if we are skint.... (1 Viewer)

OyJimmy · Mar 7, 2013

How come we can afford to pay Falkirk for access to SP and how are we able to fund one of the largest wage bills in the league? These questions should concern us as much as they must concern ACL.....

Grendel · Mar 7, 2013

OyJimmy said:
How come we can afford to pay Falkirk for access to SP and how are we able to fund one of the largest wage bills in the league? These questions should concern us as much as they must concern ACL.....

Why and who gives a stuff what ACL think.

skybluesam66 · Mar 7, 2013

£100k apparently. wouldnt be surprised if we get huddersfield to pay them directly (or via a sisu account) to stop acl getting their hands on the robins' compensation

Danceswithhorses · Mar 7, 2013

A couple of posters on here last night were saying that Elvis had a gentleman's agreement with Falkirk's chairman, and there was no compensation....was that wrong then ?

Mucca Mad Boys · Mar 7, 2013

OyJimmy said:
How come we can afford to pay Falkirk for access to SP and how are we able to fund one of the largest wage bills in the league? These questions should concern us as much as they must concern ACL.....

We have to wait for some contracts to expire because no one wants, say, Wood or McSheffrey that's why our top earners are still here.

I may have misjudged, but, why are you saying this as if it's a bad thing? I might be wrong, but I guess you were one of the 1st people to moan about lack of investment?

torchomatic · Mar 7, 2013

Well, I imagine SISU pay Falkirk directly and then invoice the Club which will be paid at a later date. It's all their money anyway at the end of the day.

However it works I'm pleased to see us going after someone they apparently wanted rather than taking the easy option and giving it to someone out of work.

Yet to be confirmed, of course.

Sick Boy · Mar 7, 2013

Danceswithhorses said:
A couple of posters on here last night were saying that Elvis had a gentleman's agreement with Falkirk's chairman, and there was no compensation....was that wrong then ?

No it wasn't.

RoboCCFC90 · Mar 7, 2013

OyJimmy said:
How come we can afford to pay Falkirk for access to SP and how are we able to fund one of the largest wage bills in the league? These questions should concern us as much as they must concern ACL.....

I don't think are owners are as poor as they make out and everyone believes..

aviles · Mar 7, 2013

sisu know what they are doing. remember this comments in 7 years time when we are in the champions league. IN SISU WE TRUST

kingharvest · Mar 7, 2013

SISU aren't skint, CCFC are. Big difference. But the business model, one partially imposed on them by the football league, and to be honest, just sensible, is that the football club should be financially viable and, Like any business, live within its means. Businesses don't just get propped up by their owners all the time, they want the club to be self sufficient.

Every now and then, the owner may invest - or be forced to dip into - their own money in order to move it forward/keep it going.

oldskyblue58 · Mar 7, 2013

skybluesam66 said:
£100k apparently. wouldnt be surprised if we get huddersfield to pay them directly (or via a sisu account) to stop acl getting their hands on the robins' compensation

Wouldnt recommend that as it would be illegal............. the 3rd Party debtor order is on Huddersfield so the money owed to CCFC is frozen in their hands not CCFC's. Can not be paid out until decided in court 02/05/13

BrisbaneBronco · Mar 7, 2013

kingharvest said:
SISU aren't skint, CCFC are. Big difference. But the business model, one partially imposed on them by the football league, and to be honest, just sensible, is that the football club should be financially viable and, Like any business, live within its means. Businesses don't just get propped up by their owners all the time, they want the club to be self sufficient.

Every now and then, the owner may invest - or be forced to dip into - their own money in order to move it forward/keep it going.

Exactly. SISU are not broke, CCFC are. SISU have ploughed 45m into the club to keep it alive. Their objective is to see CCFC stand on its own feet. Outside sources are making this virtually impossible. Am sure something major will happen soon to break the impasse.
Still hate SISU btw

OyJimmy · Mar 7, 2013

So if you were running ACL (in the interests of ACL) would you roll over for SISU? Or would you now enforce the contract and demand the money owed knowing that SISU are willing to fund things like this?

BrisbaneBronco · Mar 7, 2013

OyJimmy said:
So if you were running ACL (in the interests of ACL) would you roll over for SISU? Or would you now enforce the contract and demand the money owed knowing that SISU are willing to fund things like this?

Surely ACL would expect SISU to appoint the best manager they can, and if that happens to be SP, then so be it. The money to do this has probably come from other sources thanks to ACL having our accounts frozen. As for the rent, if I were ACL and acting in the best interests, I would look at a way to work the rent issue out so that CCFC remains at the Ricoh.

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 7, 2013

kingharvest said:
SISU aren't skint, CCFC are. Big difference. But the business model, one partially imposed on them by the football league, and to be honest, just sensible, is that the football club should be financially viable and, Like any business, live within its means. Businesses don't just get propped up by their owners all the time, they want the club to be self sufficient.

Every now and then, the owner may invest - or be forced to dip into - their own money in order to move it forward/keep it going.

That said if you want to sign a player for 10m, that comes down to how much money you have and how ambitious you are-has nowt to do with the FFP regulations.

sw88 · Mar 7, 2013

Players and staff are still being paid so there must be an account that allows funds to go outwards! Guess that one wi be used for the compo

skybluesteve76 · Mar 7, 2013

Who said we were skint?

Simply the best
Better than all the rest

RichieGunns · Mar 7, 2013

sw88 said:
Players and staff are still being paid so there must be an account that allows funds to go outwards! Guess that one wi be used for the compo

As I said on the other page,

The third Party Debt order froze the money that was in the accounts when it was issued.

Any money going in after that point isn't part of the order so therefore cannot be claimed by ACL and the Council.

So any money they earn from ticket sales etc since the Debt Order is there's (SISU's) to do with as they please!

And I agree, I don't believe they are skint, not yet anyway :/

Stafford_SkBlue · Mar 7, 2013

Self Sufficient - guess all football club owners dream of!! Need some success to achieve larger gates, or gates > then budget for. Some success requires investment, more success requires further investment and so on. QPR £90m in debt to achieve premier status - relegation will cause them a few problems.

OyJimmy · Mar 7, 2013

ACL aren't stupid. They will soon clock that SISU are prepared to fund the club indirectly and will then tell SISU to pay them or watch their investment in CCFC turn to dust.

If SISU are serious about trying to get their way with ACL then they shouldn't pay the players/ Falkirk for their manager and then call their bluff. As it is ACL can see their 'tell' quite easily!

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