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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,186
Jamesimus said:
McNally was excellent and a massive step up from Hyam and Rose. If Hyam went for a million, McNally is easily worth 3 million imo
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McNally wasnt a MASSIVe step up from Hyam. Yes big step up from Rose agreed.

I think Hyam went for over £2M and is worth probably double that now hes an international and was their player of the season.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,187
Londonccfcfan said:
McNally wasnt a MASSIVe step up from Hyam. Yes big step up from Rose agreed.

I think Hyam went for over £2M and is worth probably double that now hes an international and was their player of the season.
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In my opinion mcnally was far better than hyam
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,188
Balli001 said:
In my opinion mcnally was far better than hyam
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I respect your opinion.
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,189
Londonccfcfan said:
McNally wasnt a MASSIVe step up from Hyam. Yes big step up from Rose agreed.
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Was for me

I rated Hyam as well for what it's worth.
 
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Pete in Portugal

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,190
Grendel said:
Why?
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21 games playing for a minor team in league 2

51 games playing in league 1

No experience of playing in Championship

He'd have to be rated as an outstanding prospect to be valued at £1m. He might be, but I think it's unlikely, given his career to date.

I think Burnley are overvaluing him, and to a lesser extent McNally, in order to reduce the cash element.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,191
Pete in Portugal said:
21 games playing for a minor team in league 2

51 games playing in league 1

No experience of playing in Championship

He'd have to be rated as an outstanding prospect to be valued at £1m. He might be, but I think it's unlikely, given his career to date.

I think Burnley are overvaluing him, and to a lesser extent McNally, in order to reduce the cash element.
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Neither had mcnally or Doyle until last season
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,192
Pete in Portugal said:
I think Burnley are overvaluing him, and to a lesser extent McNally, in order to reduce the cash element.
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Your valuation of the guy is completely off, but you have at least hit the nail on the head as to why part-exchange deals are usually bad ideas.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,193
As for the chances of Hamer signing a new contract at City, Robins said: "Look, that's something that he knows where we stand and he knows where he stands, and we just get on with things. There's a massive respect there from him. He respects everything we do and have done for him, and continue to do, and I think that's something that. you know, the way that he is and the way that he works, that's why everyone loves him because his attitude is good.


"He works with everyone and doesn't pull against anyone. He's not shown any dissent. He is coming into the last year of his contract so he knows where he sits, but he also knows that we want him and would like him to stay for at least another 12 months, and then let's see where we are after that.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,194
fernandopartridge said:
Clueless
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His passing isn’t very good
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,195
Jamesimus said:
McNally was excellent and a massive step up from Hyam and Rose. If Hyam went for a million, McNally is easily worth 3 million imo
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As I said he is a good defender. However his passing was poor and I think this season we may want to play more of a passing game rather than the long ball to Gyokeres approach of parts of last season.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,196
SeaSeeEffCee said:
But GIMOC told us he’d signed weeks ago?
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That was in Portugal where Burnley’s mind control contrails can’t reach.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,197
SleepyGinger said:
His passing isn’t very good
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He runs himself into trouble as well. You can see why he didn’t play for Burnley. I think people rate him a bit higher because of how poor our RCB position was since Hyam left. He’s very good, but he’s not worth more than Ellis Simms.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,198
SleepyGinger said:
His passing isn’t very good
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Neither was Hyam's which was what the inference was

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Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,199
shmmeee said:
He runs himself into trouble as well. You can see why he didn’t play for Burnley. I think people rate him a bit higher because of how poor our RCB position was since Hyam left. He’s very good, but he’s not worth more than Ellis Simms.
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No I rate him highly because he is an excellent defender
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,200
I’d have McNally back for reasonable price but if Burnley start quoting silly amount I’d look elsewhere.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,201
fernandopartridge said:
Neither was Hyam's which was what the inference was

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Hyam was good at passing - behind his wingback and onto his wrong foot.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,202
clint van damme said:
91 pages of baseless speculation, great work everyone.
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It's good isn't it? We aren't talking about SISU, administration, Timmy, Joy, Northampton, Birmingham, NOPM, Loyal fans, shit managers, shit owners or anything like that. What a refreshing change.

Here's hoping there is some more stuff going on in the background. In the meantime, I'm happy with the way things are!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,203
Balli001 said:
No I rate him highly because he is an excellent defender
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high*er* not high*ly*

Whats the most you’d pay for him?
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,204
shmmeee said:
high*er* not high*ly*

Whats the most you’d pay for him?
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Both. Clearly he has a valuation I don't deny that but I'd go to 4 million.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,205
Balli001 said:
Both. Clearly he has a valuation I don't deny that but I'd go to 4 million.
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Up front? For me we’ve just paid £3.5m for a young striker who has played in the Prem and was on for 20 goals last season, I wouldn’t pay more for an older defender who has only made it above L1 with us.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,206
shmmeee said:
Up front? For me we’ve just paid £3.5m for a young striker who has played in the Prem and was on for 20 goals last season, I wouldn’t pay more for an older defender who has only made it above L1 with us.
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But simms is up to 8 million.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,207
Flying Fokker said:
It's good isn't it? We aren't talking about SISU, administration, Timmy, Joy, Northampton, Birmingham, NOPM, Loyal fans, shit managers, shit owners or anything like that. What a refreshing change.

Here's hoping there is some more stuff going on in the background. In the meantime, I'm happy with the way things are!
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Yeah this arguing over football matters is tedious…

Where’s the stadium ownership arguments ffs
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,208
Balli001 said:
But simms is up to 8 million.
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If we play on the moon or whatever. In a cash plus players deal McNally would only be worth the up front fee.

Say £2m rising to £4m with add ons I’d be OK with.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,209
Esoterica said:
Hyam was good at passing - behind his wingback and onto his wrong foot.
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That's exactly what I was thinking about, the amount of times he failed to play the ball at the right time into the player's path and it broke our momentum.

Can't remember that being an issue with McNally and can't remember a pass from Hyam at anywhere near the level as the one McNally made to play Gyokeres in for the first goal v Sunderland.

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Balli001

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,210
shmmeee said:
If we play on the moon or whatever. In a cash plus players deal McNally would only be worth the up front fee.

Say £2m rising to £4m with add ons I’d be OK with.
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They paid 2 and he now has half a season championship experience.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,211
fernandopartridge said:
Neither was Hyam's which was what the inference was

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They are both very good defenders. Diateibution can be better. McNally is still 23 so can will improve. Hyams played well over 100 games in championship and more than proven himself at 2 clubs.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,212
When you think about it Hyam what a signing that was. Did the whole journey with us up the leagues. Signed for peanuts as decelopement player. Sold for upwards of £2.5M profit potentially more to come. And we got 5 years good service out of him.

If we can half of that service/contribution/profit from any of our new defenders will be great.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,213
Think we are looking at McNally through sky blue tinted glasses.
He was good yea,but not that good when he first came.
Plenty of mistakes in him at the start. We improved him and he was becoming a good prospect by the end of the season.He has a lot of improving to do.
Personally I think Burnley paid too much for him.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,214
Londonccfcfan said:
When you think about it Hyam what a signing that was. Did the whole journey with us up the leagues. Signed for peanuts as decelopement player. Sold for upwards of £2.5M profit potentially more to come. And we got 5 years good service out of him.

If we can half of that service/contribution/profit from any of our new defenders will be great.
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Wait, what? We didn't get over £2.5m for Hyam??
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,215
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, what? We didn't get over £2.5m for Hyam??
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Think we did, apparently there was reports it was more than the supposed 1.5 million that was being quoted everywhere
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,216
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, what? We didn't get over £2.5m for Hyam??
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Financial revelation emerges on Blackburn Rovers and Coventry City transfer agreement for Dom Hyam

The defender joined for a bigger fee than reported.
footballleagueworld.co.uk
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,217
Warwickshire lad said:
Think we are looking at McNally through sky blue tinted glasses.
He was good yea,but not that good when he first came.
Plenty of mistakes in him at the start. We improved him and he was becoming a good prospect by the end of the season.He has a lot of improving to do.
Personally I think Burnley paid too much for him.
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Hmm, think he was pretty good straight away, no?
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,218
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, what? We didn't get over £2.5m for Hyam??
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According to some reports ..more to come.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,219
Wowzers - didn't see that.

And all those that moaned that we sold him for peanuts/next to nothing when it happened.

Just shows that no one really knows what's going on.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2023
  • #3,220
Skyblueweeman said:
Wowzers - didn't see that.

And all those that moaned that we sold him for peanuts/next to nothing when it happened.

Just shows that no one really knows what's going on.
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It was a one off payment of around £1.8 million
 
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