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clint van damme

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  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,026
Harry Krishner said:
Interested to hear peoples' views on how to extract dangerous and well-armed terrorists in highly built up areas that continue to fire on any attacking forces while simultaneously firing rockets randomly into civilian areas in both the north and south of the country - and how to get your own people back who are still being held hostage?

What would you do in that situation?
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They don't give a fuck about the hostages. If they did they wouldn't be bombarding sites where they are potentially held.
Also see the treatment of the hostages families by Netanyahu and his fellow physcos.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,027
It’s all about self-preservation for Netanyahu.
 
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Harry Krishner

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  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,028
Genuinely - what would you do if you were in that situation?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,029
Harry Krishner said:
Genuinely - what would you do if you were in that situation?
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What? Facing corruption charges?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,030
Harry Krishner said:
Genuinely - what would you do if you were in that situation?
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Wouldn’t start from here
Would build a worldwide support for a sustainable solution for the Middle East
Once the attack by Hamas happened it’s shit as are most wars are
But there are conventions to assist inhuman acts from taking place that if we’re being honest is not just Israel acting illegally.
there’s a lot of double standards for some reason when Israel and Palestine are concerned and it’s probably because we historically feel a bit responsible
 
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Como

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  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,031
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wouldn’t start from here
Would build a worldwide support for a sustainable solution for the Middle East
Once the attack by Hamas happened it’s shit as are most wars are
But there are conventions to assist inhuman acts from taking place that if we’re being honest is not just Israel acting illegally.
there’s a lot of double standards for some reason when Israel and Palestine are concerned and it’s probably because we historically feel a bit responsible
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I am not sure of this is supposed to be a joke.

OK for example?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 31, 2024
  • #4,032
Como said:
I am not sure of this is supposed to be a joke.

OK for example?
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Why?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 3, 2024
  • #4,033
French people being told to get out of Iran
Iran saying shit is going to go off
 
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Diogenes

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  • Aug 3, 2024
  • #4,034
Harry Krishner said:
Genuinely - what would you do if you were in that situation?
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What I wouldn't have done is committed ethnic cleansing, turned the place into a giant prison and created an ethno state that dehumanises the other group for the best part of a century.

There's a pretty damn good chance none of this happens had Israel made different historical choices.
 
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Como

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  • Aug 3, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2024
  • #4,036
Diogenes said:
What I wouldn't have done is committed ethnic cleansing, turned the place into a giant prison and created an ethno state that dehumanises the other group for the best part of a century.

There's a pretty damn good chance none of this happens had Israel made different historical choices.
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Or just not assassinated a leader who was actually trying to get peace
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 3, 2024
  • #4,037
Como said:
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Pity rape wasn't an event, they'd be a shoe in for that, and you could chug yourself off to the hilights
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 4, 2024
  • #4,038

Gaza: Casualties after third Israeli strike on schools in a week

Rescuers in Gaza say most of the dead were women and children, but Israel insists it targeted Hamas.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Diogenes

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #4,039
Amid rumours of a flurry of vargo flights from Russia to Iran the last 72 hours, Sergey Shoigu has arrived in Iran.


 

Diogenes

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  • Aug 5, 2024
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Diogenes

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #4,041
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-it-may-be-justified-to-starve-2-million-gazans-but-world-wont-let-us/
 
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Como

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  • Aug 6, 2024
  • #4,042

Nine Unrwa staff members ‘may have been involved’ in 7 October attack

UN fires employees from Palestinian refugee agency following internal investigation into their role in the Hamas-led attack on Israel
www.theguardian.com

There is film of them, they were holding hostages and it is a lot more than 9

Gaslit or what.
 

Diogenes

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  • Aug 7, 2024
  • #4,043
An actual poll on Israeli tv
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #4,044
Diogenes said:
An actual poll on Israeli tvView attachment 37561
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And we all know that by terrorist they mean any Palestian, man, woman or child, as the videos that are emerging prove.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #4,045
Como said:

Nine Unrwa staff members ‘may have been involved’ in 7 October attack

UN fires employees from Palestinian refugee agency following internal investigation into their role in the Hamas-led attack on Israel
www.theguardian.com

There is film of them, they were holding hostages and it is a lot more than 9

Gaslit or what.
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Is this the 9 that investigated but was out a total of 22 stated by Israel?
 

Harry Krishner

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #4,046
Diogenes said:
What I wouldn't have done is committed ethnic cleansing, turned the place into a giant prison and created an ethno state that dehumanises the other group for the best part of a century.

There's a pretty damn good chance none of this happens had Israel made different historical choices.
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What would you have done then?

What choices do you think the Jews have actually had? They are the ones who have been ethnically cleansed. When they lived among the Arabs, they were periodically slaughtered; we all know how their time in Europe went.
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 10, 2024
  • #4,047
Diogenes said:
An actual poll on Israeli tvView attachment 37561
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Fucking hell!
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 10, 2024
  • #4,048
They really are bastards.

Israel strike on Gaza school building kills more than 70, hospital head says

Israel says it targeted Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants embedded in the Gaza City school - one of several hit recently.
www.bbc.co.uk

Key for me

“A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said al-Taba’een school "served as an active Hamas and Islamic Jihad military facility" with approximately 20 "militants" operating there.

More than 60 people were killed and 47 injured, the health ministry’s ambulance service said, quoted by the AP news agency.”

These are surely war crimes,
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 10, 2024
  • #4,049
MalcSB said:
They really are bastards.

Israel strike on Gaza school building kills more than 70, hospital head says

Israel says it targeted Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants embedded in the Gaza City school - one of several hit recently.
www.bbc.co.uk

Key for me

“A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said al-Taba’een school "served as an active Hamas and Islamic Jihad military facility" with approximately 20 "militants" operating there.

More than 60 people were killed and 47 injured, the health ministry’s ambulance service said, quoted by the AP news agency.”

These are surely war crimes,
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You'd hope so,get Warsi in and stop this!!
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 10, 2024
  • #4,050
Harry Krishner said:
What would you have done then?

What choices do you think the Jews have actually had? They are the ones who have been ethnically cleansed. When they lived among the Arabs, they were periodically slaughtered; we all know how their time in Europe went.
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Which makes it okay for them to do it to anyone else.

I've never had anything against the Jewish people for my entire life and I've been around a long time. I studied modern history at Uni in the 1980s and particularly the war in central Europe. I learned more than most about anti semitism and the extermination camps .
But for the first time in my life when I see an Israeli flag (at the Olympic games specifically) I feel it represents not a struggle for freedom, not survival against unimaginable evil. It represents hypocrisy.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 10, 2024
  • #4,051
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Which makes it okay for them to do it to to anyone else.
I've never had anything against the Jewish people for my entire life and I've been around a long time. I studied modern history at Uni in the 1980s and particularly the war in central Europe. I learned more than most about anti semitism and the extermination camps .
But for the first time in my life when I see an Israeli flag (at the Olympic games specifically) I feel it represents not a struggle for freedom, not survival against unimaginable evil. It represents hypocrisy.
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Incredibly well put.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,052
Diogenes said:
What I wouldn't have done is committed ethnic cleansing, turned the place into a giant prison and created an ethno state that dehumanises the other group for the best part of a century.

There's a pretty damn good chance none of this happens had Israel made different historical choices.
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One good historical choice would be the six Arab nations not invading Israel at the moment of its birth
 
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Harry Krishner

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,053
Well said.

And subsequent attempted invasions that resulted in the loss of ie. the Golan Heights and Sinai.
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,054
I wonder how the Welsh would have felt had Wales been handed over to form an Israeli state.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,055
MalcSB said:
I wonder how the Welsh would have felt had Wales been handed over to form an Israeli state.
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They would have had to learn to check their anti semetism and know their place.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,056
MalcSB said:
I wonder how the Welsh would have felt had Wales been handed over to form an Israeli state.
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Eamonn de Valera didn’t exactly cover Ireland in glory during this phase of history either.
 

duffer

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,057
Harry Krishner said:
Well said.

And subsequent attempted invasions that resulted in the loss of ie. the Golan Heights and Sinai.
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You mean the territory that is still considered as illegally occupied by Israel, those Golan heights?

Regardless, if you're trying to make some kind of historical justification for the ongoing genocide in Gaza, well you're just dead wrong I'm afraid.

It's sickening, and should be called out as such at every opportunity. It isn't anti-Semitic to do so.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,058
Diogenes said:
They would have had to learn to check their anti semetism and know their place.
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No “from the Severn to the sea, boyo” allowed then.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,059
Diogenes said:
They would have had to learn to check their anti semetism and know their place.
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Had they lost their land to the French or English it would have been called nationalism .
It would have been the same had it been Israel. Not specifically" anti semitism "
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 11, 2024
  • #4,060
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Had they lost their land to the French or English it would have been called nationalism .
It would have been the same had it been Israel. Not specifically" anti semitism "
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True, there is a huge difference between antI-Zionism and anti- semitism to the extent that Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism are Jewish sects that are anti-Zionist.
 
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