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BBC News or the one's sent down lol?
Scumbags.
Uxbridge triple stabbing: Afghan man held after dog walker dies - BBC News
The 22-year-old was arrested at the scene and remains in police custody, the Met Police says.www.bbc.co.uk
Another one down the list of breaking news on the BBC website...
Ive just seen the video footage of this incident , pretty horrificLooks like it was an Afghan national.
I am curious on what terms he was supposed to be here.
Ive just seen the video footage of this incident , pretty horrific
What the fuck is happening to this country?Looks like it was an Afghan national.
I am curious on what terms he was supposed to be here.
What lovely people these asylum seekers are!
And people stick up for them. This country is fucked!
Unfortunately the people you pointed out are born here. These unchecked immigrants carrying out murders and rapes shouldn't be let in. But i suppose you'll oppose that as normal and say it's good for cultural integration.Hull anti-migrant protestors silence grooming victim | Searchlight
Anti-migrant campaigners in Hull physically threw a rape survivor off the platform when she tried to tell the crowd she had been sexually abused not by an i ...searchlightmagazine.com
Man arrested for racially aggravated rape of Indian-origin student in UK
The assault occurred on Saturday, when the victim, a Punjabi student recently settled in the UK, was walking alone through a dimly lit street.indianexpress.com
What lovely people these whites are!
And people stick up for them. This country is fucked!
just saying lick
you seem to be saying dont help rape victims or peeple who watch there family shot at point range in front of em thats not a nice way to thinkUnfortunately the people you pointed out are born here. These unchecked immigrants carrying out murders and rapes shouldn't be let in. But i suppose you'll oppose that as normal and say it's good for cultural integration.
I havnt said that at all so why make it up. What's you view on the Afgan killing the dog walker or the Sudanese illegal killing the Walsall hotel worker. Wouldn't of happened if we weren't so soft letting these murderers in.you seem to be saying dont help rape victims or peeple who watch there family shot at point range in front of em thats not a nice way to think
I havnt said that at all so why make it up. What's you view on the Afgan killing the dog walker or the Sudanese illegal killing the Walsall hotel worker. Wouldn't of happened if we weren't so soft letting these murderers in.
Not nice when posters make random shit up is it?I havnt said that at all so why make it up. What's you view on the Afgan killing the dog walker or the Sudanese illegal killing the Walsall hotel worker. Wouldn't have happened if we weren't so soft letting these murderers in.
I just can't keep up anymore.I havnt said that at all so why make it up. What's you view on the Afgan killing the dog walker or the Sudanese illegal killing the Walsall hotel worker. Wouldn't of happened if we weren't so soft letting these murderers in.
He hasn't said that at all, so why be so antagonistic?you seem to be saying dont help rape victims or peeple who watch there family shot at point range in front of em thats not a nice way to think
Yep, ignoring the problem for too long has fuelled v dark opinions underneath legitimate concerns.There is clearly a growing problem and I’m not sure what the solution is.
I have just been in a rather long queue at the chemist and this very old guy was being messed around a bit, the chemist takes far too much on.
I said it’s always like this and he then launched into the fact that there are too many - let’s be polite and say ethnic minorities - and then said the surgery he’s been too is all blackies - blah blah
We are heading into a downward spiral here but there has to be acknowledgment that there needs to be some equilibrium and recognition of some people’s frustrations
But because immigration is such a hot topic now there are so many outlets, especially social media, looking for those cases involving immigrants that even at the BBC it reaches their feeds and they know it will generate reaction and get them views so they add it in.Yep, ignoring the problem for too long has fuelled v dark opinions underneath legitimate concerns.
The other day I was driving somewhere and BBC R2 did the headlines and it was ‘x’ asylum seeker commits a violent crime, something about world affairs and then ‘y’ asylum seeker commits a violent crime.
This isn’t Twitter rabbit holes, it’s the BBC. Some of the responses to these crimes of ‘oh this British person did a crime’ is just a disingenuous deflection tactic.
Frankly, migrants or asylum seekers who break our laws have violated their terms of their stay. Therefore, need to be deported and if the current legal framework doesn’t achieve this, that needs to be reformed.
British born criminals are obviously a scourge on society. They are fundamentally our problem that we need to deal with using the criminal justice system.
Do you acknowledge that there could be a problem at all, out of curiosity?But because immigration is such a hot topic now there are so many outlets, especially social media, looking for those cases involving immigrants that even at the BBC it reaches their feeds and they know it will generate reaction and get them views so they add it in.
There will undoubtedly be native people committing violent crime as well, but they don't generate the same interest and so don't get the focus or pushed to the top of feeds.
It's like with plane crashes etc. If there's a serious crash there'll suddenly be a few stories about plane crashes in the following weeks because it's a hot topic.
We're getting dangerously close to the "lefties aren't listening to people's concerns" shite again aren't we? If you look over my posting history on the topic you'll see numerous occasions where I agree that high levels of immigration are putting pressure on public services and provisions such as housing, education and health, purely due to extra demand being put on them (though this would also be the same for any rapid population growth, natural or imported, and I doubt many of those complaining would be as outraged if we had a high birth rate). I've also said that there are language and cultural barriers that pose problems.Do you acknowledge that there could be a problem at all, out of curiosity?
No, I don’t think this is being blown out of proportion at all and MoJ data actually supports this.We're getting dangerously close to the "lefties aren't listening to people's concerns" shite again aren't we? If you look over my posting history on the topic you'll see numerous occasions where I agree that high levels of immigration are putting pressure on public services and provisions such as housing, education and health, purely due to extra demand being put on them (though this would also be the same for any rapid population growth, natural or imported, and I doubt many of those complaining would be as outraged if we had a high birth rate). I've also said that there are language and cultural barriers that pose problems.
I've also stated in the past that immigrants convicted of serious crimes should lose their right to stay here, though there would of course be the lengthy due process of the law to go through for that to happen. I've even mooted a driving licence style points system whereby immigrants would accrue points for minor crimes and offences, and even possibly for things like not having an acceptable standard of English after a certain length of time, and if they reach a certain amount of points their right to remain here is revoked.
Do you acknowledge that the likes of Farage, Trump and the right wing media are blowing this out of proportion and reporting things inaccurately to deliberately blame immigrants to take the focus off the main problem, which is people like themselves not allowing a fairer distribution of wealth, out of curiosity?
No, I don’t think this is being blown out of proportion at all and MoJ data actually supports this.
From what I gather, you do seem to acknowledge that there’s a problem with migrant crime. Is that correct?
The secondary issue is that successive governments have shown they’re incapable of deporting migrants/asylum seekers when they commit crimes.
Farage wouldn’t be in business if one of the previous governments actually had the political will to resolve these issues. Starmer and Sunak have both made the same issue of staking their personal reputations on resolving the small boats issue and on their watches, it’s got worse.
Can't comment on the first bit, I don't have the answers.I've genuinely not looked at the figures but is migrant crime higher than crime committed by people who were born in the UK? Or is it just blown out of proportion by the populists?
EDIT: Totally disgree with the "Farage wouldn't be in business" comment. That is bollocks. He has always stoked hatred and he always will. Since BREXIT there has been a groundswell in support from people he is targetting and making angry.
I've genuinely not looked at the figures but is migrant crime higher than crime committed by people who were born in the UK? Or is it just blown out of proportion by the populists?
EDIT: Totally disgree with the "Farage wouldn't be in business" comment. That is bollocks. He has always stoked hatred and he always will. Since BREXIT there has been a groundswell in support from people he is targetting and making angry.
Can’t have it both ways unfortunately. you either get “justice” and house the cost, or we deport and they go “free”The guy who was jailed (sex offender a week after arriving) and then was released in error has now been deported.
I know people want these kind deported, but where is the justice? Yes we're incurring cost to keep him in jail, but he's now basically free only a month after being convicted of serious offences and sentenced to 12 months. What about justice for the victims?
He's also been given £500 to 'ease deportation'. Not only is that a complete joke when we have a homeless problem who can't get handouts like that, but he'll probably use it to come back again. Had £75 when wrongly released last week that he spent too.
I've genuinely not looked at the figures but is migrant crime higher than crime committed by people who were born in the UK? Or is it just blown out of proportion by the populists?
EDIT: Totally disgree with the "Farage wouldn't be in business" comment. That is bollocks. He has always stoked hatred and he always will. Since BREXIT there has been a groundswell in support from people he is targetting and making angry.
It depends what criminal offences you are talking about, and the figures also vary based on country.
For example, people from Luxembourg in the UK will commit less crime, but people from Afghanistan significantly more.
Unsurprisingly, those from countries or religious backgrounds that treat women like second class citizens are overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. Here is a good example:
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There were 87 nationalities with a higher conviction rate for sexual offences than the British population. In 2024, these nationalities were awarded 557,041 long-term visas by the Home Office. (Source)
Where did it say he’d been given £500?The guy who was jailed (sex offender a week after arriving) and then was released in error has now been deported.
I know people want these kind deported, but where is the justice? Yes we're incurring cost to keep him in jail, but he's now basically free only a month after being convicted of serious offences and sentenced to 12 months. What about justice for the victims?
He's also been given £500 to 'ease deportation'. Not only is that a complete joke when we have a homeless problem who can't get handouts like that, but he'll probably use it to come back again. Had £75 when wrongly released last week that he spent too.
Where did it say he’d been given £500?
Pretty much any country that records nationality of offenders finds the same reoccurring patterns. There’s a much higher levels of criminality and welfare dependency from nations and regions of the world that are poorer and more violent. Which is not unexpected.It depends what criminal offences you are talking about, and the figures also vary based on country.
For example, people from Luxembourg in the UK will commit less crime, but people from Afghanistan significantly more.
Unsurprisingly, those from countries or religious backgrounds that treat women like second class citizens are overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. Here is a good example:
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There were 87 nationalities with a higher conviction rate for sexual offences than the British population. In 2024, these nationalities were awarded 557,041 long-term visas by the Home Office. (Source)
Ah, so he caused a huge fuss about boarding the plane and they gave him £500 to behave. Will keep that in mind for my next holidayPretty easy to find!
Hadush Kebatu: Migrant sex offender given £500 after threat to disrupt deportation
Hadush Kebatu was given the money to avoid a "slower, more expensive process", Downing Street said.www.bbc.co.uk
Sure, then imagine being a law abiding Afghan being denied entry because some of his compatriots are criminals.Pretty much any country that records nationality of offenders finds the same reoccurring patterns. There’s a much higher levels of criminality and welfare dependency from nations and regions of the world that are poorer and more violent. Which is not unexpected.
For example, you’re just not going to see Japanese migrants be overrepresented in crime statistics. Afghan, Syrian, Somalia (to name a few) are almost always overrepresented in these statistics.
It isn’t racist or ‘stoking hatred’ to point that out. You use data to make informed decisions and in this case, there needs to be a highly selective system of who is granted entry. It really is as simple as that.
Ah, so he caused a huge fuss about boarding the plane and they gave him £500 to behave. Will keep that in mind for my next holiday
Never done an all inclusive, won’t start nowNothing beats a Jet2 holiday.
Ah, so he caused a huge fuss about boarding the plane and they gave him £500 to behave. Will keep that in mind for my next holiday
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