I think we are relegated now and its all SISU fault (3 Viewers)

Glen

Member
Yes Thorn ws great last year but with no backing all summer and one cheap, but hopefully good signing, but we are going to finish bottom.
Bristol new manager lots more points
Doncaster doing what we should get free agents in
then us bottom at end of season and well bottom in my opinion.
 

gouldberg

New Member
To be honest with Sisu still at the helm I'm resigned to us being a League 1 club next season. I've already spoke to family I have in Bournemouth about stopping there the night when we play them. I can't see any positives at all. The only positives we have are players who will soon be on their way.

We don't own our ground, don't own our training facilities, we're losing more money than my dad during a game of monopoly and to be quite honest I don't think Sisu could care less.
 

Glen

Member
well said i would hate to be the other companys interested in SISU investing in them. It can not be any good for SISU to hold on to us. But your right they don't care one bit
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
well said i would hate to be the other companys interested in SISU investing in them. It can not be any good for SISU to hold on to us. But your right they don't care one bit

Thats why we need to protest and bring it to the media's attention. Investors won't go near Sisu if they think their investment will go the same way as CCFC.
 

wingy

Well-Known Member
C'mon you all lets drive them out ,only a boycott will do it compass /acl will not settle for no matchday income .Get the march from highfield rd going ,Brinner do not sit down to their charm offensive ,how about sharing what you were told by Clarke.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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To be honest with Sisu still at the helm I'm resigned to us being a League 1 club next season. I've already spoke to family I have in Bournemouth about stopping there the night when we play them. I can't see any positives at all. The only positives we have are players who will soon be on their way.

We don't own our ground, don't own our training facilities, we're losing more money than my dad during a game of monopoly and to be quite honest I don't think Sisu could care less.

Agreed with all that and have thought so for some time. I really do hate SISU with a passion. But being resigned to death doesn't make it any less depressing or painful.
 

Glen

Member
I like the idea of marching from Highfield Road to Ricoh and not going in but protesting outside
 

Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
I like the idea of marching from Highfield Road to Ricoh and not going in but protesting outside
This is exactly what I have been saying in another thread. The protest would have much more effect if we all went to the game BUT did not go inside. That way we would be showing that we cared but would also be saying that we wouldNOT be entering till SISU left. Simply not going at all says that we don't care.
 

smileycov

Facebook User
How about we all turn up in Swan st instead!! The Glory days of Highfield Rd, when we were happy! 10-12k stood in the streets at 3pm on matchday would certailnly get Media attention!!
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
It's not SISUs fault we don't own our own ground.

We don't own our ground, don't own our training facilities, we're losing more money than my dad during a game of monopoly and to be quite honest I don't think Sisu could care less.
 
I agree with the idea of a march but why not start if from broadgate. Highfield road would be emotional and all but theres nothing to connect us there anymore so why not start from the godiva statue to jimmy hills statue then more people will join in
 

ccfcdan

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I agree with the idea of a march but why not start if from broadgate. Highfield road would be emotional and all but theres nothing to connect us there anymore so why not start from the godiva statue to jimmy hills statue then more people will join in

We need to get this organised as soon as possible,Strike whilst the irons hot. We need to do it properly though consult the relevant people get the message to as many fans as possible using social networking and local media.Everyone from the council to the telegraph would back this.Everyone connected with the city has had enough of these parasites now. We need a leader to organise all of this!!! Brinner!?!
 
We need to get this organised as soon as possible,Strike whilst the irons hot. We need to do it properly though consult the relevant people get the message to as many fans as possible using social networking and local media.Everyone from the council to the telegraph would back this.Everyone connected with the city has had enough of these parasites now. We need a leader to organise all of this!!! Brinner!?!

Maybe sky sports news can advertise it like they have for everton and blackburn and even talksport with all their Coventry connections
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
No offence intended Glen (although you may be offended by this) but does anybody else feel his threads are like a car crash?! You know you shouldn't look but you really just can't help yourself...
 

gouldberg

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It's not SISUs fault we don't own our own ground.

I never said it was (although some could argue it is their fault they haven't managed to purchase a stake in 4 whole years). I was simply saying we have no assets and are very much up the creek with no paddle in sight.
 

gouldberg

New Member
That's essentially been the case for nearly a decade now. Administration won't solve those woes...only an owner with a big cheque book.

And you're saying we should settle for it? We've got a board that sell every single asset we ever seem to find and are too gutless to throw any cash into an attempt to what will now be keeping us up. They've treated the club like some little side-game that they'll occasionally check on to make sure it's still alive before walking away for another 6 months. We're a mess financially, have absolutely nothing to our name as a club and a result league 1 looms. We should be better than this, but we've been turned into a complete joke amongst other football fans.

Admin will get rid of Sisu so it's fine by me!
 

Colonel Mustard

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And you're saying we should settle for it?

No. I would focus on trying to fill that ground every other week. If we have to bootstrap our way to success, that's where we must start. As unlikely as that may seem, I consider it more likely than finding a deep-pocketed benefactor.

We've got a board that sell every single asset we ever seem to find

Most have walked for free - and then the board were criticised for not selling them.

and are too gutless to throw any cash into an attempt to what will now be keeping us up.

What do guts have to do with it? If the money isn't there, it isn't there.

We're a mess financially, have absolutely nothing to our name as a club and a result league 1 looms.

Pretty much everything you described is a legacy of the previous regime. SISU may not be good owners, but it is rather short-sighted to think the current state of affairs are entirely down them.

Admin will get rid of Sisu so it's fine by me!

I'll be overjoyed if admin leads to more prosperous future for CCFC. I'm not willing to bet on that, though.
 

gouldberg

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No. I would focus on trying to fill that ground every other week. If we have to bootstrap our way to success, that's where we must start. As unlikely as that may seem, I consider it more likely than finding a deep-pocketed benefactor.

As a Championship club with top notch names like Joe Murphy and David Bell I can definitely see us filling a 30,000 seater stadium...not. Fans have voted with their feet. Why pay to watch the dross on offer? It's a little naive to think us fans should pack out 32,000 seats to watch Carl Baker when even Leicester and Leeds only average 23k. Our attendances are not that bad. This season we have the 15th highest average attendance. Not bad for a team in 23rd place.

Most have walked for free - and then the board were criticised for not selling them.

I think the board had no choice but to keep them because of the fan backlash they would have had if they had of sold them all. If Sisu had sold Gunnarsson and Westy then the protests very probably would have started months and months ago as opposed to over the past couple. Don't think they kept them for any reason other than to cover their own back from the fans.

What do guts have to do with it? If the money isn't there, it isn't there.

If the money isn't there why are they talking about trying to get the Ricoh? That's £10m for goodness sake. If they don't have any cash at all they shouldn't be talking about trying to invest into such an establishment. Trust me, if they were offered the Ricoh tomorrow with no need to prove identity etc they'd probably suddenly find some cash from somewhere. I personally think they only want the arena and not the club, but saw the club as an easy way to get at the arena which should we not forget makes a nice sum of money in profit each year.

Pretty much everything you described is a legacy of the previous regime. SISU may not be good owners, but it is rather short-sighted to think the current state of affairs are entirely down them.

True it is a legacy of the past regime, but have Sisu really done anything to right it? I don't think they have. We were in a mess before, now the mess is even more noticeable. That's partly down to Sisu therefore they have to take some blame. I also have to note that once again I didn't say it was all down to Sisu that we have no assets but was just simply stating the fact that under Sisu we haven't moved in a forward direction and are still the same cash-strapped club we were 4 years ago. In fact, if anything we're in a bigger mess.

I'll be overjoyed if admin leads to more prosperous future for CCFC. I'm not willing to bet on that, though.

Anything will be better than this!
 

Grendel

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Colonel Mustard

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As a Championship club with top notch names like Joe Murphy and David Bell I can definitely see us filling a 30,000 seater stadium...not. Etc.

No doubt it would be a challenge, but it's where I'd focus nevertheless. Build stronger community ties, get the number-crunchers to work out attractive ticket prices, do some good PR by giving veterans/long-term ST holders a free pass for a year, maybe even gamble on a loss-leader season etc. There are so, so many things that can be done. Following Norwich's example might be a good starting point.

I think the board had no choice but to keep them because of the fan backlash they would have had if they had of sold them all. If Sisu had sold Gunnarsson and Westy then the protests very probably would have started months and months ago as opposed to over the past couple. Don't think they kept them for any reason other than to cover their own back from the fans.

There's the problem - the inconsistency. If SISU sell, they are asset-strippers; if they don't sell, then they are foolish and covering their own backs. SISU are criticised for not buying the ground, but when they talk about buying the ground the fans and the council vow to block it. SISU get slated for not listening to the fans, but then get slated because they listened to the fans' demands for AT to be appointed. SISU are accused of keeping all the pennies for themselves, but then are accused of not spending enough when they spend the supposedly-pocketed money. And so on.

There's a serious case to be made against SISU, I'm sure, but it's reached the point where anything that goes wrong is attributed to SISU, even if it wholly conflicts with other viewpoints.

If the money isn't there why are they talking about trying to get the Ricoh? That's £10m for goodness sake. If they don't have any cash at all they shouldn't be talking about trying to invest into such an establishment. Trust me, if they were offered the Ricoh tomorrow with no need to prove identity etc they'd probably suddenly find some cash from somewhere. I personally think they only want the arena and not the club, but saw the club as an easy way to get at the arena which should we not forget makes a nice sum of money in profit each year.

I think that's losing sight of the SISU that took over the club in 2007. Back then I think the agenda was very simple - get a bare bones club promoted to the Premiership, pick up the 50% option at least, and flip a top-tier club for a profit. Everything they did in that initial year backed up that likely theory. Equally, it all seemed to collapse after the financial crash - and they've handled things extremely badly since then, with no real gameplan, no forward-thinking, and poor communication.

True it is a legacy of the past regime, but have Sisu really done anything to right it? I don't think they have.

I think they tried initially. I actually think they had the right idea in hiring what they considered to be a top manager and picking up the top young talent from lower league teams. That was the most sustainable model for a club with our lack of resources and infrastructure.

But as I say, they have bungled it since the financial meltdown. I really, really don't think that's a coincidence. What I would say in their favour, though, is that they pay the bills and have kept us in the Championship (to date). They may not have done much for the club, but I don't think they've done the kind of profound damage that the previous regime did.

We were in a mess before, now the mess is even more noticeable. That's partly down to Sisu therefore they have to take some blame.

I'd argue that's as much to do with modernity than anything else. Twitter, forums, Facebook, online petitions - all more prevalent these days, especially with smartphones and iPads. Plus the 'settlement' period has long elapsed...it has now been a decade in the second tier of English football with no money and not much in the way of hope - I think we'd be feeling this way regardless of who the owners are. Add onto that the increasing distance being created between the PL and football league and, sure, I get why people are antsy. But on the surface of things, we really aren't that much worse off than when they took over. In fact, the situation has barely changed.
 

gouldberg

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No doubt it would be a challenge, but it's where I'd focus nevertheless. Build stronger community ties, get the number-crunchers to work out attractive ticket prices, do some good PR by giving veterans/long-term ST holders a free pass for a year, maybe even gamble on a loss-leader season etc. There are so, so many things that can be done. Following Norwich's example might be a good starting point.

A challenge? I think you're bordering on the world of fantasy! The highest our average attendance has EVER been since 2002 is 21,300 and that was the year we moved into the Ricoh. All of your ideas are based on the idea of giving more away for less money which would completely defeat the object of what is needed to turn matchdays profitable. We already lose millions every year. You think we could sustain a year with losses even higher? Terrible idea to be honest.

I get the think-tank behind getting more people in but with the current situation you're living in a dream-world.
 

wingy

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they're a busted flush,will never get their money back ,are harming our club and have to go .the position is entrenched and they will never turn the relationship with the fans around ,they need to go.
 

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