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clint van damme

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,156
The writing has been on the wall for ages.
I DM'd a fellow poster back in April explaining one of the main factors behind it.
I'm not saying any more but it appears to me this is where the rumours of behind the scene rifts have come from.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,157
GIMOC said:
It’s certainly not a shock but some of the reasonings behind it are a potential issue
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I don't really understand how the reasons can be an issue?

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,158
Grendel said:
Invited to Boddys leaving do?
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More bothered about him not understanding the last few years have been very different to the previous 10 and some who’ve gifted a lot being treated like shit but yep annoyed at how Boddy and mark were treated at supporters forum
They are big enough to look after themselves though and as I say we’ve needed to make more money off the pitch and maybe that needs changes and experts brought in. Not just king thinking it’s a piece of piss it’s not
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,159
GIMOC said:
It’s certainly not a shock but some of the reasonings behind it are a potential issue
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Potentially an issue regarding the first team? That’s all I really care about
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,160
rexo87 said:
Nonsense. He needs to get in a proper football man to work with him, that's my point. Boddy did a good job in the lower leagues but he's completely out of his depth. With King being more hands on than the last regime and Boddy having no experience of this level of football, him in that role is pointless

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What’s nonsense????
We’ve gone frome league 2 to championship
Season tickets from thousand up to 13500

To say out of depth is a little unfair that’s all
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,161
rexo87 said:
I don't really understand how the reasons can be an issue?

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Unless it’s financially affecting the first team, exactly my thoughts
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,162
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s nonsense????
We’ve gone frome league 2 to championship
Season tickets from thousand up to 13500

To say out of depth is a little unfair that’s all
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You implied he needs Boddy around as a 'footballing man'. Boddy is a footballing man at much lower levels of the game than is needed

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clint van damme

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,163
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s nonsense????
We’ve gone frome league 2 to championship
Season tickets from thousand up to 13500

To say out of depth is a little unfair that’s all
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What contribution do you think Boddy's made to that?
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,164
clint van damme said:
The writing has been on the wall for ages.
I DM'd a fellow poster back in April explaining one of the main factors behind it.
I'm not saying any more but it appears to me this is where the rumours of behind the scene rifts have come from.
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Expand Clint
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,165
rexo87 said:
He's still down as head of recruitment on CCFC website but that could be wrong. Jamie Johnson is head of scouting.

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I think it’s a similar role with a different title. I’m sure it was said somewhere that Austin was in charge of long term strategy after they appointed Jamie Johnson
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,166
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s nonsense????
We’ve gone frome league 2 to championship
Season tickets from thousand up to 13500

To say out of depth is a little unfair that’s all
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Which was solely driven by the success on the pitch.

It's a nonsense to suggest otherwise.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,167
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I think it’s a similar role with a different title. I’m sure it was said somewhere that Austin was in charge of long term strategy after they appointed Jamie Johnson
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Potentially. Which makes Boddys role even more redundant!

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Matt smith

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,168
To be fair to @GIMOC, just heard from someone who would 1000% know about the hamer situation exactly what he’s said, he loves the club but club aren’t offering enough of an increase, balls is in covs court

bang on with the figures being quoted too by @Saddlebrains

give him that 2 grand extra a week DK or be prepared to have a pissed off SBA going in to what sounds like a rough summer

good luck…..
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,169
Matt smith said:
Expand Clint
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,170
GIMOC said:
It’s the circumstances. I would agree it’s a good thing but it’s the reasons
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Doesn't need Boddy as he can do it himself? (Unrest at King doing/getting involved in things)???
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,171
rexo87 said:
You implied he needs Boddy around as a 'footballing man'. Boddy is a footballing man at much lower levels of the game than is needed

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Didn’t imply it I say it no question he needs people who understand football and should listen to them to make key decisions
As I say that’s all
I am sensitive but I don’t like people who treat others like less than them cause he thinks he doesn’t need them
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,172
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Which was solely driven by the success on the pitch.

It's a nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Course it is but wtaf
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,173
Matt smith said:
Expand Clint
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Yeah, come on Clint, we won’t tell anyone
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,174
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course it is but wtaf
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He hasn't really done anything notable during his tenure other than the absolute bare basics. You can surely see why DK wants to potentially get rid and either replace him with someone of a far higher calibre or take on the role himself?
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,175
shepardo01 said:
Doesn't need Boddy as he can do it himself? (Unrest at King doing/getting involved in things)???
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It’s not just boddy, others could be walking too. like I said. Until it’s official I won’t say too much as it’s people’s livelihoods etc…
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,176
clint van damme said:
The writing has been on the wall for ages.
I DM'd a fellow poster back in April explaining one of the main factors behind it.
I'm not saying any more but it appears to me this is where the rumours of behind the scene rifts have come from.
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Matt smith said:
To be fair to @GIMOC, just heard from someone who would know 100% know about the hamer situation exactly what he’s said, he loves the club but club aren’t offering enough of an increase, balls is in covs court

bang on with the figures being quoted too

give him that 2 grand extra a week DK
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Is there anyone on this board who isn’t claiming to be an ITK at this point?
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,177
Sky Blue Pete said:
Didn’t imply it I say it no question he needs people who understand football and should listen to them to make key decisions
As I say that’s all
I am sensitive but I don’t like people who treat others like less than them cause he thinks he doesn’t need them
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He's got himself, Robins, Viveash, Austin. I don't see what Boddy brings to the table that those 4 don't already have. Let's not forget Boddys main job last season was to provide us with a football pitch to play on, that didn't go too well. Not sure I'd listen to him that much

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GIMOC

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,178
Matt smith said:
To be fair to @GIMOC, just heard from someone who would know 100% know about the hamer situation exactly what he’s said, he loves the club but club aren’t offering enough of an increase, balls is in covs court

bang on with the figures being quoted too

give him that 2 grand extra a week DK
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don’t let the truth get in the way on here Matt. I would hope once players are back in next week and robins being back could make the difference.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,179
GIMOC said:
It’s not just boddy, others could be walking too. like I said. Until it’s official I won’t say too much as it’s people’s livelihoods etc…
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We talking Tynan Scope as it’s now evident his running of the commercial side has been a shambles?
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,180
GIMOC said:
It’s not just boddy, others could be walking too. like I said. Until it’s official I won’t say too much as it’s people’s livelihoods etc…
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The sisu gang included Boddy and Tynan Scope so I'm guessing they'll be off. Given some things I've heard about Tynan I don't think that's a bad thing either

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clint van damme

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,181
SBT said:
Is there anyone on this board who isn’t claiming to be an ITK at this point?
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I don't claim to be ITK, but picked up some info regarding this issue from someone I trust and sent a DM back in April.

As for what's happening to othe members of the hierarchy, (whoever they are), or with Hamers contract, I have absolutely no idea.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,182
GIMOC said:
If only you knew why there is unrest. Your opinion might change then.
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It will all come out in the wash.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,183
GIMOC said:
don’t let the truth get in the way on here Matt. I would hope once players are back in next week and robins being back could make the difference.
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Actually gut wrenching when literally 20k and a good plan for the future and he’s signing up

100 k a year DK!!!!!!
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,184
GIMOC said:
It’s not just boddy, others could be walking too. like I said. Until it’s official I won’t say too much as it’s people’s livelihoods etc…
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I know those within the commercial team in particular are concerned as essentially they saw this summer as a bit of a watershed moment - in terms of none particularly felt that they were secure in their roles and the microscope was very much on them.

That's not really all that uncommon when a new owner comes in though. They'll often look to clear the decks as soon as they walk through the door.

Again, not really sure why this is such a big deal?
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,185
I think it’s obvious King doesn’t think much to the people running things day to day. As in he thinks they are incompetent and don’t have any basic business sense.

Remember runs his own hedge fund as well. He’s taken this on in terms of a failing business and to make it viable. Difficult of course when it comes to football.. but he’s hands on and heads will roll inevitably.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,186
GIMOC said:
It’s certainly not a shock but some of the reasonings behind it are a potential issue
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He’s been moonlighting as a window cleaner?
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,187
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I think it’s obvious King doesn’t think much to the people running things day to day. As in he thinks they are incompetent and don’t have any basic business sense.

Remember runs his own hedge fund as well. He’s taken this on in terms of a failing business and to make it viable. Difficult of course when it comes to football.. but he’s hands on and heads will roll inevitably.
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some might be pushed. Others leaving on their own accord is what I’m being told.
 
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hamil99

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,188
Great_Expectations said:
This has been a fantastic post work read.

All the trademarks of a classic SBT thread!
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Same here, and I'm only on page 32 of 34, I started on 27 !!

The melt downs amazing, it's like everyone's had just a little bit to much cocaine I'm looking forward to the remaining 2 pages.
 
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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,189
GIMOC said:
some might be pushed. Others leaving on their own accord is what I’m being told.
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That'd save a severance package I guess
 

GIMOC

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  • Jun 27, 2023
  • #1,190
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I know those within the commercial team in particular are concerned as essentially they saw this summer as a bit of a watershed moment - in terms of none particularly felt that they were secure in their roles and the microscope was very much on them.

That's not really all that uncommon when a new owner comes in though. They'll often look to clear the decks as soon as they walk through the door.

Again, not really sure why this is such a big deal?
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Timing is impeccable. if that was the plan then surely ideal timing would have been end of May. Not in the coming weeks
 
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