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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #526
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #527
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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Fucking comical "Here you go Mr Rapist that shouldn't even be here anyway, we're going to open the door, here's £75, see how far you can get." Like a reality show ffs.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #528
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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I understand why released prisoners get some pocket money to start them off, but it does make you question how much that migrant who got returned in the 'one in one out' scheme got given, and how much of that went straight to the people smugglers to bring him back again.

The incompetence of the UK at the moment is genuinely quite unbelievable.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #529
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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Huh
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #530
Sky Blue Pete said:
Huh
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Sorry Pete?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #531
Marty said:
It's not even difficult to get sorted, get a squad of immigration coppers down outside the KFC on the Burgess and I bet you'd catch shit loads. Seize all assets/funds and send them on the next flight home.
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I personally have my doubts that people want to see this kind of stuff (as we’ve seen in the US) in this country.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #532
Grendel said:
Sorry Pete?
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You think prisoners should just be turfed out and told to get on with it?
mmmmm
Wonder why reoffending rates are off the chart
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #533
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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Wouldn’t have lasted him long in Dalston these days!

I suppose a case of mistaken identity might explain why he was both released and given the money. Unless it was just the prison giving him access to his own funds again?
 

Major Tom

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #534
Sky Blue Pete said:
You think prisoners should just be turfed out and told to get on with it?
mmmmm
Wonder why reoffending rates are off the chart
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Maybe people should try and get an understanding of the wider issue rather than just surmised or repeat rhetoric.

I have done some work with this charity in London who support offenders when they are released. The personal stories are insightful, heartbreaking but also the success that charities like St Giles achieve save lives and wider the tax payer millions in the long term.

have a read or even better get involved.

https://www.stgilestrust.org.uk/
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #535
Major Tom said:
Maybe people should try and get an understanding of the wider issue rather than just surmised or repeat rhetoric.

I have done some work with this charity in London who support offenders when they are released. The personal stories are insightful, heartbreaking but also the success that charities like St Giles achieve save lives and wider the tax payer millions in the long term.

have a read or even better get involved.

https://www.stgilestrust.org.uk/
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That’s great work mate
Good for you
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #536
TomRad85 said:
Fucking comical "Here you go Mr Rapist that shouldn't even be here anyway, we're going to open the door, here's £75, see how far you can get." Like a reality show ffs.
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It was like an episode of Hunted
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #537
oscillatewildly said:
There were two world wars fought last century for lesser reasons.
I think the promotion celebration bus may well stay parked in the garage although for different reasons offered on a recently created 'controversial' thread.
Still, every (mushroom) cloud - All you top loyalty point holders will no doubt pull a cushy desk job back here in blighty.
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Grendel said:
He’s been caught!
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Allegedly off again - This time on a genuine technicality as the apprehending officer didn’t say ‘tig’ when he grabbed him.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #538
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m very interested to know why it did happen at all in all seriousness.
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It was an admin error. He was supposed to be getting deported and somebody fucked up the paperwork.

Apparently there is a new process being put in place from tomorrow to stop this happening but as with so many things you look at the number of times this has happened and wonder why nothing was done before.
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #539
SBT said:
I personally have my doubts that people want to see this kind of stuff (as we’ve seen in the US) in this country.
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We have it already, our version is the Immigration Compliance and Enforcement team. But unlike the US ICE the aren't allowed to grab people off the street with little more than the colour of their skin as the reason.

The number of raids they do has been massively increased, up 50%, and in line with that the number of arrests has increased 75% but now here's where you'll see the problem. The new, increased, numbers equate to around 800 raids leading to around 600 arrests. It's a drop in the ocean, no pun intended.

Then you've got the issue that it's not as simple as rounding people up and deporting them.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 26, 2025
  • #540
chiefdave said:
We have it already, our version is the Immigration Compliance and Enforcement team. But unlike the US ICE the aren't allowed to grab people off the street with little more than the colour of their skin as the reason.
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Reform will no doubt insist on copying the current US Republican strategy - they do for everything else - but I don’t think either Reform or the general British public truly appreciate how ugly and violent (and expensive!) it has to get for it to be properly enforced.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #541

Home Office 'squandered billions' on asylum accommodation, MPs say

"Flawed contracts" and "incompetent delivery" left the department unable to cope with demand for asylum accommodation, a report by MPs suggests.
www.bbc.co.uk
and of course the old favourite
The report said the contracts drawn up for accommodation providers under the Conservatives had been flawed and that "inadequate oversight" had meant failings went "unnoticed and unaddressed".

Expected costs for hotel contracts from 2019-2029 have risen from £4.5bn to £15.3bn, while two accommodation providers still owe millions in excess profits that the Home Office has not recovered, the report found.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #542
rob9872 said:
Shoot the dinghys 100 yards from France and chuck them life jackets. They'll swim back 100 yards rather than forwards 26 miles.
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I think France might have something to say about us shooting at boats in their waters.

And I think we might have some questions to answer at the ICC when at least some of those on the boats inevitably die.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #543
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I think France might have something to say about us shooting at boats in their waters.

And I think we might have some questions to answer at the ICC when at least some of those on the boats inevitably die.
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I'm not sure we should involve cricket.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #544
chiefdave said:

Home Office 'squandered billions' on asylum accommodation, MPs say

"Flawed contracts" and "incompetent delivery" left the department unable to cope with demand for asylum accommodation, a report by MPs suggests.
www.bbc.co.uk
and of course the old favourite
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The home office hasn’t been fit for purpose for 20+ years. In any other organisation there’d have been a massive clear out. Read this last week

Shabana Mahmood says Home Office 'not yet fit for purpose' - BBC News

The home secretary's response comes after The Times revealed a report calling the Home Office “dysfunctional”.
www.bbc.co.uk

The culture across the board just sounds wrong to me and I get the impression the HO just does what they want rather than what the government, who were democratically voted in, have promised/trying to deliver.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #545
CCFCSteve said:
The home office hasn’t been fit for purpose for 20+ years. In any other organisation there’d have been a massive clear out. Read this last week

Shabana Mahmood says Home Office 'not yet fit for purpose' - BBC News

The home secretary's response comes after The Times revealed a report calling the Home Office “dysfunctional”.
www.bbc.co.uk

The culture across the board just sounds wrong to me and I get the impression the HO just does what they want rather than what the government, who were democratically voted in, have promised/trying to deliver.
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It is easy and convenient to blame people who don’t have the right of reply though isn’t it?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #546
CCFCSteve said:
The home office hasn’t been fit for purpose for 20+ years. In any other organisation there’d have been a massive clear out.
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I mean, this one was another story that felt like it could have been parody.

Home Office fails to collect 'basic information' about UK visa holders, MPs warn

An inquiry has revealed that data on whether someone left the UK after their visa expired was not collected by the government
www.standard.co.uk
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #547
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I mean, this one was another story that felt like it could have been parody.

Home Office fails to collect 'basic information' about UK visa holders, MPs warn

An inquiry has revealed that data on whether someone left the UK after their visa expired was not collected by the government
www.standard.co.uk
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Isn't that literally straight out of the Thick Of It?

 
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wingy

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #548
rob9872 said:
I'm not sure we should involve cricket.
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It's just Not Cricket,ok!
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #549
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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Keep the economy ticking doesn't it?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #550
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
As someone alluded to above, the mistaken prisoner released numbers are mental. (Source)

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How on earth does that happen? The almost exponential growth is amazing, be interesting to see if it has grown as a proportion of the total number released or whether it just looks inflated because a lot more prisoners were released 24/25 in the early release scheme.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #551
Grendel said:
Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
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The alternative is that somebody is released without a penny so their first resort is further crime.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #552
fernandopartridge said:
The alternative is that somebody is released without a penny so their first resort is further crime.
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It's a fair point


Mind, he could always use that £75 to buy himself a crowbar and ski mask.
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #553
As opposed to having £75, spending it, and then committing further crime
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #554
rob9872 said:
As opposed to having £75, spending it, and then committing further crime
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But it wouldn't be a necessity, would it?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #555
fernandopartridge said:
But it wouldn't be a necessity, would it?
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But they're released onto the street with no accommodation, i'd have thought a roof and a meal for a period of time until they can adjust to be more useful. Such an odd figure to come up with. Could be £1,000 and still not enough not to commit crime but I don't know the science behind why £75 and not £50 or £100. If they're going to be the type that goes back to crime, then I'm not sure £75 makes a difference at all.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #556
For many years, until it eventually closed, my wife and I volunteered at weekends for a charity which provided hot meals and companionship to the homeless and poorly housed. At least a third - and probably closer to half - of our clients were newly-released prisoners.

It seemed to me that most of them had a genuine desire to go straight but it was difficult, because of their criminal record, to get employment. That's why I respect Timpsons, who have a good track record for helping offenders to rehabilitate themselves.
 
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RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2025
  • #557
Fair play Timpsons, though having burglars cut keys for houses is quite ironic.
 
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ccfc1292

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2025
  • #558
Took a lot of searching on BBC News for this one, lots of sub sections to find it from main page :

 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2025
  • #559
ccfc1292 said:
Took a lot of searching on BBC News for this one, lots of sub sections to find it from main page :

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Scumbags.
 

ccfc1292

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2025
  • #560

Uxbridge triple stabbing: Afghan man held after dog walker dies - BBC News

The 22-year-old was arrested at the scene and remains in police custody, the Met Police says.
www.bbc.co.uk

Another one down the list of breaking news on the BBC website...
 
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