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[NorthernWisdom]

The individual cases are all well and good, and they have a certain dry satisfaction within them. Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust? Is the pitch ultimately their responsibility? Yep, of course.

However... how has it come to this? We first mentioned a new stadium 2013, showed renderings of it in December of that year. Various rumours of sites including Brandon, Woodlands etc. have come and gone. Then we had a proposed Butts partnership, followed by the University of Warwick - that was announced over two years ago.

And still, the closest we've got is that December 2013 rendering. That. Is. It. For a Plan A it hasn't delivered and has left us hostage to moves to Northampton, Birmingham... and out of our control whether games were played or not.

Nine years, and not a single planning application submitted. Given it was about four years from the identification of the Falmer site to planning permission, and then nine years after that for the ground to be built, we're looking at, what, 2040+ for our new ground if we follow those ratios!

*That* lies fully with the owners. *They* put us in the position where we're dependent on others. That wouldn't be so bad, if they didn't pipe up and now claiming a grand plan to do otherwise.

 

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[MAFF]

ffs i really can't be arsed with this shit again. i just want to go back to moaning about tyler walker.

 

[JoshCCFC1987]

new ground has always been a scare tatic to the council and wasps to try and get us a better deal at the cbs

 

[lordy_87]

wHy wOUlD wArWIcK uNi PuT tHeiR nAmE tO iT tHOuGh???

 

[Hobo]

Tim Fisher in charge of looking for land for the new stadium while walking his dog never really inspired confidence.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Uni site is more suited to Rugby.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

The individual cases are all well and good, and they have a certain dry satisfaction within them. Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust? Is the pitch ultimately their responsibility? Yep, of course.

However... how has it come to this? We first mentioned a new stadium 2013, showed renderings of it in December of that year. Various rumours of sites including Brandon, Woodlands etc. have come and gone. Then we had a proposed Butts partnership, followed by the University of Warwick - that was announced over two years ago.

And still, the closest we've got is that December 2013 rendering. That. Is. It. For a Plan A it hasn't delivered and has left us hostage to moves to Northampton, Birmingham... and out of our control whether games were played or not.

Nine years, and not a single planning application submitted. Given it was about four years from the identification of the Falmer site to planning permission, and then nine years after that for the ground to be built, we're looking at, what, 2040+ for our new ground if we follow those ratios!

*That* lies fully with the owners. *They* put us in the position where we're dependent on others. That wouldn't be so bad, if they didn't pipe up and now claiming a grand plan to do otherwise.

I’ll be 83 when I’m watching my first game at the U of W stadium then.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I’ll be 83 when I’m watching my first game at the U of W stadium then.

As long as the quidditch world cup doesn't mess the pitch up beforehand, anyway.

 

[Ashdown]

SISU couldn’t build a greenhouse. They’ve never had any intention of doing anything other than look for opportunities to engage their lawyers.

 

[mr_monkey]

Boo sisu boo

Bad Sisu for wasps not fulfilling their contractual obligations

 

[SBT]

Just a reminder that the official position of this forum is that we were “delighted” with the stadium announcement two years ago

Forum Statement on New Stadium Announcement

"As supporters of Coventry City we are delighted by the joint statement from CCFC and Warwick University. It is all the more pleasing given the assurances we received earlier this year from Dave Boddy & Joy Seppala on the priority that CCFC and Sisu were placing on having a stadium of our own...

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

 

[chiefdave]

Just a reminder that the official position of this forum is that we were “delighted” with the stadium announcement two years ago

I'm not sure anyone was expecting there to be a point at which the landlords didn't meet the most basic of requirements, ie a pitch that was safe to play a match on

 

[Liquid Gold]

Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust?

Yes, I'd be fucking delighted

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Boo sisu boo

Bad Sisu for wasps not fulfilling their contractual obligations

Bad SISU for constantly bleating on about a fucking ground rather than actually doing it. Their responsibility they're beholden to Wasps, given they've spent nearly a decade saying they're planning for the day when they're not, while doing fuck all about it!

 

[Liquid Gold]

Bad SISU for constantly bleating on about a fucking ground rather than actually doing it. Their responsibility they're beholden to Wasps, given they've spent nearly a decade saying they're planning for the day when they're not, while doing fuck all about it!

We all know that their end game has been the arena the whole time.

Everything they've done and said has been to devalue or destabilise and get their hands on it.

 

[mr_monkey]

Bad SISU for constantly bleating on about a fucking ground rather than actually doing it. Their responsibility they're beholden to Wasps, given they've spent nearly a decade saying they're planning for the day when they're not, while doing fuck all about it!

Like I said, boo Sisu... Also glad you know the inner workings of the Warwick stuff glad to have the insight on here it's appreciated

But you have to give them respect for conspiring with the efl and two referees to get the game cancelled yesterday to distress wasps, the clever buggers

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Also glad you know the inner workings of the Warwick stuff glad to have the insight on here it's appreciated

I forgot you were the blind cheerleader who took at face value every statement, and decided anybody who cast any shade was the same poster multi accounting...

As for your second point, I've already said that, but that doesn't suit your supine attempts to mock and ignore the reality of the situation does it.

 

[mr_monkey]

I forgot you were the blind cheerleader who took at face value every statement, and decided anybody who cast any shade was the same poster multi accounting...

As for your second point, I've already said that, but that doesn't suit your supine attempts to mock and ignore the reality of the situation does it.

No blind cheerleading just only deal in facts not rumour and bad feeling towards things that have happened in the past

The reality of the situation is that wasps failed to provide what we agreed to which then is somehow our owners fault and that's mental gymnastics I just can't do I'm affaid

They have done many many terrible things and they have been rightly called out for them but the fact the game got cancelled yesterday is not on them in any way at all and the anger should be directed at wasps not our club but instead it's turned into boo Sisu again as that is what people want

 

[Great_Expectations]

Yaaayy, SISU v Wasps v the Club again.

Sure this thread will be delightful.

 

[jamboy]

Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust?

Would that solve anything? With an insolvent owner wouldn’t we simply be locked out of the ground. This shit show teaches you that CCFC have no influence over the stadium operation.

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

Fuck sake, close this thread down / merge it with one of the countless others, do we really need to go over it again.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Yaaayy, SISU v Wasps v the Club again.

Sure this thread will be delightful.

DAAAAAVEEEE BODDDDYYYYY

 

[jamboy]

Fuck sake, close this thread down / merge it with one of the countless others, do we really need to go over it again.

Move the thread to Burton

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Just sick of being a fucking laughing stock

 

[usskyblue]

Just sick of being a fucking laughing stock

You can’t help it m8

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

The individual cases are all well and good, and they have a certain dry satisfaction within them. Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust?

I’d be celebrating long into the night before moving on to a SISU out movement. It’s not a one or the other type thing….

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I’d be celebrating long into the night before moving on to a SISU out movement. It’s not a one or the other type thing….

Exactly. It's possible for them all to be arses, as indeed they were when we moved to Northampton, even...

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Would that solve anything? With an insolvent owner wouldn’t we simply be locked out of the ground. This shit show teaches you that CCFC have no influence over the stadium operation.

Even if it didn't solve anything, I'd be kind of smug if they went bust, and not. gutted.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Exactly. It's possible for them all to be arses, as indeed they were when we moved to Northampton, even...

See I’ve been massively against wasps and the council since the beginning and been vocal about it. But it doesn’t mean I’ve forgiven SISU.

for me the long term goal is to get them out. Short term, we need to get the ricoh lease back in play, and that means the removal of wasps.

The thing is, In some perverse way - Joy was right. ACL needs to be unencumbered. And to start again.

SISUs plan to bring in AEG to the unencumbered lease was probably a wise idea.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

See I’ve been massively against wasps and the council since the beginning and been vocal about it. But it doesn’t mean I’ve forgiven SISU.

for me the long term goal is to get them out. Short term, we need to get the ricoh lease back in play, and that means the removal of wasps.

The thing is, In some perverse way - Joy was right. ACL needs to be unencumbered. And to start again.

SISUs plan to bring in AEG to the unencumbered lease was probably a wise idea.

You mean CCFC owning the freehold or a 250 year lease?

 

[Briles]

The individual cases are all well and good, and they have a certain dry satisfaction within them. Would anyone, really care if Wasps went bust? Is the pitch ultimately their responsibility? Yep, of course.

However... how has it come to this? We first mentioned a new stadium 2013, showed renderings of it in December of that year. Various rumours of sites including Brandon, Woodlands etc. have come and gone. Then we had a proposed Butts partnership, followed by the University of Warwick - that was announced over two years ago.

And still, the closest we've got is that December 2013 rendering. That. Is. It. For a Plan A it hasn't delivered and has left us hostage to moves to Northampton, Birmingham... and out of our control whether games were played or not.

Nine years, and not a single planning application submitted. Given it was about four years from the identification of the Falmer site to planning permission, and then nine years after that for the ground to be built, we're looking at, what, 2040+ for our new ground if we follow those ratios!

*That* lies fully with the owners. *They* put us in the position where we're dependent on others. That wouldn't be so bad, if they didn't pipe up and now claiming a grand plan to do otherwise.

If wasps go bust we don't have a stadium again

 

[NorthernWisdom]

If wasps go bust we don't have a stadium again

Not true, if our lease is written well enough.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

If wasps go bust we don't have a stadium again

I'm sure we would, maybe have to go on tour first again

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

You mean CCFC owning the freehold or a 250 year lease?

That would be ideal. But ACL is a clusterfuck atm

 

[Briles]

Not true, if our lease is written well enough.

I don't think I've ever seen a lease that says when a landlord goes bankrupt the tenants can stay once the lease/property is sold. Maybe its different commercially.