stevefloyd
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I would think if the club thought he was going to be a good player they may have been a little more lenient but as it happens that didn't happen
Safe to say from their forum the fans are not in agreeance....Hickman played as a trialist for Mansfield Town against Alfreton Town yesterday.
My mate said he did ok & manager happy too.
http://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/john-dempster-gives-his-verdict-on-mansfield-town-s-win-at-alfreton-town-1-9875804/amp
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Safe to say from their forum the fans are not in agreeance....
I think he should only be moved on for footballing reasons. Don't bin him off for acting like a knob, we would shoot ourselves in the foot by doing so.
Extremely curious to see how this plays out. Very highly rated 2 years ago, I imagine before this outburst a league 2 loan would have been on the cards. One thing's for sure he's got motivation to do well
If it was a consistently bad attitude / destructive lifestyle, then yes.Would you ever kick a player out for non football reasons?
It's okay, the wind blew and it took it offNeeds to be sold just because of that tash
I think that's key. If a one-off, possibly harsh. If part of a pattern, bin him off.If it was a consistently bad attitude / destructive lifestyle, then yes.
I think that's key. If a one-off, possibly harsh. If part of a pattern, bin him off.
I'm not sure it is harsh. If I slagged off my employer and/or their customers on social media I'd be sacked. I've seen it happen on a number of occasions to other people.
But in football, good talents are precious. A decent player is not as easily replaceable as someone in a normal job. We only stand to benefit from his performances if he improves his attitude thanks to some disciplinary measures. No point cutting our noses off just to be hard headed.
Suspect if he was more highly thought of it would have been a fine and being told to get his act together.Is he that good or precious?
Is he that good or precious?
I honestly don't know. I was talking more "in principle" rather than his specific case i.e. if we'd otherwise want to keep hold him, don't kick him out for the sake of his social media faux pas.
But in football, good talents are precious. A decent player is not as easily replaceable as someone in a normal job. We only stand to benefit from his performances if he improves his attitude thanks to some disciplinary measures. No point cutting our noses off just to be hard headed.
What cost the future academy players though?
Just devils advocate, hypothetical: if there was an issue identified in the academy that this sort of attitude was stopping several players reaching their potential. Would it be worth sacrificing one to save more in the future?
I think that's key. If a one-off, possibly harsh. If part of a pattern, bin him off.
Bet you were still cheering when he was scoring goals for usOr if Marlon King sign and praise him as many did, disgracefully.
About the only time been in agreement with Anne Lucas.
Bet you were still cheering when he was scoring goals for us
No, I didn't, man was a grade a c**t, as were those chanting "She loved it" etc.
Didn't condone the 'she said yes Marlon' or 'shes a slag Marlon' chants form our fans, however I supported Kingwhilst he was with us. He served his time and returned to his career as any normal human would do after a spell in jail.No, I didn't, man was a grade a c**t, as were those chanting "She loved it" etc.
Didn't condone the 'she said yes Marlon' or 'shes a slag Marlon' chants form our fans, however I supported Kingwhilst he was with us. He served his time and returned to his career as any normal human would do after a spell in jail.
P.S. 6500 Leeds fans chanting 'she said no marlon' reamins to be one of the funniest chants I have heard in football!
Footballers work within the community including with children so they should hold enhanced DBS checks. If they can't get one it's tough luck. I'm all for giving people a second chance when they've spent time at Her Majesty's pleasure but would a teacher be allowed to go back to his or her job after that conviction? They would have to change their career. King is no different.
The key difference is teachers work with minors on a day-to-day basis. Footballers don’t.
They have community commitments and engagements, but that’s not an essential characteristic of their job. I’m all for keeping criminals being banned from those engagements, but not from football.
In this day and age it is.
Messi/Telfer lolSurely they don't think he's got the ability which helped them make the decision to get rid. If he was as good as Messi/Telfer he would have been kept.
In this day and age it is.
Disagree. It’s a nice to have but it’s not essential. I’d be pissed if I couldn’t do my job because of something unrelated to the core competencies.
Also, if you’ve served your time you’ve done your crime. I’ve worked with ex cons who have gone into schools and they’ve been some of the best mentors kids can have. Who you are matters more than what you’ve done and there’s plenty of “innocent” footballers I’d want nowhere near kids.
Would agree if it was a one off youthful indiscretion, served his time, remorseful, and turned over a new leaf etc
Not the case with King though, already had 14 convictions, including 2 custodial sentences, before joining us, and has been jailed again since.
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