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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #36
Sick Boy said:
The club is hardly in a position to be able to turn down that sort of money.
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Gyo you could easily hold on to until the summer and add a few million on to the price in the process. Hamer less so, he'll only stay beyond the summer if we do the unthinkable
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #37
ms639 said:
I love the optimism on here of people saying no as it might scupper our promotion chances. As a bit of a reality check we haven’t played a team inside the top 12 yet. Our fixtures have been as kind as they could be. Mid table finish and 25 mil in the bank for these 2 would be class


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Erm QPR are 10th and Reading 9th?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #38
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Erm QPR are 10th and Reading 9th?
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Both boro and Cardiff will arguably get their shit together and finish top half too
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #39
Evo1883 said:
That 3 year deal means we hold so much power in negotiations, which will definitely come if he scores 20
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He won't be going anywhere in January unless we get a bonkers offer like that in the OP. Even then I'd think twice given that everybody would know we were in for a striker and had money to spend
 

ms639

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #40
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Erm QPR are 10th and Reading 9th?
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Apologies, last time I looked was Friday night after the Peterborough game! Still stands though…


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Evo1883

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #41
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He won't be going anywhere in January unless we get a bonkers offer like that in the OP. Even then I'd think twice given that everybody would know we were in for a striker and had money to spend
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Oh no not Jan, didn't read .. I expect bids in the summer will be plentiful if he bags 20 this year and only being 23 .

He has so many valuable assets
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #42
Evo1883 said:
Both boro and Cardiff will arguably get their shit together and finish top half too
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If we're top 6 by Christmas there will still be those saying 'yeah but we had an easy start'. There are no easy games in this league as any manager will testify
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #43
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He won't be going anywhere in January unless we get a bonkers offer like that in the OP. Even then I'd think twice given that everybody would know we were in for a striker and had money to spend
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He might have been promised a move if a massive club comes in for him and who’d begrudge it
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #44
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If we're top 6 by Christmas there will still be those saying 'yeah but we had an easy start'. There are no easy games in this league as any manager will testify
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We had the same arguments in the league 1 season tbh .

First 10 games we played only 2 top half teams
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #45
Sky Blue Pete said:
He might have been promised a move if a massive club comes in for him and who’d begrudge it
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It's what he was signed for ultimately
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #46
Evo1883 said:
We had the same arguments in the league 1 season tbh .

First 10 games we played only 2 top half teams
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Middlesbrough being written off as an 'easy' side I don't really get especially.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #47
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Middlesbrough being written off as an 'easy' side I don't really get especially.
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They are solid championship sides , sides you'd need to beat to pull yourself upto the higher end of the table

Beat these teams and get something from some of the 6 or 7 top sides then you won't be far off
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #48
Sick Boy said:
The club is hardly in a position to be able to turn down that sort of money.
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If the home crowds keep up at the 20k levels (should be more for the Derby, WBA and Blues games coming up) then the club are raking in profits and surely that alleviates the necessity to cash in. Carry o at the right end of the table, the crowds will hold up and the value of the players maintains/increases. That scenario doesn't leave the club in a position where they have to sell in the January window by my reckoning? Not saying they won't, but I would have thought that 20k plus crowds should be generating a cashflow profit.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #49
Evo1883 said:
Oh no not Jan, didn't read .. I expect bids in the summer will be plentiful if he bags 20 this year and only being 23 .

He has so many valuable assets
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Ollie Watkins was sold for nearly £30 million just after he scored 25, and had 3 years left on his contract. If Gyo gets close to that then it isn't that ridiculous to think you could get offers north of £20m in the summer.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #50
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's what he was signed for ultimately
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Very true
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #51
Evo1883 said:
They are solid championship sides , sides you'd need to beat to pull yourself upto the higher end of the table

Beat these teams and get something from some of the 6 or 7 top sides then you won't be far off
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Derby who we have at home after Fulham are proving very difficult to beat also and that siege mentality being created there probably adds to it. Every win in this league is hard earned
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #52
ms639 said:
I love the optimism on here of people saying no as it might scupper our promotion chances. As a bit of a reality check we haven’t played a team inside the top 12 yet. Our fixtures have been as kind as they could be. Mid table finish and 25 mil in the bank for these 2 would be class


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This should only happen with MR's full approval. Sends out the wrong message to MR (from above), unless he is allowed to use that money (or a good chunk) to develop the team. as I would think there will come a pivotal moment where if he feels his on pitch work is being compromised, it will make the 'I've taken us as far as I can' point comes. He will definitely become the target for relegated teams (e.g. WBA, Norwich, if they decide to ditch their managers). He may make the move, regardless. I just find it disheartening as a fan to look at how everything will unravel at a point when we are having our day in the sun. Hopefully the club are future proofing for such eventualities.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #53
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Derby who we have at home after Fulham are proving very difficult to beat also and that siege mentality being created there probably adds to it. Every win in this league is hard earned
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Absolutely that’s what I think. It’s such nonsense to say we’ve had an easy ‘9’ games!
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #54
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Ollie Watkins was sold for nearly £30 million just after he scored 25, and had 3 years left on his contract. If Gyo gets close to that then it isn't that ridiculous to think you could get offers north of £20m in the summer.
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Which is why we shouldn't jump at a relatively low offer at the first opportunity. His value is hardly likely to drop. Prolific goal scorers at this level are like hens teeth
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #55
Sky Blue Pete said:
Absolutely that’s what I think. It’s such nonsense to say we’ve had an easy ‘9’ games!
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We needed Fergie time to beat both Forest and Reading, Moore's ridiculous triple save kept it at 0-0 against Boro, Collins' howler for Cardiff etc. We're there on merit so far but a moment's complacency and we'll come down to Earth with a bang
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #56
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Which is why we shouldn't jump at a relatively low offer at the first opportunity. His value is hardly likely to drop. Prolific goal scorers at this level are like hens teeth
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It will be the acid test for whether the owners continue not to mess around with the running of the footballing side of things or whether they jump at the first 8 figure bid we've had since Robbie Keane
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #57
Sky Blue Harry H said:
This should only happen with MR's full approval. Sends out the wrong message to MR (from above), unless he is allowed to use that money (or a good chunk) to develop the team. as I would think there will come a pivotal moment where if he feels his on pitch work is being compromised, it will make the 'I've taken us as far as I can' point comes. He will definitely become the target for relegated teams (e.g. WBA, Norwich, if they decide to ditch their managers). He may make the move, regardless. I just find it disheartening as a fan to look at how everything will unravel at a point when we are having our day in the sun. Hopefully the club are future proofing for such eventualities.
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It’s an opportunity as is always is. Selling to cover debt is disastrous. Selling to run the club and increase the wage bill and invest in some more young and upcoming players
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #58
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We needed Fergie time to beat both Forest and Reading, Moore's ridiculous triple save kept it at 0-0 against Boro, Collins' howler for Cardiff etc. We're there on merit so far but a moment's complacency and we'll come down to Earth with a bang
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Course that’s why Robins is being so balanced and humble
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #59
The owners puts investors first and the club a distinct second. If a huge upfront cash offer came for any player it would be failing it it’s primary objective of putting the bankers of the club first

So they would sell
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #60
Grendel said:
The owners puts investors first and the club a distinct second. If a huge upfront cash offer came for any player it would be failing it it’s primary objective of putting the bankers of the club first

So they would sell
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From a business perspective they'd be crazy not to accept that kind of money.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #61
Sick Boy said:
From a business perspective they'd be crazy not to accept that kind of money.
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Not sure about that. Depends on the interest rate on the debt and the appreciation rate of the asset.

We’ve seen many a time the club make less than it could have by accepting the first offer it gets.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #62
shmmeee said:
Not sure about that. Depends on the interest rate on the debt and the appreciation rate of the asset.

We’ve seen many a time the club make less than it could have by accepting the first offer it gets.
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I can’t think of any example other than Clarke Harris where there is evidence we lost out
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #63
shmmeee said:
Not sure about that. Depends on the interest rate on the debt and the appreciation rate of the asset.

We’ve seen many a time the club make less than it could have by accepting the first offer it gets.
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£25 from 2 players and you think they wouldn't sell?
Really?
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #64
Sick Boy said:
£25 from 2 players and you think they wouldn't sell?
Really?
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Don’t think I said that. I said accepting the first offer wouldn’t necessarily be the best business sense.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #65
shmmeee said:
Don’t think I said that. I said accepting the first offer wouldn’t necessarily be the best business sense.
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I don’t get the interest rate argument
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #66
shmmeee said:
Don’t think I said that. I said accepting the first offer wouldn’t necessarily be the best business sense.
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The question was about accepting 25million, which they would most certainly do.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #67
Grendel said:
I can’t think of any example other than Clarke Harris where there is evidence we lost out
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Maddison and McCallum for sure in my view.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #68
Deleted member 9744 said:
Maddison and McCallum for sure in my view.
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1 League Cup game for Norwich isn’t it for McCallum? Looks a good deal as it stands
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #69
SlowerThanPlatt said:
1 League Cup game for Norwich isn’t it for McCallum? Looks a good deal as it stands
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As it stands...
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #70
Deleted member 9744 said:
As it stands...
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Is he worth any more now?
 
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