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Discussion in 'Wasps' started by Grendel, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. Grendel

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    Good to see he still makes stuff up.

    He was banned because he was openly unwilling to discuss CCFC and only wanted to talk about Wasps. I did him a favour as he is now in the right place for that.
     
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    No winners in this debacle. Shit situation all round.
     
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    Why is he talking as if he's not Italia?
     
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    I don’t actually agree with the decision to ban him
     
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    Are you missing him as he was easy meat
     
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    You banned him? That's very petty nick
     
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    There has been some pretty offensive stuff posted on here disguised as opinion - to ban him seems a bit extreme, as all he was doing was offering a view on how he sees the club working with Wasps (my opinion on this is that Italia was a bit naive in this view), and stood his ground.

    One of the reasons I didn't post on here for a few months was that I was appalled that a moderator thought it would be fun to try and promote a sick joke thread just a after the Manchester bombing (using other sick joke fora as examples of how much fun it can be), . When I pointed out on the thread that this is not the forum for any of that (if you like that sort of thing, then join specific for this stuff) ,, he quickly edited his post and ridiculed me. I didn't bother to complain as Nick had already joined in the thread and it was started by a moderator in the first place.
     
  9. Nick

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    He was banned because he repeatedly said he had no interest in discussing CCFC. I said to him multiple times both privately and in threads that he is more than welcome to discuss Wasps if he is at least discussing CCFC as well but if he isn't bothering with anything to do with CCFC then he will be banned the same as the others who signed up just to post Wasps propaganda were.

    He had been asked repeatedly over about 3 months. He had no intention to.

    Now he benefits because he only wanted to discuss Wasps so he can with other Wasps fans. He had plenty of chances to discuss CCFC with a side helping of Wasps on here but wasn't interested.
     
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    Which was that?
     
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    Have look yourself - I haven't made it up (hint - it was just after the Manchester bombing, and ask your mate RIch why he chose to start it, and ask yourself why you joined in as soon as it was started, rather than didn't delete it)
     
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    I didn't say you had made it up, I was just asking for more information.

    If it's the one I remember you tried to make out it was done to generate traffic and I was in on it because I openly disagreed with it after Rich posted something? As if it was all arranged before hand to get traffic?
     
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    You run this site. If you openly disagreed with it (which in my view you didn't), then you should have deleted it.
     
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    I don't agree when people have nothing else about them other than to try and come out with shite like "It was done to generate traffic" when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about either.

    The site is very loosely moderated and always has been, Italia would have been banned months ago on most forums that are more strict.

    If you want to flounce because of it and because people you speak to have a dim view of the site then that's up to you. If you want to think it's all a massive ploy to get traffic then again that's up to you. You didn't get the point of the thread that somebody else made and what they were trying to say (maybe it could have been worded better to make it clearer).

    You could have easily sent a PM or asked for it to be removed (plenty of people do and things get sorted) and it would have been sorted, you made something up though instead and had a rant about trying to generate traffic and had a flounce about reputation and what your friends had told you.
     
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    Your reply is typical and not unexpected.
    The sort of language Trump would use - "Rant" and "Flounce" - making an observation and having a point of view. Not everyone likes to argue Nick, but it seems to be what makes SBT tick a majority of the time, which is unfortunate. I signed up to find out more about CCFC - and sometimes it does this (in my humble opinion).

    I could have PM'd at the time (and as you may know, have done on a few occasions), but if I recall I'd had enough of the bickering (and some of the usual suspects), with the thread in question and attitude of the moderators making me think it really wasn't worth getting involved anymore - I simply logged out and got on with my day, or "flounced" as you would have it.



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    If you had sent a pm it would have been dealt with more effectively than if you say random things like it was done to generate traffic. I've deleted I have posted myself if somebody has said it's a bit too much. There's no issue with that, whoever posted it.

    The bickering has probably gone down ten fold in the last couple of months too.
     
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    No it hasn't..!!! ;);)
     
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    A non CCFC thread talking about a ban for non CCFC chat......wowzer.
     
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    Did you ever try and engage with Italia in a reasoned and intelligent way? I did and it went absolutely nowhere and just became a tired old charade of him posting the same old clichés.
    He had no intention of posting anything on CCFC and just continually posted a diatribe of pro Wasps garbage onto the CCFC threads.

    I am sure I am not the only one who got sick of the continual ignoring of factual information by Italia to promote whatever agenda he thought he had, and I certainly got sick of him crying wolf when people abused him, whilst he abused others. I think the old saying about people in glasshouses was specifically written for Italia.

    I don't therefore think it was petty to ban Italia. If he offered any reasoned debate then yes it would have been, but he stopped doing that a long time ago and the site is more refreshing less his propaganda.
     
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    That applies to a fair few posters on here, mind...

    Look, at times he could be an arse, but he's as entitled to his view as anybody else. When it came to us moving to Northampton, those who defended it would have been banned by many if they had the chance... but quite rightly weren't. They had a perfectly valid right to an opinion, the same as Italia has a perfectly valid right to his opinion about Wasps... even if it is mindless bollocks. He's not alone in writing mindless bollocks on a message board, mind you!

    There's a lot more offensive stuff on other threads, and if it's pre-season it's kind of hard to comment about players and games. Indeed, in not commenting about Bakayoko before seeing him play, he'd have been doing the appropriate thing, surely? ;) If not at the game, what *can* you do other than engage in the politics side of it all and, like it or not, Wasps and their existence here is that.

    As soon as you stop one view being heard, where do you stop?
     
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    But there is posting one view eg) on Wasps amongst posts of other views eg) CCFC, as opposed to posting the same tired old one eyed diatribe over and over again.
    If you aren't prepared to post any other views on any other posts, particularly CCFC ones which is really why we are all here, then your habitual rinse and repeat of the same lines becomes nothing more than a complete joke.
     
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    But he has over the years posted a fair amount of CCFC. It's not like he just popped on to post Wasps.

    And if he's got nothing to say about CCFC atm, why should he have to just to justify his existence? He's not alone around here in posting on the predominantly non-CCFC threads. To name names would be disengenuous, but there are some who would prob ably deserve a ban if that was consistent...

    (If it was down to me, I'd ban the bloody lot of you, mind!)
     
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    No one has said he has to justify his existence, but I would ask if he has stated his refusal to post on CCFC, and it being a CCFC forum, what's the point of him being here?

    That's my view, it wont change, I respect you disagree, but I got tired of reading the same shit over and over again from Italia whilst trying reasoned and evidenced debate with him, whilst he posted his own opinion as constant fact.

    I love CCFC, but also like Rugby and his utter drivel about Wasps and the game make me feel relieved to not see his bullshit anymore.

    At the end of the day, its not my site, and I abide by the rules. If people don't like it they are free to start their own forum, so whilst Italia whines and bitches on the Wasps site, he could instead put his time to better use and start his own forum.

    If it was down to you, ban me first.....for my sanity ;)
     
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    There are huge amounts of drivel on here, and 100% of it is stuff I disagree with. The stuff I do agree with is posted by highly intelligent posters who see things the right way.... co-incidence?? ;)

    I don't get to may games now, so rarely post on anything to do with tactics, players etc, but will chip in on other things.

    The point is, if you don't like what he posts, then block him.

    For me, he's a CCFC fan, so should be welcome on here, whatever his point of view may be. There are far more important lines, that if crossed, should lead to a ban.
     
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    Can we do what the ancient Athenians did and have a weekly vote with the 'winner' being banned for that week?
     
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    To be honest blocked or not, I thought he was very capable of intelligent debate but hadn't done so for months and months. Its tiring posting on a subject just to be continually met with the same barrage of crap.
    Personally I don't care either way whether he was banned or not, I just don't think it was a petty move as I can see the reasons why Nick did it, whether you, I, or others agree or disagree.
     
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    It's Nick's call at the end of the day, but I'd have left him on personally. The bloke did my tits in often enough, but he was generally well-mannered about it at least.

    Plus he was a useful early warning system - when he popped up unannounced you always knew that the Wasps PR machine was about to wind up into overdrive about something a bit suspect. :)

    I imagine this is how Batman feels without The Joker. ;)
     
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    A like for that! ;)
     
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    I suppose a week or two off would do me good...
     
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    I liked italia he gave Grendel something to play with
     
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