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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,011
Deleted member 9744 said:
I really like Sheaf but he's nowhere near the player Hamer is. Waiting for Sick Boy to appear now.
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Apples and oranges. They play two totally different roles for the team. Too many FM managers who think Kelly Sheaf Hamer Allen and Eccles are interchangeable because they’ve all got CM as their position.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,012
shmmeee said:
Apples and oranges. They play two totally different roles for the team. Too many FM managers who think Kelly Sheaf Hamer Allen and Eccles are interchangeable because they’ve all got CM as their position.
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yeh, the only thing for certain is that Sheaf and Hamer are the best 2 and arguably the best 2 in the division.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,013
Greggs said:
And being a 'London' side helps. Wonder what their changing facilities are like?
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Mixed for that bohemian mix.🫣
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,014
GIMOC very active on twitter this morning.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,015
Evo1883 said:
I mean , when we talk about the brentford model .. isn't this exactly what they do .. the return on investment is monstrous .. 2.2 million To 32/35 million
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They also paid over £40 million in wages in the championship and the owner ploughed £100m in
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,016
Ccfcisparks said:
GIMOC very active on twitter this morning.
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Did the RAF do a fly past?
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,017
Ccfcisparks said:
GIMOC very active on twitter this morning.
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what's he saying?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,018
Kingokings204 said:
what's he saying?
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Usual stuff about King not investing.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,019
Ccfcisparks said:
GIMOC very active on twitter this morning.
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Who is he on twitter?
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,020
Gynnsthetonic said:
Who is he on twitter?
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His account is GIMOC90
 

larry_david

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,021
GIMOC was right about a few things, made claims on others. Ultimately the Hamer signed a new deal post it where I shall judge him!
 
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nicksar

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,022
The reality is if Gus doesn't sign a new contract then he will be sold,we can't afford to let him go for free at the end of his contract much like the situation with Vik.
Just hope he does accept what is for Coventry a very good contract offer
 

Martin180

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,023
Ccfcisparks said:
GIMOC very active on twitter this morning.
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Thought WhatsApp was his thing.....
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,024
nicksar said:
The reality is if Gus doesn't sign a new contract then he will be sold,we can't afford to let him go for free at the end of his contract much like the situation with Vik.
Just hope he does accept what is for Coventry a very good contract offer
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If he's worth 15 with one year left, how much is he worth under a new 4 year deal? I understand selling Vic, he wanted to go, whereas Gus seems like he'd be happy to stay. Dug Out
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,025
Evo1883 said:
You'd hope the club had even slightly thought this may happen and have targets in mind
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Considering we seem to change our recruiting him every year or two doesn't suggest there seems to be much long term thought to it
 
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Levship20

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,026
ccfcricoh said:
as most have said, if he signs excellent, if he doesnt, he clearly wants out and so we move on, as hard as it is to say.

if we can add 5/6 £3m players with the Gyok/Hamer money, we will be in a better place than we have been for a long time in terms of finances and squad depth, and i dont necessarily think we need to make all those signings in this window
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Don’t forget those 5/6 players need paying, so it isn’t just a matter of putting all the money back in. Need to consider FFP rules whilst ensuring we are not breaking our own bank on wages. Would imagine if we were to be able to reinvest all the transfer funds if Gus was to go, the figure on spending would be more like 8-9m.
 

Martin180

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,027
nicksar said:
The reality is if Gus doesn't sign a new contract then he will be sold,we can't afford to let him go for free at the end of his contract much like the situation with Vik.
Just hope he does accept what is for Coventry a very good contract offer
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Losing Brereton-Diaz for nothing has worked well for Blackburn
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,028
Ccfcisparks said:
We've replaced Gyokeres with Simms. Are you suggesting we wouldn't do the same for Hamer?
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Where have I said that? I was talking about the Brentford model.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,029
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
......the play-off finalists from 22/23 beg to differ.....
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I keep seeing this but it isn’t the norm - Coventry v Luton in the play off final was not expected.

next season I fully expect it to go back to its normal self.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,030
fernandopartridge said:
Where have I said that? I was talking about the Brentford model.
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You said you can't see us emulating their model by identifying and buying replacements?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,031
Ccfcisparks said:
You said you can't see us emulating their model by identifying and buying replacements?
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That model relies on already having identified and in some cases bought a replacement, not sure we're like that.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,032
fernandopartridge said:
That model relies on already having identified and in some cases bought a replacement, not sure we're like that.
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So you think we hadn't identified potential replacements for Gyokeres ahead of this summer? I'd find that extremely unlikely.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,033
Levship20 said:
Totally agree, let’s not forget, it won’t be the club not trying and Gus himself will not be holding the club to ransom but his agent will be on overtime and pushing like mad for more money, whether this is with us or another club.
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You do realise that agents are hired by players and are instructed by players - they're not the ones forcing their clients to move ffs.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,034
Ccfcisparks said:
So you think we hadn't identified potential replacements for Gyokeres ahead of this summer? I'd find that extremely unlikely.
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We had Gyokeres’ replacement through the door before Vik had even left
 

Robinshio

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,035
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I keep seeing this but it isn’t the norm - Coventry v Luton in the play off final was not expected.

next season I fully expect it to go back to its normal self.
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huddersfield and Luton got in the play offs last year, Barnsley the year before - the normal is that there is room for 1 or 2 teams to over perform
 
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Levship20

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,036
Sick Boy said:
You do realise that agents are hired by players and are instructed by players - they're not the ones forcing their clients to move ffs.
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A player will always have an agent and in some cases the arm round the shoulder, the investor, the personal manager etc so it isn’t always the player, taking into consideration the agent gets a cut of that monthly/ weekly wage “ffs”
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,037
Ccfcisparks said:
So you think we hadn't identified potential replacements for Gyokeres ahead of this summer? I'd find that extremely unlikely.
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No. What am I saying is that I don't believe we do as a matter of course, I don't think we succession plan in the way that Brentford or Brighton do. Gyokeres granted we had but we had clearly anticipated receiving a big fee for him and made plans. If Hamer was to go in the next week or two I'm not sure such advanced plans would be in place unless signing Kelly for another year is it.
 
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Samo

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,038
fernandopartridge said:
No. What am I saying is that I don't believe we do as a matter of course, I don't think we succession plan in the way that Brentford or Brighton do. Gyokeres granted we had but we had clearly anticipated receiving a big fee for him and made plans. If Hamer was to go in the next week or two I'm not sure such advanced plans would be in place unless signing Kelly for another year is it.
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Why on earth would you think they haven't planned for that eventuality? That would be absurdly stupid.
 
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Calista

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,039
shmmeee said:
Who have we had that far above the level in the last 25 years? I’d argue Vik and before him it was Keane.
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Maddison, Wilson - I realise they were young when they left, but in terms of talent both genuinely top flight / international level. So far (and especially the last few months) Gus has proved himself a cracking Championship midfielder and I really hope he stays.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,040
Calista said:
Maddison, Wilson - I realise they were young when they left, but in terms of talent both genuinely top flight / international level. So far (and especially the last few months) Gus has proved himself a cracking Championship midfielder and I really hope he stays.
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They were young lower league prospects really. We were never going to get £10m+ for them. If we were at this level and kept them a couple more years maybe.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,041
Levship20 said:
A player will always have an agent and in some cases the arm round the shoulder, the investor, the personal manager etc so it isn’t always the player, taking into consideration the agent gets a cut of that monthly/ weekly wage “ffs”
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Not sure if you're just naive, clueless or both.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,042
Samo said:
Why on earth would you think they haven't planned for that eventuality? That would be absurdly stupid.
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I've supported the club for a long time and this sort of absurd stupidity occurs again and again.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,043
Samo said:
Why on earth would you think they haven't planned for that eventuality? That would be absurdly stupid.
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Quite. Of course they'll have players in mind should Hamer leave, as they did with Gyokeres.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,044
Greggs said:
Fuck this, if we sell Hamer I've had enough of this shitty little club showing no ambition.
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Join the journey mate x


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Manchester_sky_blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2023
  • #3,045
fernandopartridge said:
No. What am I saying is that I don't believe we do as a matter of course, I don't think we succession plan in the way that Brentford or Brighton do. Gyokeres granted we had but we had clearly anticipated receiving a big fee for him and made plans. If Hamer was to go in the next week or two I'm not sure such advanced plans would be in place unless signing Kelly for another year is it.
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I agree. It would be nice if we could get to the position where the replacements are already signed long before we get to the point of stars leaving, ready to step up.
 
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