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Gynnsthetonic said:

God's dad?

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Sounds a bit noncey in front of his lad.

Gynnsthetonic said:

God's dad?

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Well, yeah and I have no problem with him, but the granddad is as dodgy as f*ck.

rob9872 said:

Sounds a bit noncey in front of his lad.

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Especially if he's told to kneel before God.

DT-R said:

But which of the approximate 3000 gods created the world? Surely it was only 1? Or all? Or none? How are there so many all-knowing creators? Did they all create the world for their own followers? They all just happened to create the same world and put all their different followers in different locations? What if a King (Henry 8th) created a religion and not a God? Does that religion still have a god? Or did god condemn any followers of the king to hell? Where is hell? Because if that's to be believed, heaven is an outer space, other worldly place. Whereas hell is the fires within the earth's crust. If that's true, then we're all much closer to hell than we are heaven?

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With the Kings, at the time there were considered to be anointed by God and so therefore God spoke through them and what they wanted was what God wanted. It's never explained why there a re different Kings in differently places or why God tells them all different things. Of course for Henry it was literally just to get a divorce and swag a load of riches from the Church. And if no rich man can enter the Kingdom of God, why are Kings rich?

As others have said, the Bible is full of some mad shit, and some very unsavoury elements to that clearly show that women are barely considered human. They're property of men. That's what marriage traditionally is - transfer of ownership of the women from the father to the husband.

To be fair there are some elements I think might be explainable but details have been missed out, like walking on water. I can even see how people could be said to live to over 800 years old. But there's so much that is just crazy.

I don't believe in a God/Gods because I have respect for the idea of an omniscient creator(s), and I can't believe if you're all knowing THIS is the ideal. Why create all these things and then make most of them have to eat each other to survive?

Regarding Abrahamic religions, pretty much the first rule is thou shalt have no other God but me, but if you can literally control everything, why let people even be able to comprehend other Gods? Why not just prove your existence and stop any argument? And if you kill almost everyone for straying from that that just makes you seem insecure and psychopathic.

And if you're creating EVERYTHING, why would the last thing you create be the thing that looked like you? Surely, you start with what you know and then get creative. If I was asked to design a car or a house, I'd start with what I know a car and a house look like. But no, apparently He can come up with a giraffe and a duck billed platypus before something that looks like Him.

My previous signature was "and on the sixth day, man created God in his image." That's the only explanation. Everything is about human beings who want power and using people's greatest fear (death) to control them by saying they'll be rewarded once they're dead if they do what those people say, or will be punished in death if they don't.

Of course it stills leaves you wondering where all of this comes from. I'm now at a point where, on the very, very tiny chance there were some sort of 'creator', we would in fact be a science experiment and 'Gods' put some elements in a petri dish we call the universe and is just seeing what happens. You can pray all you like - no-one's going to help. And also opens the possibility of endless 'alternate universes' where the same experiment in being run. But then that doesn't explain what created the scientist Gods?

rob9872 said:

So I'm late to to the party, but from a brief catch up ... some are saying Islam is full of cunts and the counter argument to it is 'yeah but Christianity is also full of cunts'?

Ok, nothing for me here, back to the Red Zone!

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Wait till you hear about Scientology and the Mormon faith.