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shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,901
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We still require an LCB and a third forward.
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They can be loans though.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,902
shmmeee said:
They can be loans though.
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Be better for us if they weren't, but I agree
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,903
covcity4life said:
We might have prem money

Forget 20m obviously we sell for that

But if we don't get a good offer now(for me I've revised that down to 5m) then I don't think we should sell and rather have benefits of him playing in this promotion chasing team for one last year and then leaving on a free.
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I'd trust us to replace him pretty well with 5 million. Even if the replacement was only half as good initially it would be fine with the improvements we've made elsewhere.

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TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,904
Glad Sheaf signed a contract btw. What a player he is.

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covcity4life

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,905
TomRad85 said:
I'd trust us to replace him pretty well with 5 million. Even if the replacement was only half as good initially it would be fine with the improvements we've made elsewhere.

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Yeah 5 you take it

I think I'm more along lines of 2.5m is maybe just not worth it even though it's a lot of money to us.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,906
Evo1883 said:
Be better for us if they weren't, but I agree
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I just think we’re better off going for someone with a year of growth in them than trying to find the finished article next season. We have three decent strikers, with O’Hare to come back and maybe take a spot too. And we have Binks and Latibeaudiere as well as Bidwell if we need it. We currently have no reserve for Hamer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,907
shmmeee said:
They can be loans though.
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The latter yes, but I thought the whole reason we declined McNally was in wanting more permanent players.
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,908
covcity4life said:
Yeah 5 you take it

I think I'm more along lines of 2.5m is maybe just not worth it even though it's a lot of money to us.
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I think the management may agree with you. I'm sure they have a number in mind they deem acceptable for what is a years service.

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shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,909
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The latter yes, but I thought the whole reason we declined McNally was in wanting more permanent players.
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Needs must though. If it’s a choice between Kitching or Humphries and a long term Hamer successor I’d take the latter.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,910
covcity4life said:
We might have prem money

Forget 20m obviously we sell for that

But if we don't get a good offer now(for me I've revised that down to 5m) then I don't think we should sell and rather have benefits of him playing in this promotion chasing team for one last year and then leaving on a free.
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At least you're more realistic with value!
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,911
If Hamer wants to move (in this window) because of ambition, i can understand that and have no problem with it.
Moving to another championship side though would be odd and frankly unacceptable, given how much ccfc have spent this window...i mean how much more ambitious does he want us to be...we must be one of the top spenders in the championship.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,912
shmmeee said:
Needs must though. If it’s a choice between Kitching or Humphries and a long term Hamer successor I’d take the latter.
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If that were the choice I’d agree. Hopefully it isn’t
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 5, 2023
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covcity4life said:
Yeah 5 you take it

I think I'm more along lines of 2.5m is maybe just not worth it even though it's a lot of money to us.
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Two and a half probably depends who to. If he does genuinely want to go back to NL you let him go with a fat sell on clause in case there's a time he's no longer homesick.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,914
shmmeee said:
If he is doing that we’d be smart to spend any remaining Vik money on his replacement now.
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Yeah I’m surprised not to see a youngster in who we can start developing as a replacement.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,915
He would only go to Leeds if money was his main motivator.
 
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  • Aug 5, 2023
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djr8369 said:
Yeah I’m surprised not to see a youngster in who we can start developing as a replacement.
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Why would such a player want to be backup for a season?
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,917
If we sell him to an English club we need to put a clause in saying he can’t play against us.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,918
Covcraig@bury said:
If we sell him to an English club we need to put a clause in saying he can’t play against us.
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Impossible
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,919
Ccfcisparks said:
Impossible
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Why ?
 

Balli001

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,920
Ccfcisparks said:
Impossible
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I think that can only be put in to loan contracts
 
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BerksSB

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,921
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two and a half probably depends who to. If he does genuinely want to go back to NL you let him go with a fat sell on clause in case there's a time he's no longer homesick.
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Top teams are also adding a buy back clause in addition to the sell on clause. That would protect us from the Dutch club selling back to an English club.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Why would such a player want to be backup for a season?
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Because they’d be young and still developing?
 

San Francisco

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,923
covcity4life said:
Hopefully he'll just run contract down and we get to enjoy him for one more successful year
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This is what I think too. If we get promoted then he'll probs sign a new contract and if we don't then he'll go to Holland. Think next summer we'll sign his replacement, someone who won't be too far off Gus ability and is younger so can improve further.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,924
Grendel said:
Why not?
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Because it’s a sideways move when you take the money out of it. They could probably pay 10k a week more? Think he’d rather stay here for a year then sign for a prem/European team. Think we’d want more from a team considered a rival too, probably more than Leeds would pay.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,925
Just watched a video of his pass to yok away at Luton last season stunning
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,926
San Francisco said:
If we get promoted then he'll probs sign a new contract
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Not if he wants to return to NL for personal reasons he won't
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,927
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not if he wants to return to NL for personal reasons he won't
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Nah he won't go national league. Too good for that
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,928
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two and a half probably depends who to. If he does genuinely want to go back to NL you let him go with a fat sell on clause in case there's a time he's no longer homesick.
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My impression is that him wanting to go back to Holland has been completely blown up on here, with the theory seemingly growing a life of its own as more and more posters give it credence by adding 2+2 in relation to his marriage break up and a newspaper article from a year ago saying he would like to return to Feyenoord before he retires.

Hopefully he plays a starring role on Sunday which gives him the encouragement to stay with us and sign a new contract. However, bearing in mind Everton want £1m for Tom Cannon to leave them on a seasons loan, the club need to work out a point at which a potential transfer fee for Hamer is lower than the value to the team of retaining his services for the coming season. If we only get low ball offers of say £3m then the club have a big call to make.
 
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Samo

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,929
Legia Sky Blue said:
My impression is that him wanting to go back to Holland has been completely blown up on here, with the theory seemingly growing a life of its own as more and more posters give it credence by adding 2+2 in relation to his marriage break up and a newspaper article from a year ago saying he would like to return to Feyenoord before he retires.

Hopefully he plays a starring role on Sunday which gives him the encouragement to stay with us and sign a new contract. However, bearing in mind Everton want £1m for Tom Cannon to leave them on a seasons loan, the club need to work out a point at which a potential transfer fee for Hamer is lower than the value to the team of retaining his services for the coming season. If we only get low ball offers of say £3m then the club have a big call to make.
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He could easily be the difference between promotion or not, that's a snip at 3m
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,930
I've just watched this video on him and I have to say it makes you realise what a fucking player he is ..
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,931
We wont entertain anything less than 10. Robins and Doug have made that clear to Gus.

Robins would rather lose him for nothing and have him knitting this team together for a proper go at promotion.

Also, from what im told he feels he can make a big sale next summer from elsewhere within the side, so its not crucial that its Gus that has to go. If that makes sense?
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,932
Saddlebrains said:
We wont entertain anything less than 10. Robins and Doug have made that clear to Gus.

Robins would rather lose him for nothing and have him knitting this team together for a proper go at promotion.

Also, from what im told he feels he can make a big sale next summer from elsewhere within the side, so its not crucial that its Gus that has to go. If that makes sense?
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Sheaf is one of those
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,933
Matt smith said:
Sheaf is one of those
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As is O'Hare as long as he comes back how he was. And theres no doubt he will sign a year extension
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,934
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why would such a player want to be backup for a season?
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Could be a buy and loan back/out a la Maddison/McCallum
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 5, 2023
  • #4,935
Okay £20million was a bit tongue in cheek but you don’t win promotion strengthening the opposition and that’s what we’d do selling to a championship club.
 
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