Min salary for a Band 5 nurse is 24907 + 20% on costs, so £30k * 315 = £9.45m
YepSo less than the £11 million the taxpayer has funded to house Mr Peter Sutcliffe during his years of incarceration
So less than the £11 million the taxpayer has funded to house Mr Peter Sutcliffe during his years of incarceration
What's the significance of the 315?
And?
You have any idea how much the death penalty costs?
Costs
Studies consistently find that the death penalty is more expensive than alternative punishments.deathpenaltyinfo.org
Good old wiki GrendullId averaged the average wage on wiki and it came to 315 when divided by £11 million
Boris spaffed £50m on a bridge that never even got built. That’s about 1600 nurses I reckon.
We should do the same with the Dido Harding projects...
Not saying he did, and I agree that you may have a point about how we spend money on housing horrific people like this.how relevant - guess old Pete deserved his life of relative comfort then
Chicken feed compared to the money he needlessly spanked on the Boris Busses redesign.Boris spaffed £50m on a bridge that never even got built. That’s about 1600 nurses I reckon.
We should do the same with the Dido Harding projects...
Depends on the legal right to appeal actually - also in his case even on that assumption it’s not going to cost £11 million
We don’t have the death penalty in the U.K., we do have an appeal system though. The US has the death penalty and an appeal system. Who else are you going to compare with if you want a full and factual discussion on the cost of keeping serial killers alive vs an alternative?How is a US study relevant to the UK system of justice?
Not the USA, that's for certain.Who else are you going to compare with if you want a full and factual discussion on the cost of keeping serial killers alive vs an alternative?
So who then? If you want a proper discussion about it you’ve got to factor everything in.Not the USA, that's for certain.
Fifty years ago the last murderers were hanged in the UK. It brought to an end an era of extraordinarily swift capital punishment.
At 08:00 on Thursday 13 August 1964, two keys turned in the locks of two prison cell doors - one in Manchester, the other in Liverpool. Moments later, two men were dead, hanged for the crime of capital murder.
Gwynne Evans and Peter Allen, two petty criminals who killed a man in a bungled burglary, were the last two people to be executed for murder in the UK.
Justice came swiftly. The trial of 24-year-old Evans and Allen, who was 21, began on 23 June at Manchester Assizes. On 7 July the men were found guilty and sentenced under the 1957 Homicide Act to suffer death "in the manner prescribed by law".
Their appeal was heard just two weeks later - and dismissed the next day. A final appeal for clemency was rejected by the Home Secretary on 11 August. Less than five weeks elapsed between conviction and execution.
How’s a system that hasn’t been in place for half a century relevant? You’ll be brining back public stonings next. The country has changed massively in that period, if capital punishment ever did come back it absolutely will have an appeal process.When murderers were hanged quickly
Fifty years ago the last murderers were hanged in the UK. It brought to an end an era of extraordinarily swift capital punishment.www.bbc.co.uk
There was an appeal process back then, it was just a lot faster than in the USA and presumably much cheaper.How’s a system that hasn’t been in place for half a century relevant? You’ll be brining back public stonings next. The country has changed massively in that period, if capital punishment ever did come back it absolutely will have an appeal process.
Cheaper? Try telling Dereck Bentley that. It cost him his life and ultimately the Tax payer millions in appeals after his death to get initially a pardon and then his conviction overturned. There’s a reason why the appeal process is now exhaustive and it’s so you don’t wrongly send a 19 year old with the mental age of a 13 year old to the gallows.There was an appeal process back then, it was just a lot faster than in the USA and presumably much cheaper.
Cheaper? Try telling Dereck Bentley that. It cost him his life and ultimately the Tax payer millions in appeals after his death to get initially a pardon and then his conviction overturned. There’s a reason why the appeal process is now exhaustive and it’s so you don’t wrongly send a 19 year old with the mental age of a 13 year old to the gallows.
He wouldn’t have been in broadmoor for the rest of his life. The guy who actually committed the crime was out in 10 years. Derek Bentleys wrongful conviction cost the British taxpayer 40 years of appeals after his death and the cost of having his body exhumed from the prison cemetery to be buried in his family plot with his parents and sister who didn’t live to see his wrongful conviction overturned.How much would it have cost to keep him in Broadmoor for the rest of his life?
Would he? Doubtful. And if he had have been it wouldn’t have taken 40 years to overturn his wrongful conviction by today’s standards.He would still be convicted if the same crime was committed today.
Would he? Doubtful. And if he had have been it wouldn’t have taken 40 years to overturn his wrongful conviction by today’s standards.
Of course I don’t. I think he’d have been convicted of being an accomplice and been out in two years at considerably less cost than wrongly convicting him of murder, sending him to the gallows and a drawn out and costly appeal after he’d died from hanging.You think he would walk free after a policeman has been shot dead by his accomplice do you? I can just see the tabloid headlines.
Of course I don’t. I think he’d have been convicted of being an accomplice and been out in two years at considerably less cost than wrongly convicting him of murder, sending him to the gallows and a drawn out and costly appeal after he’d died from hanging.
Seriously. What planet do you live on? Nicolae Ceaușescu’s Romania?If as you say he had a "mental age of a 13 year old" he would be sent to a maximum security hospital and probably institutionalised for the rest of his life at enormous cost to the taxpayer.
How is a US study relevant to the UK system of justice?
He’d have gone to an age appropriate prison. You do realise that there’s plenty of inmates in prison with learning issues. Broadmoor is for dangerous prisoners with severe mental health issues. It’s not a case of you couldn’t pass your 11+ so it’s straight of to a secure mental health unit for you.Where do you think they would send a policeman's murderer's accomplice with a mental age of thirteen then? Disneyland?
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