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speedie87

speedie87

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We all know that since relegation the club has made a series of bad decisions off the pitch however a number of those decisions were probably forced into as short term decisions just to survive.

Looking back now what should the club have done immediately post relegation off the pitch ( ie ignoring the fact Strachan should have been sacked the next day!)

Serious suggestions welcome
 
Grendel

Grendel

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They should have looked at the debt mountain and immediately put themselves into administration.
 
stupot07

stupot07

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We should have completely overhauled the squad and reduced the wage bill signifantly so we could pay off the most debts with parachute payments. Then built froma steady base like WBA did.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
They should have looked at the debt mountain and immediately put themselves into administration.
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With hindsight this would probably have been wise-our M69 neighbours have never looked back and Pompey seem to have turned it into a hobby.
 
speedie87

speedie87

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I going to play devils advocate on this thread any respond to suggestions from the clubs point of view at the time to see if we can come to a conclusion as to how we got in this mess
 
speedie87

speedie87

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Grendel said:
They should have looked at the debt mountain and immediately put themselves into administration.
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the people putting the club into adminstration would have stood to lose a lot money. ( i know they did anyway)

they probably thought if we can get back up before the parchute payments run out we will be ok

also they lost income because of itv digital issues.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
With hindsight this would probably have been wise-our M69 neighbours have never looked back and Pompey seem to have turned it into a hobby.
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There were no penalties then. Leicester started with a clean seat. The cost cutting after the first season was as bad as we saw last season. Problem was the debt was tied to the board. Mcginnity was a disasterous chairman.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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speedie87 said:
the people putting the club into adminstration would have stood to lose a lot money. ( i know they did anyway)

they probably thought if we can get back up before the parchute payments run out we will be ok

also they lost income because of itv digital issues.
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The root of it all comes from Richardson wanting to take the club from perennial strugglers to top half/European contenders. The CET called him a 'pioneer' this year for having that ambition :facepalm:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
There were no penalties then. Leicester started with a clean seat. The cost cutting after the first season was as bad as we saw last season. Problem was the debt was tied to the board. Mcginnity was a disasterous chairman.
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They even got the ground built for them for diddly squat in the end.
 
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cyril

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Simply. Sack strachan when relegated. Keep aloisi and not sign the murderer. Invested in a couple of young good defenders and a centre midfielder in the Ilk of Gary mac
 
Grendel

Grendel

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cyril said:
Simply. Sack strachan when relegated. Keep aloisi and not sign the murderer. Invested in a couple of young good defenders and a centre midfielder in the Ilk of Gary mac
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Never understand the fuss about Aliosi. His career stats look average. Hughes at the time looked a good signing and we really should have been promoted that year.
 
speedie87

speedie87

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can we keep this thread to non playing matters?

i know they are linked but i'm interested to see what we could have done differently finacially with the various deals etc
 
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cyril

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speedie87 said:
can we keep this thread to non playing matters?

i know they are linked but i'm interested to see what we could have done differently finacially with the various deals etc
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Wasting 5 million quid on a tool is a financial cock up no?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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speedie87 said:
can we keep this thread to non playing matters?

i know they are linked but i'm interested to see what we could have done differently finacially with the various deals etc
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Administration would've seemed the best bet. Get in there before there's a punishment, shaft all the creditors, and secure an easy promotion back up whilst all the other suckers try and pay the bills.




Come on you Foxes.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Immediately gone into admin and renegotiated the rent.

Not particularly ethical but fuck it, other teams have done it so honesty I wish we had before the penalties came in. A sliding rent scale should have been the original deal IMO and admin would be the perfect catalyst for renegotiation.

Made a massive push on fan engagement, cheap STs for those that had one when we got relegated, elected fan/s on the board. The works. Connect with local businesses, especially pubs near the Ricoh and people like Gary who does the coaches and the guy who does the canal boat. Make it a more coordinated effort, anyone trying to get fans to games is helping the club. Send reserve players along to local pubs, hold post match "press releases" in the casino so fans can ask questions. Put the club at the heart of the community. Free season tickets for all Primary School kids in coventry (with a paying adult per so many kids)

Follow the Ranson transfer model: spend on scouting young players who can be sold on for cheap, except this time don't sell at the first sight of cash.

Develop the academy. Immediately hire Rioch as he's been the best acquisition since relegation. Aim to fill 4/5 first team places and a couple on the bench.

Get a good long term manager in. I think Robins is the first manager since relegation I'd trust with a seriously long term contract. Stability was a big issue in our decade in the Championship.

Stick to a competitive, but affordable wage structure. Small losses (below say £1m/year) would be acceptable but nothing that puts the club at serious risk.

Reduce the capacity of the Ricoh to 22/25k for most matches once attendances start dropping off, even lower if needed. I know some people have an issue with it but IMO the Sheff Utd game proved that point.

Start negotiations on buying The Higgs share in the Ricoh. Develop the ground around with restaurants pubs/clubs. Make it a night time destination, use the canal as an attraction, get families to go to the Ricoh and stay there all day. Double the amount of concerts there. We should be stealing the NECs business. All of this would push the decision on the station our way earlier as well.
 
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wingy

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deanocity3 said:
Think of all the rents the council are now getting from those 100's of flats now standing on the HR site.Pity the club don't own the site now.
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More like paying exhorbitant rents through housing benefits to buy to let landlords for the unfortunates who find themselves at the mercy of the system .Hey ,even deprived the right to buy because of it.
Shit Full circle to the Ricoh Arena ,own goal.:facepalm::thinking about:
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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If we had gone into administration in 2007 or whenever it was. We could of started again, and been back in the football league by now.
 
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DazzleTommyDazzle

DazzleTommyDazzle

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In that first season, I think we'd have had a good chance of going back up if we'd kept the management team of the blessed Roland, Richard Money and Ray Clarke.

It all started to go wrong when McGinnity sacked Money, sidelined Clarke and brought in Jim Smith.

And don't get me started on the sacking of Eric Black..................:facepalm:
 
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georgehudson

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let's not dwell on the past,
after all,
we know about the richardson catastrophe,
can we address the sisu farce since their arrival,
with 1 owner,
i personally cannot think of any instance of such a procession of, (what to call them), obdurate, self-centred & greedy buffoons,
only an opinion of course,
PUSB
 
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Loughborough Sky Blue

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lots of people talking about parachute payments... I thought we were relegated before the parachute payment system started. Is this not why we have been in so much trouble for so long? Because we were forced to struggle along with premier league costs and division 1 income.
 
mattylad

mattylad

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speedie87 said:
We all know that since relegation the club has made a series of bad decisions off the pitch however a number of those decisions were probably forced into as short term decisions just to survive.

Looking back now what should the club have done immediately post relegation off the pitch ( ie ignoring the fact Strachan should have been sacked the next day!)

Serious suggestions welcome
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You would have to say Ranson not getting his wish of appointing Robins as manager nearly two years ago because he left and Thorn managed to keep us up in those last few games. You have to wonder what Robins could have done with that squad?
 
Black6Osprey

Black6Osprey

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We should have hired a hitman to take out McGinnity. The man who sold our share in the stadium to Higgs for nothing and was at the heart of all things shit in the Ricoh fiasco and also ousted Eric Black for Peter Reid. Everyone kicks Richardson and Robinson for obvious reasons but McGinnity always seems to slip under the radar. Richardson had some vision but didn't have the business brain to back it up and Robinson put a lot of money into the club which can't be denied. McGinnity sold the silverware and supports the Baggies.
 
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