Immigration and Asylum (2 Viewers)

chiefdave · Sep 15, 2025

Major Tom said:
Looking forward - Having worked in technology the biggest threat to working class people is not immigration or if someone wants to dress up as a woman, it's the rapid implementation of AI and the shedding of workforces across Britain. I have seen whole teams disappear in 18 months against an original timeframe of 3 years. The machine learning is frightening. This is only the start and with less people paying taxes or on lower pay there will be even less money to run the country with.

Great post. The problem runs far deeper than 'stop the boats'. You could stop every single boat and very little would actually change.

We have zero plan for how to deal with ever increasing automation. We've ignored it until now and there's massive resistance to any attempt to change work patterns, just look at the response to WFH or the 4 day week.

We've got shit jobs, with poverty wages, that nobody wants that we fill with immigrants, or often illegals who will work for sub-minimum wage. At the same time we've got a ton of people leaving uni with meaningless degrees applying for hundreds, if not thousands, of jobs and getting nowhere.

This has been put off for years by inventing jobs that aren't really needed but the house of cards is close to collapsing with nobody, well nobody in a position to do anything, putting forward any sort of plan to deal with the situation.

rob9872 · Sep 15, 2025

chiefdave said:
Great post. The problem runs far deeper than 'stop the boats'. You could stop every single boat and very little would actually change.

We have zero plan for how to deal with ever increasing automation. We've ignored it until now and there's massive resistance to any attempt to change work patterns, just look at the response to WFH or the 4 day week.

We've got shit jobs, with poverty wages, that nobody wants that we fill with immigrants, or often illegals who will work for sub-minimum wage. At the same time we've got a ton of people leaving uni with meaningless degrees applying for hundreds, if not thousands, of jobs and getting nowhere.

This has been put off for years by inventing jobs that aren't really needed but the house of cards is close to collapsing with nobody, well nobody in a position to do anything, putting forward any sort of plan to deal with the situation.

Don't forget to account for the 5m people working on HS2 to end at some point in the next 100 years.

mmttww · Sep 15, 2025

What is the Green New Deal? - Green New Deal UK

The Green New Deal is our map to a future worth fighting for. It's the only response that fits the scale of the crises we're facing.

www.greennewdealuk.org

Epect it'll get LOL'd out the door, but a big part of why I liked Zara as an MP was how she got behind this.

If there's the will and money for HS2, there's the will and money for this somewhere. Could fix so much.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 15, 2025

mmttww said:
What is the Green New Deal? - Green New Deal UK

The Green New Deal is our map to a future worth fighting for. It's the only response that fits the scale of the crises we're facing.

www.greennewdealuk.org

Epect it'll get LOL'd out the door, but a big part of why I liked Zara as an MP was how she got behind this.

If there's the will and money for HS2, there's the will and money for this somewhere. Could fix so much.

You liked Zara as an MP, as soon as you said them words it’s impossible to take you seriously.

mmttww · Sep 15, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
it’s impossible to take you seriously.

You were the exact target audience for my post and you didn't like it. I'm devastated and will reflect on it. Sad.

SBT · Sep 22, 2025

Reform plans to scrap indefinite leave to remain for migrants

The party says scrapping the scheme and restricting migrant access to benefits will save hundreds of billions of pounds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tough shit if you’re an immigrant who obeyed all the rules, got a job and learned the language.

mmttww · Sep 22, 2025

SBT said:
Reform plans to scrap indefinite leave to remain for migrants

The party says scrapping the scheme and restricting migrant access to benefits will save hundreds of billions of pounds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tough shit if you’re an immigrant who obeyed all the rules, got a job and learned the language.

and this very smart idea is to align us with how the UAE handles things. Nothing mad about that at all.

SBT · Sep 22, 2025

mmttww said:
and this very smart idea is to align us with how the UAE handles things. Nothing mad about that at all.

This is just Farage making good on his plans to make the UK more like an authoritarian Islamic theocracy where 90% of the population are immigrants.

Captain Dart · Sep 23, 2025

Glad someone is investigating the flows of money.

US cash turned Tommy Robinson into the poster boy of UK f...

An American tech billionaire was instrumental in funding the far-right figure’s rise to stardom – and even paid for his new set of teeth

observer.co.uk

Sick Boy · Sep 23, 2025

Captain Dart said:
Glad someone is investigating the flows of money.

US cash turned Tommy Robinson into the poster boy of UK f...

An American tech billionaire was instrumental in funding the far-right figure’s rise to stardom – and even paid for his new set of teeth

observer.co.uk

There are loads of obvious bot/AI-generated comments under their videos as well.

chiefdave · Sep 23, 2025

Behind the doors of asylum hotels - what I found when I went inside

A BBC reporter goes into four hotels and speaks to asylum seekers and staff about what daily life is like.

www.bbc.co.uk

Nick · Sep 23, 2025

chiefdave said:
Behind the doors of asylum hotels - what I found when I went inside

A BBC reporter goes into four hotels and speaks to asylum seekers and staff about what daily life is like.

www.bbc.co.uk

Is this meant to make people feel bad?

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

SBT said:
Reform plans to scrap indefinite leave to remain for migrants

The party says scrapping the scheme and restricting migrant access to benefits will save hundreds of billions of pounds.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tough shit if you’re an immigrant who obeyed all the rules, got a job and learned the language.

I just had this from my friend who lives in Ealing. She has been here 17 years. She is of Pakistani heritage and wears traditional Pakistani clothing. No masks or veils though. More like sari's etc

For her to say this, is very worrying.

I was telling her how much I loved Folkestone and asked how things were going for her in London.

This is her reply ..

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Sick Boy said:
There are loads of obvious bot/AI-generated comments under their videos as well.

The tech bros have their own seriously weird ambitions for society which make their support for the likes of Yaxley-Lennon unsurprising.

Nick · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I just had this from my friend who lives in Ealing. She has been here 17 years. She is of Pakistani heritage and wears traditional Pakistani clothing. No masks or veils though. More like sari's etc

For her to say this, is very worrying.

I was telling her how much I loved Folkestone and how things were going for her in London.

This is her reply ..

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As always, cowards who target a woman on public transport. (Or anywhere)

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

The kids are 16, 14 and 10.

All speak perfect English, as so does she

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Nick said:
As always, cowards who target a woman on public transport.

The brave ones try to burn people alive in hotels.

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

Nick said:
As always, cowards who target a woman on public transport.

She is talking of leaving the UK to go and live in Norway. She actually has Norwegian citizenship, as she was born there, but then came to England 17 years ago.

Has her own business here

So sad to hear shit like this.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
She is talking of leaving the UK to go and live in Norway. She actually has Norwegian citizenship, as she was born there, but then came to England 17 years ago.

Has her own business here

So sad to hear shit like this.

People feel more emboldened to be overtly racist while the likes of Farage and Robinson light the touch paper.

Flying Fokker · Sep 23, 2025

PVA said:
One of the main drivers behind Brexit was to reduce immigration. All it did was replace Poles and Latvians with Pakistanis and Nigerians.

I guess the statistics are out there to back this up?

I found this?

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Flying Fokker said:
I guess the statistics are out there to back this up?

Before Brexit, most immigration came from within the EU. Now, there is net migration out of the UK back into the EU, and a big increase in non-EU immigration.

Net migration to the UK - Migration Observatory

An overview of net migration in the UK – defined as the difference between immigration and emigration of people moving for at least a year.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

Sick Boy · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
She is talking of leaving the UK to go and live in Norway. She actually has Norwegian citizenship, as she was born there, but then came to England 17 years ago.

Has her own business here

So sad to hear shit like this.

Don't blame her - she'd have a better quality of life there.

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

Sick Boy said:
Don't blame her - she'd have a better quality of life there.

I know some will come back with "but she'll be fine and won't get deported."

At first she probably wouldn't of course, but down the line? And why should she stay in a country where her kids are constantly getting racial abuse on a daily basis?

She said it was fine until just over a year ago, but now she has seen a sea change in opinion and anger.

She doesn't even go to the mosque much and is a very lapsed Muslim. Very much more sees her self as westernised

I feel so sorry for her. She's a lovely, kind human being.

Just the wrong colour.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I know some will come back with "but she'll be fine and won't get deported."

At first she probably wouldn't of course, but down the line? And why should she stay in a country where her kids are constantly getting racial abuse on a daily basis?

She said it was fine until just over a year ago, but now she has seen a sea change in opinion and anger.

She doesn't even go to the mosque much and is a very lapsed Muslim. Very much more sees her self as westernised

I feel so sorry for her. She's a lovely, kind human being.

Just the wrong colour.

You often hear a sarcastic 'doctors and nurses' comment in response to stuff like this. Which I don't really get, most people immigrating here are doing so for work or study, i.e. to contribute in some way.

chiefdave · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I know some will come back with "but she'll be fine and won't get deported."

That's a great line when its not your own life you're talking about. We've already seen things such as the amount you have to earn to get a visa massively shift. When people start making broad statements about kicking anyone in the country on a visa out its bound to be worrying for those here on a visa.

That's before you even consider how comments like that fuel racism. But of course always a step away so people like Farage can say they haven't made a racist comment while clearly whipping things up.

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

chiefdave said:
That's a great line when its not your own life you're talking about. We've already seen things such as the amount you have to earn to get a visa massively shift. When people start making broad statements about kicking anyone in the country on a visa out its bound to be worrying for those here on a visa.

That's before you even consider how comments like that fuel racism. But of course always a step away so people like Farage can say they haven't made a racist comment while clearly whipping things up.

I have no problem with people wanting to wave flags about, but surely they have seen how this is all being stoked and fired up by the likes of Farage, Musk and Robinson.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I have no problem with people wanting to wave flags about, but surely they have seen how this is all being stoked and fired up by the likes of Farage, Musk and Robinson.

As I've now been made aware on the other thread, apparently even a Union flag isn't patriotic enough.

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

I just despair sometimes .

So a girl was sexually assaulted getting off a tram in Nottingham.

The police gave a description of the suspect they are looking for. White, skinny build, about 17 years old

The amount of comments underneath the article blaming immigrants is just mind-blowing.

When one was pointed out that the person was white, a following response was "Eastern European! "

Beggars belief doesn't it.

Even though the police are saying the suspect is white, still people are saying it was an immigrant, with absolutely zero facts.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 23, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
As I've now been made aware on the other thread, apparently even a Union flag isn't patriotic enough.

A clown like yourself makes the union flag look stupid mr ‘I used to be a teacher 2 years ago’

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
A clown like yourself makes the union flag look stupid mr I used to be a teacher 2 years ago

I hope all the kids successfully got through therapy after.

Grendel · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I have no problem with people wanting to wave flags about, but surely they have seen how this is all being stoked and fired up by the likes of Farage, Musk and Robinson.

In every photo the Prime Minister has flags on both sides of him

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
I hope all the kids successfully got through therapy after.

Did you know BSB used to be a teacher 2 years ago?

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Did you know BSB used to be a teacher 2 years ago?

Yup.

Otis · Sep 23, 2025

Grendel said:
In every photo the Prime Minister has flags on both sides of him

Standing behind it for very different reasons.

Starmer isn't trying to promote hate and get people all wound up.

Grendel · Sep 23, 2025

Otis said:
Standing behind it for very different reasons.

Starmer isn't trying to promote hate and get people all wound up.

"Stop the Boats"
"Smash the Gangs"
"An Island of Strangers"

He makes immigration one of his major priorities

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