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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,241
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Try to take the emotion out of it for a moment and think with a logical, reasoned mind. Considering only the facts, try to answer the following questions:

1) Have we as a club made positive progress year on year since Mark Robins became manager?

2) Has Mark Robins or any other member of the management of the club said or done anything recently to make you doubt that they are in any way less committed or otherwise unable to continue the upward trajectory of the club?

3) Do you have any evidence that our budget or off-field business is in any way worse than the last 6 seasons?

4) Have we begin to recruit to replace players lost from last season?

5) Do we still have time to recruit more players?

6) Are other teams in the division in a similar position to us at this stage of pre-season?
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oh mate I agree MR has took us forward massively no doubt and I do trust the gaffer

I don’t know maybe cos I’m late 20’s I’m not used to seeing really really good players leave

and yes we have began to replace players which I’m happy with and have praised DK for this, should probably judge at the end of the window.

pusb
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,242
Covcraig@bury said:
No you take the money but posters on here are saying replace him with 2 players . It’s not that easy to get quality players like Hamer , if it was then the clubs looking at Hamer would be looking elsewhere
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Exactly, that’s why I said we need 2 players

I agree with you pal
 

andrew.roberts

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,243
As much as I'd love to see Hamer renew and be the driving force behind a promotion push this coming season, regardless of how happy he is here if a premier league club come knocking with an offer which is too good to refuse he is likely to go.
Unfortunately the only people with 100% loyalty to a football club are us, the fans.

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hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,244
Been saying it for years. And maybe I’m a dickhead. But as a Cov fan, if I was a player I’d go to Villa for more money. Don’t give a fuck.

Come back towards the end of my career for another payday. Sign a few shirts and give out a few high fives.
 
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higgs

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,245
Is he in any of the footage from day 4 in portugal?

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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,246
hill83 said:
Been saying it for years. And maybe I’m a dickhead. But as a Cov fan, if I was a player I’d go to Villa for more money. Don’t give a fuck.

Come back towards the end of my career for another payday. Sign a few shirts and give out a few high fives.
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Twilight end of career
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,247
All these ‘one club player legends who love the club’ as well. You reckon any of the Man United lot, Scholes and Giggs etc, would be one club heroes if they were at Stockport? It’s all bollocks.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,248
hill83 said:
All these ‘one club player legends who love the club’ as well. You reckon any of the Man United lot, Scholes and Giggs etc, would be one club heroes if they were at Stockport? It’s all bollocks.
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By the way I agree I with you, the supposedly love for the club is properly nieve being a fan

if you get offered double your wage, then that is fair enough

must admit Gus is the best player I’ve probably seen, so the emotion regarding it comes out
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,249
Matt smith said:
By the way I agree I with you, the supposedly love for the club is properly nieve being a fan

if you get offered double your wage, then that is fair enough

must admit Gus is the best player I’ve probably seen, so the emotion regarding it comes out
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Yeah no worries. I went about it the wrong way but essentially just relax and what will be will be. Be shit if he does leave though obviously.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,250
higgs said:
Is he in any of the footage from day 4 in portugal?

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I don't think so

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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,251
hill83 said:
Yeah no worries. I went about it the wrong way but essentially just relax and what will be will be. Be shit if he does leave though obviously.
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Don’t worry about it none taken buddy in the slightest, I know I do it myself

will be shit, finding the next one is on the agenda, can’t see us signing a proven player, maybe try and unearth another gem
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,252
Grendel said:
So if a premier club did want him and offers him £50k a week over 4 years we need to match that?
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No , it’s been mentioned Fulham are after him for said £15M which suggests to me they’ve looked around and there’s no one out there with his quality they could afford. If there was with proven Premiership quality they would out priced . We all know Hamer has that quality and we should keep/give him what he wants £20-£22k a week .
If he wants to go then sell , no good keeping him ( like Vik )
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,253
Exactly. If his head has been turned then obviously it’s time to go, but if it’s just a case of he wants a bit more for another season then give it him frankly.
 
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higgs

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,254
rexo87 said:
I don't think so

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Worrying

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Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,255
Covcraig@bury said:
No , it’s been mentioned Fulham are after him for said £15M which suggests to me they’ve looked around and there’s no one out there with his quality they could afford. If there was with proven Premiership quality they would out priced . We all know Hamer has that quality and we should keep/give him what he wants £20-£22k a week .
If he wants to go then sell , no good keeping him ( like Vik )
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No one knows he wants that to stay or indeed wants to stay at all
 

Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,256
hill83 said:
All these ‘one club player legends who love the club’ as well. You reckon any of the Man United lot, Scholes and Giggs etc, would be one club heroes if they were at Stockport? It’s all bollocks.
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Well no, they'd be Jim Gannon (another versatile CM legend).
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,257
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Grendel said:
So if a premier club did want him and offers him £50k a week over 4 years we need to match that?
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No, clearly not Gren, that would be crazy. It would then be up to him to take that offer - or be happy to accept what we could afford. We assume because it's a short career he would go for the big money, wouldn't blame him, but who knows his motivation. Perhaps he would prefer to be the well loved big fish in the smaller pond.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,258
rexo87 said:
I don't think so

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Sheaf and bidwell room mates
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,259
All this based off a couple of rumours
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,260
Finham said:
Well no, they'd be Jim Gannon (another versatile CM legend).
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Was that your player?
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,261
Stuart urquhart
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,262
higgs said:
Worrying

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He has - one of him and Palmer.
 

Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,263
Matt smith said:
Was that your player?
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Alan Brazil!
 
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ceetee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,264
Grendel said:
There’s the nonsense about him “loving the club” - like all players in a short career it’s about maximising your opportunity
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Exactly. Footballers can genuinely love the club they're at, just as you or I could enjoy our job, but you can't let that get in the way of your personal progress and betterment
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,265
Finham said:
Alan Brazil!
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Alan Brazil hahaha big boy is Brazil
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,266
Matt smith said:
Alan Brazil hahaha big boy is Brazil
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Was a great player for Ipswich - another I believe we took without doing a medical
 
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Astute

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,267
For all we know Hamer has already signed a new contract. Or at least they have agreed a new contract and will sign when they get back home. Maybe even will sign a new contract if a good enough offer for both Hamer and CCFC doesn't come in.

And why not? Gyokeres has gone yet nothing officially from our club has been released.
 
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Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,268
Matt smith said:
Alan Brazil hahaha big boy is Brazil
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Remember a clip of him that they kept playing on Talk Sport where he was "running" on a golf course and kept trying to update stuff live, seriously out of breath! Got more entertainment out of that than I did from his City career.

I presume someone has said Nii Lamptey?
 

Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,269
Grendel said:
Was a great player for Ipswich - another I believe we took without doing a medical
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If so, it showed!
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,270
Astute said:
For all we know Hamer has already signed a new contract. Or at least they have agreed a new contract and will sign when they get back home. Maybe even will sign a new contract if a good enough offer for both Hamer and CCFC doesn't come in.

And why not? Gyokeres has gone yet nothing officially from our club has been released.
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I doubt he’s signed a new deal if there’s so much noise around him, admittedly mostly poor paper talk but still
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,271
Finham said:
Remember a clip of him that they kept playing on Talk Sport where he was "running" on a golf course and kept trying to update stuff live, seriously out of breath! Got more entertainment out of that than I did from his City career.

I presume someone has said Nii Lamptey?
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His show with ally was great

do like white and Jordan I must admit
 

Finham

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,272
Astute said:
For all we know Hamer has already signed a new contract. Or at least they have agreed a new contract and will sign when they get back home. Maybe even will sign a new contract if a good enough offer for both Hamer and CCFC doesn't come in.

And why not? Gyokeres has gone yet nothing officially from our club has been released.
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Would explain that perma-grin in pre-season, he looks like a Cheshire cat. That or he's "been to see someone" back in Holland...
 
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Astute

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  • Jul 12, 2023
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Matt smith said:
I doubt he’s signed a new deal if there’s so much noise around him, admittedly mostly poor paper talk but still
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Lots of clubs were supposedly linked with Gyokeres yet only one club made a bid we know of.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,274
Astute said:
Lots of clubs were supposedly linked with Gyokeres yet only one club made a bid we know of.
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I’m just on about whether he’s signed a contract, to me it’s the agent trying to drum up interest, therefore I doubt a contract has been signed

but yes there could be no real concrete interest yet I agree
 

Telfer85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #2,275
I would love hamer to stay and I hope he does as it would be a massive boost for us. However, there’s nothing to say we haven’t now offered him what he wants and he still doesn’t want to sign or is weighing his options up. No one knows what the situation is.

I didn’t dream this did I but I’m sure the telegraph ran an article a month or so ago of an interview he did in Holland that basically read as a come and get me plea to Feyenoord?
 
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