite export ban, study finds
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chiefdave
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tbh my original point was less around if PA should be classed as a terrorist group or not (it absolutely should not imo) and more around the fact that police forces around the country claim to be under resourced yet have the resources to prioritise this.
If you phone up and say your car has been nicked or your house has been burgled there's nobody available, someone on my road was burgled and it was over a week before the police turned up. Yet a few OAPs sat on the steps of the Mandela statue in London, Mandela of course having been declared by this country to be a terrorist, sees the Met able to find hundreds of police to attend and arrest.
This despite case law and every legal talking head saying there is less than 0% chance of being able to convict anyone for the act of supporting PA alone, a group which in reality no longer exists. in fact I believe all those arrested have already been released without charge. A giant waste of police resources.
To use the example in this thread if the police were told the most important crime to investigate was people having a joint at home and they allocated huge resources to go door to door seeking out offenders I'm sure most people would think that was complete nonsense and a total waste of time.
Anyway I thought the jails were full, which criminals do people want to let out so we can lock placard waving OAPs up?
Nope
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
This, how you can watch things like the recent documentary on C4 or some of the horrific footage that's been on this thread this week alone and think the real problem is protesters is beyond me.
It's frankly mind boggling that people are putting people sitting quietly on the steps of a statue up there with actively supporting ISIS and Al Queda
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
As is the case with dear leader, morals and principles quickly go out of the window with some.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
Pretty sure our travelling fans have trashed an away end on at least one occasion. That would meet the bar for adding Coventry City supporters to the list of proscribed organisations on the basis of damage to property, the same criteria being applied here. Reckon if that happened most people would, righty, be outraged and say it was an abuse of power and absolutely farcical.
Not like we don't have examples where the government of the day have added groups to the proscribed list to months later be forced to remove them as they could not provide the evidence required to satisfy the courts that the threshold for proscription had been met. In fact in the past it has been done in very similar circumstances with groups bundled into a vote in parliament on far more dangerous groups.
Captain Dart
Well-Known Member
Some of their objectives certainly but some of the methods a few of their members have used I don't.
Do I think in very extreme circumstances over some issues (not necessarially related to the Palestine issue) direct action may become justified, yes but I am a long way from thinking that over a current issue.
I definitely am in favour of demonstrating in support of Palestine and against the murderous Israeli regime. That's not illegal is it?
Why do you care?
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I get your point, but supporting a terrorist organisation is something that generally we would all like to see policed quite strongly no?
As I say, whether PA is a terrorist organisation is an entirely different discussion. But given it's designation I would say the police have to take it very seriously, whether it's clearly a bunch of middle class people holding signs or not.
And obeying the law goes out of the window with some apparently.
Nick
Administrator
People are calling a terror group a terror group.
Let's face it, if I wanted to I could spend all day today watching horrific footage from wars of people being killed. There's plenty of wars, plenty of footage, plenty of deaths. There has been for as long as I remember.
Who has said anything about the "real problem"? You're making stuff up.
People are too desperate to be "on the right side of history" with their bullshit.
Nick
Administrator
I mean, that's common sense really.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Indeed but it’s just hypocrisy if you’ve just posted that anyone breaking the law should be arrested but then regularly post about breaking the law yourself on a public forum.
How awful
You’ve been ranting for a solid hour on another thread about what medicines fat people should be allowed to take, why are you so aghast that other people choose to get passionate about other topics?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
They’re a militant organisation not a terrorist organisation and there is a difference. Spay painting a few military planes while organising mass largely if not entirely peaceful protest in the streets is not terrorism. Targeting innocent people with bombs is terrorism. We’ve seen terrorism in this country from Warrington to 7/7 attacks. You’d think we’d be smart enough to know the difference.
Starmer is in danger of making Israel’s invasion of Gaza into his GW2. The public eventually seen though the propaganda and Tony Blair is widely seen as a war criminal. Starmer seems intent on joining the club with continual arms support, blind eye turning and the demonising of protesters.
Starmer is in danger of making Israel’s invasion of Gaza into his GW2. The public eventually seen though the propaganda and Tony Blair is widely seen as a war criminal. Starmer seems intent on joining the club with continual arms support, blind eye turning and the demonising of protesters.
And the other people in this thread aren’t?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
This. He really is dreadful and will inevitably gift Number 10 to Farage.
Ian1779
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