Hiwula (1 Viewer)

KersleyDigs · May 24, 2020

Who remembers that guy?! Seemed to have fallen off a cliff or something. Kinda forgotten about him till Blackpool highlights yesterday.....

clint van damme · May 24, 2020

asked this question in the classic game thread yesterday. He played well in that Blackpool game but rapidly disappeared off the scene after being top scorer the previous season.

cc84cov · May 24, 2020

Thought about him yesterday I very much doubt we see him in a city shirt again after Robins comments when he was dropped out,again we need far better in the championship than Hiwula.

lord_garrincha · May 24, 2020

It was the perfect (not for him!) storm of his form dropping off a cliff, confidence being lower than a snake's belly (MK pen miss & 1st half performance against Fleetwood - they say he was injured, but I thought he bottled it due to factors mentioned) and the formation change in 2nd half which meant there was no role for him.

But a L1 club should look to buy him. He will do a job given the right circumstances (look at JCH).

ccfcway · May 24, 2020

Sell him to Pompey as part of the Toney deal

christonabike · May 24, 2020

Never really rated him to be honest but he must have something about him. Maybe a different team with a set up that suits him will see him start scoring again. I think mid table league 1 is his level.

covcity4life · May 24, 2020

ccfcway said:
Sell him to Pompey as part of the Toney deal

What will posh get though?

cc84cov · May 24, 2020

ccfcway said:
Sell him to Pompey as part of the Toney deal

Hiwula is out of contract i thought ?

larry_david · May 24, 2020

I don't think hiwula ever fitted our style. He was out of position all last season but did score so great goals. Clearly a confidence player but I remember that Fleetwood game, there were rumours he was injured or saying he was injured. That game was prob the turning point in our season because at ht he went to our current formation and boom

AFCCOVENTRY · May 24, 2020

covcity4life said:
What will posh get though?

Another season in L1 with Sunderland.

shmmeee · May 24, 2020

Him and Baka will be released this summer I expect. Shame because on their day I think there’s a player in both of them, they just never were on their day enough.

fatso · May 24, 2020

He's not good enough for league 1, and defo not championship standard, and it would appear his attitude is questionable.
I'm sure he could do a job in league 2 as a striker rather than pushed out wide on the left, but he will be gone before next season starts, along with Baka, Ponty, and most probably Biamou.
(Although I'd be happy for Biamou to stay and fight for a place on the bench)

Grendel · May 24, 2020

fatso said:
He's not good enough for league 1, and defo not championship standard, and it would appear his attitude is questionable.
I'm sure he could do a job in league 2 as a striker rather than pushed out wide on the left, but he will be gone before next season starts, along with Baka, Ponty, and most probably Biamou.
(Although I'd be happy for Biamou to stay and fight for a place on the bench)

He’s scored over 40 goals at league 1 level in 120 starts. In the second half of last season he was clearly one of the better players - mentioning him as inferior to Biamou is laughable

ccfcway · May 24, 2020

fatso said:
He's not good enough for league 1, and defo not championship standard, and it would appear his attitude is questionable.
I'm sure he could do a job in league 2 as a striker rather than pushed out wide on the left, but he will be gone before next season starts, along with Baka, Ponty, and most probably Biamou.
(Although I'd be happy for Biamou to stay and fight for a place on the bench)

i think jordi and baka will be gone and max will be kept on as our 4th choice striker with 2 new signings

Warwickhunt · May 24, 2020

Baka will sign an extention methinks

ccfchoi87 · May 24, 2020

I would rather keep Baka than Max. Would rather keep Hiwula than both but there we go.

ccfc1234 · May 24, 2020

fatso said:
He's not good enough for league 1, and defo not championship standard, and it would appear his attitude is questionable.
I'm sure he could do a job in league 2 as a striker rather than pushed out wide on the left, but he will be gone before next season starts, along with Baka, Ponty, and most probably Biamou.
(Although I'd be happy for Biamou to stay and fight for a place on the bench)

Agree about Max being given a shot. We have played Birmingham twice and he looked the forward that upset their defenders most. We will need 2 forwards to replace Baka and Jordy.

*edit assuming we get promoted.....

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · May 24, 2020

ccfchoi87 said:
I would rather keep Baka than Max. Would rather keep Hiwula than both but there we go.

As Jimmy Greaves would say, " football it's a funny old game "

SlowerThanPlatt · May 24, 2020

I would imagine we would offer Bakayoko something even if the plan is to eventually move him on. We made an investment in him and hasn’t burnt his bridges yet like Hiwula. In the Sunderland and Ipswich games it was him who was trusted to come on over Biamou - his last start was also pretty good against Portsmouth

Sky Blue Harry H · May 24, 2020

ccfcway said:
Sell him to Pompey as part of the Toney deal

Don't think Sunderland would allow that:banghead:

Sky Blue Harry H · May 24, 2020

ccfchoi87 said:
I would rather keep Baka than Max. Would rather keep Hiwula than both but there we go.

Bold call. I'm a huge Max fan. On a going day Baka is harder to handle than Hiwula - just doesn't do it often enough. Wouldn't mind getting Granduillet from Blackpool (a big upgrade on Baka)

ccfchoi87 · May 24, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Bold call. I'm a huge Max fan. On a going day Baka is harder to handle than Hiwula - just doesn't do it often enough. Wouldn't mind getting Granduillet from Blackpool (a big upgrade on Baka)

Hiwula will always be more of a threat than Max even playing out wide. Given their ages, it’s a no brainier which one of them is more valuable however, Robins has evidently gave up on Hiwula. Baka also has age on his side compared with Max despite having similar goal scoring records.

ccfcway · May 24, 2020

ccfchoi87 said:
Hiwula will always be more of a threat than Max even playing out wide. Given their ages, it’s a no brainier which one of them is more valuable however, Robins has evidently gave up on Hiwula. Baka also has age on his side compared with Max despite having similar goal scoring records.

Robins will likely be in the championship next season, Jordi will likely not be. I know who i'd back

ccfchoi87 · May 24, 2020

ccfcway said:
Robins will likely be in the championship next season, Jordi will likely not be. I know who i'd back

Just because a player and manager have a dispute doesn’t mean the player isn’t very good. Hiwula has had success in league one and will do again. Max never has and never will unfortunately. Whether Baka will remains to be seen but he has the potential I guess. I don’t believe any of the three will become established championship players but Hiwula and Baka have time on their side at least. Oh and Robins still needs to prove himself at championship level also.

wingy · May 24, 2020

What kind of money would Hiwula have been on?
There was heavy pressure on the budget
The club were trying to grow the crowd.
Just trying to think outside the box

ccfchoi87 · May 24, 2020

wingy said:
What kind of money would Hiwula have been on?
There was heavy pressure on the budget
The club were trying to grow the crowd.
Just trying to think outside the box

I imagine Hiwula will be a high earner. I would think Baka is on more than Max too.

Magwitch · May 24, 2020

He ain’t good enough simple as that division two at best.

fatso · May 24, 2020

Grendel said:
He’s scored over 40 goals at league 1 level in 120 starts. In the second half of last season he was clearly one of the better players - mentioning him as inferior to Biamou is laughable

14 goals in 54 league 1 appearances for us, and couldn’t even get near the bench in the end, It would appear that MR doesn’t agree with you Grendel.

And FYI, I think most on here would say that Biamou has steadily improved, while Hiwula has gone backwards.

ccfcway · May 25, 2020

ccfchoi87 said:
Just because a player and manager have a dispute doesn’t mean the player isn’t very good. Hiwula has had success in league one and will do again. Max never has and never will unfortunately. Whether Baka will remains to be seen but he has the potential I guess. I don’t believe any of the three will become established championship players but Hiwula and Baka have time on their side at least. Oh and Robins still needs to prove himself at championship level also.

Who will prove themselves in the championship ?

Robins / max
Jordi / Baka

yer, I know where my money would be

ccfchoi87 · May 25, 2020

ccfcway said:
Who will prove themselves in the championship ?

Robins / max
Jordi / Baka

yer, I know where my money would be

Robins has a chance. Jordi and Baka may have a chance in the future depending on their progression but not now. Max needs to prove himself in league one first.

Sick Boy · May 25, 2020

The only striker worth keeping for the Championship is Godden and only then as a squad player.

Sky Blue Pete · May 25, 2020

Grendel said:
He’s scored over 40 goals at league 1 level in 120 starts. In the second half of last season he was clearly one of the better players - mentioning him as inferior to Biamou is laughable

Looks like robins was right about letting jch go in hindsight

Wyken Sky Blue · May 25, 2020

A good League 1 player, just doesn't fit into our system.

Send him to Sunderland, they like our old toys after we've finished playing with them.

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TomRad85 · May 25, 2020

Sick Boy said:
The only striker worth keeping for the Championship is Godden and only then as a squad player.

Tend to agree but let's say you need 4 in your squad, I'd rather also keep say Max and Baka, who I assume aren't paid much and spend a relatively fat wage on one excellent striker than release them and spread the wage over 3 mediocre strikers. If you get me?

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Malaka · May 25, 2020

TomRad85 said:
Tend to agree but let's say you need 4 in your squad, I'd rather also keep say Max and Baka, who I assume aren't paid much and spend a relatively fat wage on one excellent striker than release them and spread the wage over 3 mediocre strikers. If you get me?

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I personally don't think that Max is mediocre. I think in the less physical, more skillful league he will score enough goals to warrant a contract.

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