Immigration and Asylum (11 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Why Britain can't just return migrants to France, as Reform says

Reform UK appears to be wrong to claim Britain can legally turn small boats back in the Channel.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well he could do that if he wants.

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

Well he could do that if he wants.

The navy is the pride of our army. We should be deploying them.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It is happening on practically a daily basis. You could post articles in these threads most days if you really felt like it, that's how bad it has got. I think part of the problem is also that the general public are being treated like idiots. Look at Southport, Manchester Arena, Nottingham stabbings. Each one could have been prevented if various people had not been worried, or directly accused of, being racist.

It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together and see that certain demographics are massively overrepresented in statistics involving serious crime, particularly rape and sexual assault. Yet, there are some, and you see it on this forum, who say little about these crimes, but go mental when someone points this out, or speculates that the perpetrator may be of a certain background.

It is twisted to me that some, including seemingly the police forces, proudly cannot wait to tell us someone was 'White British', but cowardly say nothing when it isn't. The UK (for the time being, although this is changing) is still majority White British, so of course we should not be surprised if someone from this background commits a crime as this makes up the majority of residents in the country. Pretending not to understand per-capita, backgrounds, or religion has held us back for too long. Frankly, we have got past the point of trying to argue with people that cannot critically think. Actions needs to be taken as this situation is getting worse.

What actions are you thinking?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You're wasting your time. He simply wants to argue to try and trip you up and shout racist. It's not even a surprise any longer. Not a single coherent point made.

That’s unfair

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

How do you stop boats arriving? Other than blowing them out of the water which I'm sure you're not advocating.

And what are the criteria for mass deportations?

Yes, there needs to be some hard conversations on these topics, but we need to be prepared to take a hard line on both. This is also why I mentioned in my comments that there needs to be change in laws and processes. We are simply far too soft. I am sure a lot of them would think twice about coming if they were thrown in jail, and then deported within a week, for example.

All criminals have to go and this should be non-negotiable. There are reports hundreds of thousands, pushing millions, are here not contributing to society or the economy. We have to be prepared to kick a lot of them out as well. The salaries in the UK are derisory, and then you are taxed to oblivion whilst so many others are sponging and also taking up public services. It is no longer sustainable. I would reform the whole benifits system regardless, but that is a slightly different subject.

As I mentioned before, genuine asylum claims need to be fast-tracked so those people can be supported and contribute as well. Zero tolerance on anyone taking the piss, though.

 

[DT-R]

How do you stop boats arriving? Other than blowing them out of the water which I'm sure you're not advocating.

And what are the criteria for mass deportations?

Stop the boats with better deterrents. Harsher punishments for the smugglers, immediate deportation of anyone entering via the illegal boat/lorry route. It wont take people long to stop paying smugglers to come here if the end journey is immediately on a freight plane back to whence you came. Especially if it means you will now never get the chance to ever apply to return through legal channels. If you come here on a boat and/or throw away your passport/paperwork to hide your identity, you leave with immediate effect and are placed on a never to enter again watch list.

Criteria for mass deportation is anyone who entered illegally, and/or without documentation. If you came to England on a dinghy from France, you are here illegally, and have waived your human rights and will be deported and never allowed to return. Simple as that!

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Stop the boats with better deterrents. Harsher punishments for the smugglers, immediate deportation of anyone entering via the illegal boat/lorry route. It wont take people long to stop paying smugglers to come here if the end journey is immediately on a freight plane back to whence you came. Especially if it means you will now never get the chance to ever apply to return through legal channels. If you come here on a boat and/or throw away your passport/paperwork to hide your identity, you leave with immediate effect and are placed on a never to enter again watch list.

Criteria for mass deportation is anyone who entered illegally, and/or without documentation. If you came to England on a dinghy from France, you are here illegally, and have waived your human rights and will be deported and never allowed to return. Simple as that!

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It’s not illegal

 

[DT-R]

It’s not illegal

Getting on an illegal boat (usually by way of smuggling drugs around Europe for the seat) then destroying your passport and entering the county without permission isnt illegal? Ok!

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