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shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #631
cooperskyblue said:
Nonsense. King has said he wants to build a squad that can compete at the top end of this league in and around the playoffs.

I'm with everyone else that I would do everything we can to keep Hamer. But we do have to have a wage structure at the club. And we do need it to be sustainable.

Because it’s easy for us to say it's just 1 player and arguably our best player. But it will have a knock on effect on the wages expected fromthe rest of our current squad as well as new signings that come in.
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Why? If anyone says they want what Hamer is on you say then have the impact he does. It’s £20k at top end Championship level. It’s not significantly out of whack with the going rate. Rumour was its what we were paying Palmer last season as part of his transfer. New signings is completely different. This is Gus’ third contract with us, he’s a known entity who has proven his worth.

If King wants to compete at the top end he has to finance top end wages. We aren’t talking Burnley level, but we should be in the same market as the likes of Boro and Blackburn for example.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #632
fernandopartridge said:
Losing Vic and Hamer would imo put the club in serious trouble next season, you just cannot take that amount of goal contributions out of a team in one go.

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It'd undoubtedly be a challenge. Would depend how many other players came in to improve as a whole. Viveash at least seems tactically astute to adjust to the players at the club too.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #633
fernandopartridge said:
Losing Vic and Hamer would imo put the club in serious trouble next season, you just cannot take that amount of goal contributions out of a team in one go.

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Flip side is, say we get £25-30m from their combined sales which can be reinvested back into the team, then you can replace that and make the overall squad a lot stronger.
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #634
napolimp said:
If you got the Premier League Package, then you probably did.
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On top of that
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #635
shmmeee said:
Why? If anyone says they want what Hamer is on you say then have the impact he does. It’s £20k at top end Championship level. It’s not significantly out of whack with the going rate. Rumour was its what we were paying Palmer last season as part of his transfer. New signings is completely different. This is Gus’ third contract with us, he’s a known entity who has proven his worth.

If King wants to compete at the top end he has to finance top end wages. We aren’t talking Burnley level, but we should be in the same market as the likes of Boro and Blackburn for example.
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This is what I’ve been saying - you can’t ask for top 6 regularly if we’re not matching the teams in the top 10 without parachute payments.
 
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Macca1987

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #636
All this shot about buying other players in with the Hamer money
Just pay the hoing rate, he’s quality and will only get better next season
Starting again with an unknown is crap
Hamer leads this team again next year and everyone is happy
PUSB
 
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Macca1987

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #637
Shit not shot lol
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #638
shmmeee said:
If we can’t afford £20k/wk for a player of his calibre the wage structure needs changing. If we had a team of Hamers we’d win the league at a canter. It’s not every day a player of that quality wants to stay. And if it was that would be great.
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Has it been confirmed that 20k/wk will do it? I agree, that it doesn't seem out of the realms of possibility of what we should be paying our top talent. "Breaking the bank" as I've heard people mention, would be foolish.

Now we are going for better standard of players there is a good chance that they'll want clauses to match the top earners. We do need to have a strict wage budget because before you know it, in a few years time we could end up with a team of Waghorns.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #639
Andy Turner on a roll today and rehashed this thread into an article just now

2 out of 2 today… maybe a hat trick later with Tom O’Connor?
 
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napolimp

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #640
SkyBlueMatt said:
Has it been confirmed that 20k/wk will do it? I agree, that it doesn't seem out of the realms of possibility of what we should be paying our top talent. "Breaking the bank" as I've heard people mention, would be foolish.

Now we are going for better standard of players there is a good chance that they'll want clauses to match the top earners. We do need to have a strict wage budget because before you know it, in a few years time we could end up with a team of Waghorns.
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And there I was thinking the dream was a team of Gary Breen's.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #641
SkyBlueMatt said:
Has it been confirmed that 20k/wk will do it? I agree, that it doesn't seem out of the realms of possibility of what we should be paying our top talent. "Breaking the bank" as I've heard people mention, would be foolish.

Now we are going for better standard of players there is a good chance that they'll want clauses to match the top earners. We do need to have a strict wage budget because before you know it, in a few years time we could end up with a team of Waghorns.
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No, it’s just a rumour on here that became fact.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #642
GIMOC said:
I will try and find out today
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So is this another “Watch this space” situation, or does Hamer not let the info slip til after Eastenders has finished?
 

GIMOC

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #643
SBT said:
So is this another “Watch this space” situation, or does Hamer not let the info slip til after Eastenders has finished?
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he’s more of an hollyoaks man.
 
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mmttww

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #644
shmmeee said:
Why? If anyone says they want what Hamer is on you say then have the impact he does. It’s £20k at top end Championship level. It’s not significantly out of whack with the going rate. Rumour was its what we were paying Palmer last season as part of his transfer. New signings is completely different. This is Gus’ third contract with us, he’s a known entity who has proven his worth.

If King wants to compete at the top end he has to finance top end wages. We aren’t talking Burnley level, but we should be in the same market as the likes of Boro and Blackburn for example.
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Dunno about being in the same market as them all the time. Agree that Hamer's a known quantity and worth the stretch, but we can't afford more than a few at that rate. Freebies? Fine. We're not going to pay seven figures for someone and pay them loads each week. Too much of a jump to expect.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #645
mmttww said:
Dunno about being in the same market as them all the time. Agree that Hamer's a known quantity and worth the stretch, but we can't afford more than a few at that rate. Freebies? Fine. We're not going to pay seven figures for someone and pay them loads each week. Too much of a jump to expect.
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We didn’t do that with Hamer. You can have a wage structure that allows loyal and proven players to earn good wages while keeping risk low on newer players. I don’t want us buying big names for loads of cash, but someone in their fourth year at the club who has had impact is totally different.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 21, 2023
  • #646
GIMOC said:
he’s more of an hollyoaks man.
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Better birds on Hollyoaks

Don’t get none of this skanky Kat Slater’s on Hollyoaks


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MAFF

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #647
I had a dream a few nights ago he signed for Leicester.

Make of that what you will.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #648
MAFF said:
I had a dream a few nights ago he signed for Leicester.

Make of that what you will.
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You've got a dirty mind.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #649
Any updates @GIMOC?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #650
GIMOC said:
he’s more of an hollyoaks man.
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@GIMOC Gone a bit quiet on the Hamer contract talks from Monday. Any idea where things are at?
 

GIMOC

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #651
AFCCOVENTRY said:
@GIMOC Gone a bit quiet on the Hamer contract talks from Monday. Any idea where things are at?
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potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #652
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #653
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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Perryccfc

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #654
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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I don't know if I trust you or not but fuck I'm turned on
 
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mmttww

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #655
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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"Watch this space..."

Really hope you're onto something, though.

Huge if we keep him. Best signing possible.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #656
GIMOC Ill be getting a tattoo of you if it all works out.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jun 22, 2023
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #658
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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This will be bigger than any other signing this summer. Fingers crossed
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #659
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #660
GIMOC said:
potential good news. nothing 100 percent but I would be quietly confident
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What you drinking tonight mate?

 
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coop

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #661
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #662
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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BINGO
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #663
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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Doooom
 

ccfcchris

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  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #664
shmmeee said:
We didn’t do that with Hamer. You can have a wage structure that allows loyal and proven players to earn good wages while keeping risk low on newer players. I don’t want us buying big names for loads of cash, but someone in their fourth year at the club who has had impact is totally different.
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I agree with you on this.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2023
  • #665
coop said:
I'll say it now and ready to be shot at if we can't keep Gus, relegation battle ahead.We are not going out and buying top players so need to keep the ones we have.Our big chance of promotion was last season when all the so called top sides of the division were shit ( bit like when Fester won Premier league)Fingers crossed I'm totally wrong but this season will be really tough as all the other sides will strengthen.
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nonsense
 
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