If you were offered second now ... (14 Viewers)

[Adge]

I hate to break it to you lads but this season is probably as good as it’s going to get as a city fan. Enjoy it while it lasts cos we’ll be getting pumped more than Bonnie Blue if we go up then we’ll be entitled parachute fans when we come down again.

Yep-some substance to that. Mate of mine regularly goes to Ipswich and says the journey is better than the destination in reality when gaining promotion from the Championship.
I guess we all just have to accept that if we do make it it will be the reality of a few 4-5 nil batterings.

 

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[Covkid1968#]

I want to see the silver...I want the open top bus...I want it added to the list of titles we have won.

So no I wouldn't take 2nd now...even if ultimately we were to fail

 

[robbiethemole]

This might make it easier to accept 2nd :-

According to Deloitte, promotion to the Premier League can see an increase in revenue of between £135 million and £265 million depending on if the team can avoid an immediate return to the Championship.

 

[Skybluedownunder]

Nothing, nothing, and some extra TV / gate revenue for the latter.

Na surely not. They call the playoff final the richest game in football. Something like £90m for the winner I remember reading when we played Luton but what does that look like for 1st and 2nd? Do they get more or less.


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[SonofErnie]

Na surely not. They call the playoff final the richest game in football. Something like £90m for the winner I remember reading when we played Luton but what does that look like for 1st and 2nd? Do they get more or less.


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It's based on earnings from playing in the Premier league, so it would be the same. It just rides on a single game rather than the position at the end of the season.

 

[MikeyMoo]

More silverware would be good, as I like the idea of us as a club that is building a large collection. The question of 1st/2nd is in the air because most pundits still predict Ipswich will win the league. We play them twice in a row, in essence, in December, this means in either scenario where we make automatic promotion, these are the 12 points that will most likely determine as to which spot we finish in. So what we need is 3 good results (WBA/Borough/Charlton) in the run up to Dec 6, then whatever the result of that fixture, 4 good results before Dec 29. Even then there's still 21 games to go, Championship is just relentless, but we'll have the January transfer window ahead, and decisions about what to do with the FA cup. Just play the 2nd XI and hope they keep winning, to keep them fresh in case of league injuries?

 

[Sick Boy]

The money from going up would be transformative for us. We'd probably need to aim to be a yo-yo club for a while before trying to establish ourselves up there....for a few seasons.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The money from going up would be transformative for us. We'd probably need to aim to be a yo-yo club for a while before trying to establish ourselves up there....for a few seasons.

Yep if you play your cards right it will absolutely be transformative

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

More silverware would be good, as I like the idea of us as a club that is building a large collection. The question of 1st/2nd is in the air because most pundits still predict Ipswich will win the league. We play them twice in a row, in essence, in December, this means in either scenario where we make automatic promotion, these are the 12 points that will most likely determine as to which spot we finish in. So what we need is 3 good results (WBA/Borough/Charlton) in the run up to Dec 6, then whatever the result of that fixture, 4 good results before Dec 29. Even then there's still 21 games to go, Championship is just relentless, but we'll have the January transfer window ahead, and decisions about what to do with the FA cup. Just play the 2nd XI and hope they keep winning, to keep them fresh in case of league injuries?

The bookies have now switched to thinking that we're favourites for the league with Ipswich second, but I still expect that their better squad depth will see them to top spot.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The bookies have now switched to thinking that we're favourites for the league with Ipswich second, but I still expect that their better squad depth will see them to top spot.

Boo!!!

 

[robbiethemole]

sorry, I'm still not seeing how they are favs!!! 11 points behind and massive inferior GD, they would have to win every game 2or 3 nil and we would have to have a massive drop off. Plus do you think every team in between us will also collapse?? They have to get past everybody! On their boards it's split between delusional League winners and realistic iffy start but maybe play-offs.

 

[skybluelee]

sorry, I'm still not seeing how they are favs!!! 11 points behind and massive inferior GD, they would have to win every game 2or 3 nil and we would have to have a massive drop off. Plus do you think every team in between us will also collapse?? They have to get past everybody! On their boards it's split between delusional League winners and realistic iffy start but maybe play-offs.

They're not. We are overwhelming favourites to win the league with the bookies as it stands.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

sorry, I'm still not seeing how they are favs!!! 11 points behind and massive inferior GD, they would have to win every game 2or 3 nil and we would have to have a massive drop off. Plus do you think every team in between us will also collapse?? They have to get past everybody! On their boards it's split between delusional League winners and realistic iffy start but maybe play-offs.

The bookies now have us as title favourites, but I just think that quality in depth counts a lot over a whole season. If we get to January still top of the table however, I don't see us getting dislodged.

 

[robbiethemole]

sorry yeah, maybe my wording, I don't see how they get to autos and above us is what I meant

 

[oakey]

For me, it's the trophy itself which I think is the old one?
When I was a child in the 70s (first match Boxing Day 1970) the football league trophy was the ultimate, along with the FA cup. It was unthinkable that CCFC would ever win it.
When we won the cup in 87, I shouted up to George Curtis on the open top bus, "We want the league now!"
He laughed and replied, "You don't want much, do you?"
Now I know it's not the top league any more.
And yet ...
The thought that my beloved Sky Blues can hold up that league trophy is mesmeric.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Na surely not. They call the playoff final the richest game in football. Something like £90m for the winner I remember reading when we played Luton but what does that look like for 1st and 2nd? Do they get more or less.


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That's what it's worth to get into the PL - not what anybody receives from the play off final game. You get no more for finishing 2nd in The Championship, than you do for finishing 20th. It's merely the promotion to the money pot of the PL.

 

[CovRes]

That's what it's worth to get into the PL - not what anybody receives from the play off final game. You get no more for finishing 2nd in The Championship, than you do for finishing 20th. It's merely the promotion to the money pot of the PL.

By tradition, the winning team passes on the prize money to the losing team. We made several million when we lost to Luton.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

By tradition, the winning team passes on the prize money to the losing team

What prize money? The only income can be from the gate receipts. Plus anything form the TV. You don't actually receive anything for winning/participating.

 

[CovRes]

What prize money? The only income can be from the gate receipts. Plus anything form the TV. You don't actually receive anything for winning/participating.

Perhaps it is just that. But there was an article at the time about how we "benefited" from their win. I may have misremembered the details.

 

[Paxman II]

Who cares? Automatic promotion via an offide goal or whatever we would all take. Come on now.
As for getting thrashed if we go up? Utter nonsense. Sunderland doing well and we have some very good talent now not to mention strong additions being added should we make it.

 

[clint van damme]

What prize money? The only income can be from the gate receipts. Plus anything form the TV. You don't actually receive anything for winning/participating.

Fairly sure there's a pot divided up between the 4 teams plus associated add ons and tradition is the winners give theirs to the runners up though I've no idea what that amounts to

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Fairly sure there's a pot divided up between the 4 teams plus associated add ons and tradition is the winners give theirs to the runners up though I've no idea what that amounts to

Think that is all gate receipts (and perhaps TV). I read that Huddersfield gave Reading £4m after they won it (pre-agreement). I suppose clubs can do that, but bar dividing up gate receipts, clubs don't receive anything from the EFL for winning the play offs/winning the league etc.