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How many more players do we need? (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter junglej13
  • Start date Jul 12, 2015
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skybluebeduff

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  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #36
Juggernaut said:
Swanson had a shit manager, now he hasn't, he deserves a chance.
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Corrected for you.
 
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Juggernaut

New Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #37
skybluebeduff said:
Corrected for you.
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Bollocks. In that' case then shall we get Allsop, Mcquoid, Couilbaly, Madine and every other failed player back from last season because they had a shit manager? What about Webster.

The manager can get set them up well tactically, have them well drilled, organised and working to a detailed plan, but there's not a lot a manager can do with someone who lacks basic footballing skills. Every time I watched Swanson all he done was give the ball away.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #38
I like the look of Swanson. I think he can do a job; he was decent at Posh, so he can do it. I think Mowbray will get the best out of him. If not, get rid, but I think he deserves a chance. Simple really.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #39
Juggernaut said:
Bollocks. In that' case then shall we get Allsop, Mcquoid, Couilbaly, Madine and every other failed player back from last season because they had a shit manager? What about Webster.

The manager can get set them up well tactically, have them well drilled, organised and working to a detailed plan, but there's not a lot a manager can do with someone who lacks basic footballing skills. Every time I watched Swanson all he done was give the ball away.
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Lacks basic football skills? Have you seen his goal against Celtic at the end of last season?

the other goal he scored on loan shows a wonderful piece of footwork. He has the skills it just depends can he deliver on a regular basis. I think the fact Mowbrey wanted him back to assess fully, suggests he has at least got basic skills. Especially when St Johnstone had made an offer for him, Mowbrey could have sent him packing along with the others you mentioned and Nouble who you didn't.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #40
Hobo said:
Lacks basic football skills? Have you seen his goal against Celtic at the end of last season?

the other goal he scored on loan shows a wonderful piece of footwork. He has the skills it just depends can he deliver on a regular basis. I think the fact Mowbrey wanted him back to assess fully, suggests he has at least got basic skills. Especially when St Johnstone had made an offer for him, Mowbrey could have sent him packing along with the others you mentioned and Nouble who you didn't.
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Agree. I think its worth giving him till January, a Scottish team will take him in the January window if he isn't doing the business.

I think 3 more is all we will get, an attack minded midfielder and 2 strikers. Any other gaps to be plugged by loans or the kids.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #41
Agree. Three attacking players will transform this side.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #42
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Agree. I think its worth giving him till January, a Scottish team will take him in the January window if he isn't doing the business.

I think 3 more is all we will get, an attack minded midfielder and 2 strikers. Any other gaps to be plugged by loans or the kids.
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I think Mowbrey will make his mind up on Swanson by the end of pre season, I think he will be expecting him to show what he has got. Same with the trialists.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #43
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Agree. I think its worth giving him till January, a Scottish team will take him in the January window if he isn't doing the business.

I think 3 more is all we will get, an attack minded midfielder and 2 strikers. Any other gaps to be plugged by loans or the kids.
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Though I think only 2, a midfielder and a striker.. with 'prospects' from Premiership clubs to provide the pace options up front, either in the centre or on the wing.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #44
maybe he is still holding out for samuels on loan?

this spurs trialist might be worth a punt, could add creativity if not pace.

1 fast winge ron top of that could be neough, although we need 2 strikers really on top of tudgay and g thomas.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #45
Yes 4-5 players would be nice but given the volume of players released in the last few years, finance is clearly a major issue. I would take a decent striker and a winger as a kick off.

Things are not rosy in the garden financially so we are clearly being savy about getting the right crop in, Reda probably cost us dearly even for the year but we now need attacking threat.

Maybe when SISU get £110M from CCC, we can all breath easier? !
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #46
Covstu said:
Yes 4-5 players would be nice but given the volume of players released in the last few years, finance is clearly a major issue. I would take a decent striker and a winger as a kick off.

Things are not rosy in the garden financially so we are clearly being savy about getting the right crop in, Reda probably cost us dearly even for the year but we now need attacking threat.

Maybe when SISU get £110M from CCC, we can all breath easier? !
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You could breathe easier alright because you wouldn't see them for dust !
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #47
Ashdown said:
You could breathe easier alright because you wouldn't see them for dust !
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Good or bad thing???
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #48
Covstu said:
Good or bad thing???
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Depends on who replaces them of course, but it would be sickening if they made a huge profit after all the upset and then dumped the club without a backwards glance. It was their fault that 'Wasps' were able to sneak round the back door and steal our stadium too.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #49
Covstu said:
Good or bad thing???
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I think its the only way we will be shot of them and the only opportunity for fan ownership. They won't get £110 million though, not even close to that amount.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #50
Ashdown said:
Depends on who replaces them of course, but it would be sickening if they made a huge profit after all the upset and then dumped the club without a backwards glance. It was their fault that 'Wasps' were able to sneak round the back door and steal our stadium too.
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lol had nothing to do with the council of course.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #51
Anyway, the players we need......
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #52
Nick said:
Anyway, the players we need......
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A point well made!
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #53
covcity4life said:
lol had nothing to do with the council of course.
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Agree, not their fault. They were faced with a bunch of cynical piss-takers and did the best they could to protect the peoples' investment against these bottom-crawlers.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #54
mrtrench said:
Agree, not their fault. They were faced with a bunch of cynical piss-takers and did the best they could to protect the peoples' investment against these bottom-crawlers.
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they protected the taxpayer.................but now if they lose its sisu who are hurting the tax playuer LOL

anyway for a dfferent thread,get this jacobs guy in mogga
 
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Juggernaut

New Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #55
You can't use a goal against Celtic and say he has basic skills because of that. Michael Doyle scored screamers ffs.

From what I seen I wasn't impressed, I want to be proved wrong, but I know I won't be. He's not good enough.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #56
...but now if they lose its sisu who are hurting the taxpayer lol
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Lol? Wow
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #57
Juggernaut said:
You can't use a goal against Celtic and say he has basic skills because of that. Michael Doyle scored screamers ffs.

From what I seen I wasn't impressed, I want to be proved wrong, but I know I won't be. He's not good enough.
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I haven't based it on one shot at all. He possess qualities we lack. I have never said he is the answer, I have said If Mowbrey can get him playing consistently, he would be like a new signing.

you will be pleased to know St Johnstone fans say they are lacking width, pace and guile....Unfortunately Swanson isn't going to happen now Coventry have got him back for pre season training.

They have resigned themselves to Mowbrey keeping him, but would have him back in a flash...I believe their Manager is still monitoring the situation.

I think Mowbrey will only keep him if he sees him in his first 11. Swanson needs regular football....he is a confidence player.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #58
With Swanson I'd be happy to give him a chance and treat him as a new signing, give him a pre season and a few games to settle.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #59
swason looked ok from what little pressley allowed us to see him

under mowbray i hope he stays.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #60
Manchester_sky_blue said:
I think its the only way we will be shot of them and the only opportunity for fan ownership. They won't get £110 million though, not even close to that amount.
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i was taking the piss on the money relating to over inflated prices quoted on the meltdown thread....
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #61
I would of thought below is what TM is looking for, also once Prem and Championship clubs decide on first team squads loans will come into play...

1 Senior GK needed
1 Senior RB needed
1 Midfielder Needed
2 FW'S
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #62
The bottom line being who is the best player Swanson or Ruben Lameiras, can' see TM signing both
 
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AGSB15

Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #63
Juggernaut said:
2 strikers, 2 wingers and an attacking midfielder who plays centrally.

Watch out for Ben Stevenson breaking through this year, as talented as Maddison.
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Very good player yes, but not as talented as Maddison, not yet anyway and not ready for the 1st team either. Didn't even start for 21's last season apart from maybe the odd game
 

Covcraig@bury

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #64
18-22 give or take 2
 

junglej13

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #65
Notice Mark Marshall just signed for Bradford.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #66
Covcraig@bury said:
18-22 give or take 2
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Snigger snigger
 
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Jayno

New Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #67
I agree regarding Ben. Talented midfielder and playmaker. He can also put a tackle in.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #68
You need a minimum of 22 but preferably 25 players in a squad. Cover for every position, and 3 multi positional players.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #69
You need a minimum of 22 but preferably 25 players in a squad. Cover for every position, and 3 multi positional players.
 
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johnwillomagic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2015
  • #70
Do you include some youth in that 25??? If you do not I challenge your realism and to find many league one squads
which have 25 seasoned pros on books of squad excluding loans.

We are on 20 anyhow alreaday as I have said excluding the twins so we are there virtually on numbers anyhow
by your reckoning?
 
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