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Evo1883

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #176
Liquid Gold said:
Because we rolled the dice that letting them have the ball and trying to break us down would win it for us. It obviously didn't but I still stand by if we scored our third pen we're European champions right now. If that paid off he'd have a knighthood and a statue on the way.
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Southgate didn't know how to change the game , he made the wrong subs , just like against Croatia in 2018 .

It's frustrating , but it is what it is , I'm already content that we will do nothing in qatar
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #177
Evo1883 said:
But he didn't
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He got us to a final, spring of 2018 if you'd have said we'd have been to a semi and a final in that time I'd have called you mad.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #178
Evo1883 said:
Southgate didn't know how to change the game , he made the wrong subs , just like against Croatia in 2018 .

It's frustrating , but it is what it is , I'm already content that we will do nothing in qatar
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What does nothing look like to you?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #179
Liquid Gold said:
What does nothing look like to you?
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Depending on the groups i can't see us getting lucky 3 times in a row with the draw , and with some countries improving over the last couple years like Spain slowly getting better , Argentina winning the copa America and France arguably having a dodgy tournament last time round .. I'm not expecting much more than a last 8 finish

We had our chance
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #180
Liquid Gold said:
He got us to a final, spring of 2018 if you'd have said we'd have been to a semi and a final in that time I'd have called you mad.
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He SHOULD have got us to the final with that draw 100% , the stars aligned after our last group game
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #181
Liquid Gold said:
Calling @Brighton Sky Blue
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Scored plenty in qualifying before shitting the bed at the finals with inexplicable squad selection
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #182
Evo1883 said:
He SHOULD have got us to the final with that draw 100% , the stars aligned after our last group game
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It's been done to death and I think we're not going to agree so will leave it after this but you can only beat what's in front of you and he's succeeded where everybody else in my lifetime has failed. He needs to get smarter at changing games and take us that extra step to actually win something 100%.

I still don't care about a 1-1 in qualifying provided that we qualify.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #183
Liquid Gold said:
Jogi Lowe didn't exactly have a brilliant club career and he did alright. A lot of countries actually do well bringing managers through their youth setups as it's different from club football.
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I suspect that the man who is happy to eat his own navel fluff on camera didn't get the post for the same reasons Mr Marks and Spencer got his
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #184
Liquid Gold said:
Better to beat a shit German side in a major tournament than beat a great German side in qualifying, do fuck all in the tournament but obsess about it for 20 years.
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Thomas Muller missing a gilt edged sitter at 1-0 helped a teeny bit
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #185
Liquid Gold said:
It's been done to death and I think we're not going to agree so will leave it after this but you can only beat what's in front of you and he's succeeded where everybody else in my lifetime has failed. He needs to get smarter at changing games and take us that extra step to actually win something 100%.

I still don't care about a 1-1 in qualifying provided that we qualify.
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Yea , we pretty much always qualify though .. I'm not worried about that aspect ever really.

Anyway he's a nice bloke , but I'd rather he turned down the contract
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #186
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thomas Muller missing a gilt edged sitter at 1-0 helped a teeny bit
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Honestly, these moments happen in nearly every evenly matched football match. People will never be happy with England, just the way it is. Even if we win a tournament it'll be because other teams aren't as good as usual, or we got an easy draw. It's all nonsense really. Just enjoy the ride.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #187
Evo1883 said:
Yea , we pretty much always qualify though .. I'm not worried about that aspect ever really.

Anyway he's a nice bloke , but I'd rather he turned down the contract
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Careful what you wish for. The turgid underperformance between '96 and the last few years isn't something I'd want to go back to.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #188
Liquid Gold said:
It's been done to death and I think we're not going to agree so will leave it after this but you can only beat what's in front of you and he's succeeded where everybody else in my lifetime has failed. He needs to get smarter at changing games and take us that extra step to actually win something 100%.

I still don't care about a 1-1 in qualifying provided that we qualify.
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Was a crap performance today but we were still a bit unlucky. If we had a striker today may have won. Kane was completely absent. Foden & Grealish look so creative but never seems to come to anything. Kane is great, but not sure he suits the team we have. Need someone consistently in the box.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #189
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thomas Muller missing a gilt edged sitter at 1-0 helped a teeny bit
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Even had he scored, we’d have won the game. We were in control and only one team looked like worthy winners, it wasn’t Germany.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #190
I appreciate we’ve got some young talented players but some just think that you just chuck them in and let them play. They have limited training/practice time…currently meet ups are as regular as it’s been for a long time due to covid. Our top striker is bang out of form, regular recent goalscorer (Sterling) not playing regularly for his club, stones hasnt played a minute for Man City this season and our player of the year (Philips) is out injured. Hungary played well…like they did in 2-3 Euro matches.

England weren’t good last night but international management isn’t as easy as some are making out. Just look at what Erickson and Capello managed with a fair few established world class players.

I hope Southgate keeps trying one sitter though. On last nights performance I wonder if Bellingham rather than Mount alongside Foden might be a better fit for that formation
 

SomersetSB

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #191
Rice looked lost without his mucker in midfield I thought we got over ran in there.
Should have put Henderson on with Rice and kept Grealish on and took Foden or mount off imo.
Fair play to Hungary though they came to play!!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #192
Evo1883 said:
Southgate didn't know how to change the game , he made the wrong subs , just like against Croatia in 2018 .

It's frustrating , but it is what it is , I'm already content that we will do nothing in qatar
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I still maintain there will be a leftfield winner of this tournament, not a rank outsider but someone unfancied
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #193
clint van damme said:
I still maintain there will be a leftfield winner of this tournament, not a rank outsider but someone unfancied
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Scotland ?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #194
CCFCSteve said:
I appreciate we’ve got some young talented players but some just think that you just chuck them in and let them play. They have limited training/practice time…currently meet ups are as regular as it’s been for a long time due to covid. Our top striker is bang out of form, regular recent goalscorer (Sterling) not playing regularly for his club, stones hasnt played a minute for Man City this season and our player of the year (Philips) is out injured. Hungary played well…like they did in 2-3 Euro matches.

England weren’t good last night but international management isn’t as easy as some are making out. Just look at what Erickson and Capello managed with a fair few established world class players.

I hope Southgate keeps trying one sitter though. On last nights performance I wonder if Bellingham rather than Mount alongside Foden might be a better fit for that formation
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To be fair to Erikson , during his time Brazil and France both had some of the best international sides in their respective histories , and several other international sides were just flat out very good .

Capello was not great at all
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #195
Evo1883 said:
Scotland ?
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Think it's fair to say that if they qualify they will be rank outsiders, I base it on a team adapting to conditions, Scotland not renown for it hot temperatures!
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #196
Evo1883 said:
Easiest routes available to any team at the tournament both times Pete mate.

Yea , I don't get it
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I don't know, I'd say Denmarks was probably easier.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #197
clint van damme said:
Think it's fair to say that if they qualify they will be rank outsiders, I base it on a team adapting to conditions, Scotland not renown for it hot temperatures!
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I was ofcourse taking the piss , I see what you're saying but as its winter I expect a top 5/10 nation to win it
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #198
I hope the Qatar WC gets cancelled....any reason for the cancellation will do. Fucking joke.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #199
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
I hope the Qatar WC gets cancelled....any reason for the cancellation will do. Fucking joke.
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No matter what happens it will be hailed as the greatest ever and pave the way for one to be held in Saudi Arabia within 20 years.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #200
I hope they cancel the World Cup every 2 years idea. Way to devalue the thing.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #201
Liquid Gold said:
I hope they cancel the World Cup every 2 years idea. Way to devalue the thing.
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They are devaluing everything else in the game mate, it's only a matter of time.

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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2021
  • #202
clint van damme said:
No matter what happens it will be hailed as the greatest ever and pave the way for one to be held in Saudi Arabia within 20 years.
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With the final at St James'

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2021
  • #203
Not good

Gianni Infantino: Opponents to biennial World Cup 'afraid of change'

Speaking in Cairo, Fifa president Gianni Infantino says opponents of plans for a biennial World Cup are "afraid" of change.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 26, 2021
  • #204
I genuinely believe if they pass it then uefa would break away from fifa.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2021
  • #205
Liquid Gold said:
I genuinely believe if they pass it then uefa would break away from fifa.
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UEFA and CONMEBOL which comprise let’s be honest the only confederations with a chance of winning the competition.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 26, 2021
  • #206
Brighton Sky Blue said:
UEFA and CONMEBOL which comprise let’s be honest the only confederations with a chance of winning the competition.
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It needs a bit of a shake up. A 2 year World Cup voted through by Rwanda is only going to push Germany, Brazil etc. Into something they have more power in.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #207
Anyone watching Ecuador v Brazil? Crazy game
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Feb 17, 2022
  • #208
The Molineux has been announced for the two June games. Shame we can't be at both but pleased we're getting to watch a game in the West Midlands. The more away from Wembley the better!
 
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