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Robinshio

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #666
David O'Day said:
nonsense
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Correct. We had low number of points but the start cost us 10 points. Keep hamer get o hare fit and some good work with recruitment and we won’t be far away!!
 
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napolimp

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #667
Robinshio said:
Correct. We had low number of points but the start cost us 10 points. Keep hamer get o hare fit and some good work with recruitment and we won’t be far away!!
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Such a shame about O'hare, realistically how long is it going to be before he's playing at previous level.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #668
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Thought Vik was found out a bit in the end . McNair had him in his pocket
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McNair who lost a tooth in the first leg and was substituted in the second?
 

Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #669
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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To be fair how do you know the players we sign won’t be good
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #670
Matt smith said:
To be fair how do you know the players we sign won’t be good
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They wont be. "Join the Journey" nonsense, we will go and sign sunday league players right.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #671
JimmyHillsbeard said:
McNair who lost a tooth in the first leg and was substituted in the second?
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He got subbed in the 88th minute when his team needed a goal to stay in the play offs!
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #672
napolimp said:
Such a shame about O'hare, realistically how long is it going to be before he's playing at previous level.
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He’s missed a lot of football and 2 major injuries. Don’t think he’ll be back to previous levels for a long while and he may need to change his game style to prevent future injuries.
 
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coop

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #673
Matt smith said:
To be fair how do you know the players we sign won’t be good
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I don't just what I think like I said I want to be up there again we all do just think last year was a season that was far better than anyone would of thought just can't see the likes of Norwich, Watford, Leeds,Leicester and a few of the so called bigger clubs having a poor season.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #674
JimmyHillsbeard said:
McNair who lost a tooth in the first leg and was substituted in the second?
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McNair was excellent against Vik until he got booked
 
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coop

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #675
Fingers crossed the new players we sign and we need alot are an improvement.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #676
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He got subbed in the 88th minute when his team needed a goal to stay in the play offs!
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Yep this is true. Who broke through the defence to assist the goal and who was supposed to be marking him?
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #677
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
McNair was excellent against Vik until he got booked
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Yes this is also true (he’s a v goods player). Who did he get booked for fouling?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #678
So on the one hand Gyokeres shouldn't be under valued,on the other some fans (hopefully the minority) decide he's not that good anyway?!?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #679
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Yep this is true. Who broke through the defence to assist the goal and who was supposed to be marking him?
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Yeah, the assist was basically him taking an shite touch to be fair
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #680
@SlowerThanPlatt and @HuckerbyDublinWhelan both make decent points, McNair played well and is a good player. I would argue however that on the balance of play across both legs Gyökeres came out on top. He certainly did better against the Boro defence than Archer and Akpom did against ours.

As was mentioned above in this thread, let’s not pretend that he wasn’t the best centre forward we’ve had since Regis and that we aren’t going to miss him.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #681
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Yes this is also true (he’s a v goods player). Who did he get booked for fouling?
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I think it was Vik. The point I was making that he was brilliant against Vik and kept him quiet for 150mins? Think he got booked around 60 mins in

of course Vik became free he started to get more involved and eventually set up Gus but for 150 out of 180, Vik was largely quiet. That was down to McNair
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #682
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Yep this is true. Who broke through the defence to assist the goal and who was supposed to be marking him?
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I think you’ve misunderstood, was addressing your strange point that a CB had a bad game because he got subbed (in the 88th minute)
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #683
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I think you’ve misunderstood, was addressing your strange point that a CB had a bad game because he got subbed (in the 88th minute)
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McNair was very good against Vik. See Luton want to sign him.
 

Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #684
Ccfcisparks said:
They wont be. "Join the Journey" nonsense, we will go and sign sunday league players right.
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Glad to see your on board now
 

Robinshio

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #685
AFCCOVENTRY said:
McNair was very good against Vik. See Luton want to sign him.
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Akpom wasn’t great v a 36 year old has been. Can’t judge on 2 games where gyok was carrying an injury and still got the assist for the winner
 

mmttww

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #686
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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PARKLIFE!
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #687
I am not the only person to say this but the last time we sold our top two goal scorers was selling Keane and McAllister. That fragmented a talented team, with catastrophic results.
If Hamer wants to go, the club can do little to stop it. Don’t forget McNultys recent jibe about leaving and earning 5xwages he was on at Cov. Put simply, Cov cannot compete with some other clubs for wages and breaking the wage structure is unlikely to be a tactic Doug King will do.
This is a dangerous moment, with high expectations and the potential for a weaker squad than last year.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #688
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #689
DrPoolittle said:
I am not the only person to say this but the last time we sold our top two goal scorers was selling Keane and McAllister. That fragmented a talented team, with catastrophic results.
If Hamer wants to go, the club can do little to stop it. Don’t forget McNultys recent jibe about leaving and earning 5xwages he was on at Cov. Put simply, Cov cannot compete with some other clubs for wages and breaking the wage structure is unlikely to be a tactic Doug King will do.
This is a dangerous moment, with high expectations and the potential for a weaker squad than last year.
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Hi boosh, back again? Bye boosh
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #690
DrPoolittle said:
I am not the only person to say this but the last time we sold our top two goal scorers was selling Keane and McAllister. That fragmented a talented team, with catastrophic results.
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We did have Strachan in charge though.

Don't get me wrong, it's a massive task to replace them, but we are a level lower, and our money would in theory go further in this division, along with having a half-competent manager!

What we're never going to do is be consistently successful as long as we rely on a couple of players maintaining top form with a cast of loanees who then bog off elsewhere the next season.
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #691
David O'Day said:
Hi boosh, back again? Bye boosh
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Looks like you are badly wrong. And not for the first time, methinks
 

Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #692
DrPoolittle said:
I am not the only person to say this but the last time we sold our top two goal scorers was selling Keane and McAllister. That fragmented a talented team, with catastrophic results.
If Hamer wants to go, the club can do little to stop it. Don’t forget McNultys recent jibe about leaving and earning 5xwages he was on at Cov. Put simply, Cov cannot compete with some other clubs for wages and breaking the wage structure is unlikely to be a tactic Doug King will do.
This is a dangerous moment, with high expectations and the potential for a weaker squad than last year.
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If hamer goes the squad will be better in terms of depth in quality

but I’d rather keep Gus and sacrifice depth in a position or two
 
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DrPoolittle

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #693
Deleted member 5849 said:
We did have Strachan in charge though.

Don't get me wrong, it's a massive task to replace them, but we are a level lower, and our money would in theory go further in this division, along with having a half-competent manager!

What we're never going to do is be consistently successful as long as we rely on a couple of players maintaining top form with a cast of loanees who then bog off elsewhere the next season.
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I think the concern is about how we replace two critical players, assuming Hamer goes, as well as bolstering the defence to replace last year’s loan players
 

Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #694
Robinshio said:
Correct. We had low number of points but the start cost us 10 points. Keep hamer get o hare fit and some good work with recruitment and we won’t be far away!!
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That is a good point to be fair

if We’d have had a normal start to the season I reckon we’d have got minimum 6 more points
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #695
DrPoolittle said:
I think the concern is about how we replace two critical players, assuming Hamer goes, as well as bolstering the defence to replace last year’s loan players
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Well of course it's a concern, only a mentalist would deny it's going to hurt.

But we are where we are, there might have to be a spot of short term pain for long term gain.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #696
Deleted member 5849 said:
We did have Strachan in charge though.

Don't get me wrong, it's a massive task to replace them, but we are a level lower, and our money would in theory go further in this division, along with having a half-competent manager!

What we're never going to do is be consistently successful as long as we rely on a couple of players maintaining top form with a cast of loanees who then bog off elsewhere the next season.
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Our subsequent relegations in 2012 and 2017 both involved not having the previous season's top scorer(s)

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 22, 2023
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fernandopartridge said:
Our subsequent relegations in 2012 and 2017 both involved not having the previous season's top scorer(s)

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The last one was exactly why relying on loans is bad as when they sod off, there's no compensation to fund replacements so you're hoping for lightning to strike twice.

For Thorn, read Strachan!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #698
fernandopartridge said:
Our subsequent relegations in 2012 and 2017 both involved not having the previous season's top scorer(s)

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Good job we kept Hiwula in 2019!
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #699
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well of course it's a concern, only a mentalist would deny it's going to hurt.

But we are where we are, there might have to be a spot of short term pain for long term gain.
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Keep Gus and spend 7-10 million and we’ll have a great chance
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #700
If Gus did go… how much do you think we’d get for him?


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