Never believed the artificial deadline of Elliott's " Ticking Clock" was anything more than a device to make everybody feel grateful that we'd been saved and that no other options were possible.
Deal cut between Ranson/Robinson and Sisu well before any "deadlines" had to be met I suspect.
Geoffrey Robinson has said on radio that there was another option at the time, an option he prefered, which i know could hane been a selfish point of view.
Think it was, but would it have been worse than sisu ? I seem to remember GR saying he wasn't part of the other party but had introduced them to the club I know for certain Robinson was dead against sisu getting their hands on the club.
As our situation is directly related to stadium ownership, how many clubs in the UK don't own their ground?
Remember reports of him quaffing copious amounts of Champagne in celebration at the time.
Which means he thought he was getting a good deal.
Don't think that any deal could have been done without the input and permission of Robinson.
Robinson the original true socialist millionaire
Aha, love that! One of them neo-liberal 'New Labour' tw@s who have took Labour from it's TRUE roots! Now another party that doesn't care about us. At least they aren't tory.
Sorry for taking the thread off track.
Robinson's ideal choice probably involved him having an even bigger pay-off!
The Politics Graduate & the Socialist in me thinks: well that's three of us who are pissed off that we've been totally disenfranchised by the only political party that came close to representing us selling out to pursue a centre-Tory ideological stance: as a % of posters in the thread, that's pretty high.
Surely time for a new political party? One that actually has a soul and gives a feck? It's a fresh marketing angle, I know, but it could play surprisingly well...do a New Labour on New Labour, be slicker than like the Real Labour etc lot, who just came over as antiquated. Maybe employ satire as a primary weapon.
It's a shame Militant Labour faction got kicked out (I weren't alive for them), replaced by middle-class, oxbridge grads to try and sort out pressing needs for the working-class, allowing to people/MPs like Robinson to move Labour closer to the centre.
Thing is, our parties are entrenched, only true way to reform is by revolution!
But I agree with you
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I think we should get rid of the monarchy, each one us has to pay 50p for them and for what they are, they are, essentially, tyrants, and we are not true citizens.
Stadium ownership has bugger all to do with our situation. People seem to think the Arena is a golden goose - it isn't. Until recently, it barely made any profit at all, and even last year, the profits just about equate to what CCFC pay in rent. So if the club owned the Ricoh, and took out its rent, and (say) the catering payments, we'd not only have a club that was losing money, but a stadium as well. Brilliant!As our situation is directly related to stadium ownership, how many clubs in the UK don't own their ground?
Its well known that a lot of the financial difficulties in Italy are as a result of most grounds being owned by local councils. Are we alone in that respect? Because the fact we don't is a reason why we might have gone bust, as opposed to those other clubs you mention. Those clubs are an attractive proposition because they have revenue potential. Our's is capped to a certain extent which would directly influence any potential investment. The initial outlay to access those revenue streams would put off alot of people.
It's a shame Militant Labour faction got kicked out (I weren't alive for them), replaced by middle-class, oxbridge grads to try and sort out pressing needs for the working-class, allowing to people/MPs like Robinson to move Labour closer to the centre.
Thing is, our parties are entrenched, only true way to reform is by revolution!
But I agree with you
Warning: POTENTIAL CONTENTIOUS STATEMENT
I think we should get rid of the monarchy, each one us has to pay 50p for them and for what they are, they are, essentially, tyrants, and we are not true citizens.
Yeah, I'm in favour of Revolution. But with the amount of apathy about, it's about as likely as City spending a couple of million in the January transfer window. Cameron's just as bad in that he has no real values either. Your options are two weak watered down centre-ist versions of what those parties once ideologically stood for. Money is more important to both of them than anything else.
Knocked the doors for Nellist during his Election succes ,not a chance of corruption with that guy ,no snout in the trough like they've all been at for the last 15yrs,can't believe he lost his seat in the locals.
Are you citizen Smith?
Power To The People.
:guitar2:and the public wants what the public gets.....well I don't get what this
society wants...i'm going underground.
And what's a 10-point deduction between friends?
Waggott's just effectively handed us a 12-point handicap by destabilising the club 3 games into the new season...
Well with all the political hardline attitudes on this thread can I at least ask that come the revolution, can you remove that twat Linnell from the airwaves. That would get my vote!
Talk about me obsessed with thorn. Your new found zeal against waggot permeates every theead.
12 point handicap suggests to me you think preserving the status quo would have meant 4 wins. So a manager who won 2 away games in his entire career suddenly wins 3 in a row?
Have you been on the sherry early today?
Thorn is gone and you turn every thread back to his focus. Hopefully you'll stop soon. Waggott is still here. Hopefully I'll stop soon after he leaves. Until such time, I'll highlight his inadequacies in the same way you zealously jumped on Thorn's. But hopefully without your characteristic hyperbole and fiction
By implication you turn it back. Define 12 point handicap then - what did you mean?
Thorn is gone and you turn every thread back to his focus. Hopefully you'll stop soon. Waggott is still here. Hopefully I'll stop soon after he leaves. Until such time, I'll highlight his inadequacies in the same way you zealously jumped on Thorn's. But hopefully without your characteristic hyperbole and fiction
Into a new season, we were thrown into turmoil which resulted in a 4-game losing streak; which had the potential to deliver 12 points.
You'll say - predictably - we wouldn't have won them all. Conjecture. I'll say we lost them all. Fact
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