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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,446
Simms is barely even proven at championship level, it's not even comparable to the best player to have ever lived.
 
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CBS16

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,447
None of us know what he was offered, none of us know what other clubs are saying to him, and none of us know what's going on in his head. Grown men on here blaming the club, the player, the agent or whatever else when in reality we have absolutely no idea what's happening. The club know his worth to us and will have made him an offer accordingly, we'll wait and see but at 26 it's understandable if he'd like to play at a higher level. The club's well run and I'm sure they'll be a contingency plan in place if he leaves. Everyone calm down and let's get excited for Leicester + more incoming transfers! Pusb
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,448
Calista said:
None of us have got access to the information you'd need to decide that, and I don't see why our random guesses matter at all
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It gives an insight into what lengths people think the club should go to in order to retain one player. Rather than wages per week, think of it per year instead. How much is too much?
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,449
Brylowes said:
While that is factually correct, it isn’t by any means the only potential outcome.
His circumstances, hopes and ambitions could all significantly change in that time, like if he inspired us to a brilliant promotion for instance, would he be able to turn down a new contract ‘and with it the chance to lead this club into the Premier League, I’m sure in those circumstances the club would be happy to meet his ‘much higher’ wage demands.
And if the above happened and he then decided to leave for nothing, you would have to say it worked out well for both club and player.
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It's a possibility. However - If we ended up 10th he would leave for free and we wouldn't be as attractive a prospect for people coming in (and we wouldn't have any additional cash to buy). Not saying that's going to happen but it's all a gamble isn't it?
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,450
shmmeee said:
Im not sure that’s true, but should we be signing players with no higher ceiling with our intended model?
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It is true really. Ellis Simms would surely say to the club that if you're willing to offer £8m for me you need to back that up with a proper salary offer. He's not coming for 10K a week is he?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,451
sotvtoday said:
It is true really. Ellis Simms would surely say to the club that if you're willing to offer £8m for me you need to back that up with a proper salary offer. He's not coming for 10K a week is he?
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What’s he done to deserve £25k/week?

And at the moment he’s worth £3.5m not £8m.
 

Brylowes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,452
Deity said:
Easy to be brave when it’s not your money. Football is awash with clubs in trouble because they were “brave” “very ambitious” “ rolled the dice”….

I’d love Hamer to stay but I’ve really enjoyed Coventry starting to build a decent squad again this window. Vik’s sale has been a game changer. Mismanaging Hamers situation undermines all of that.
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Vic’s sale was indeed a game changer and yes it’s bankrolled an overhaul of the team, hopefully it also means that Hamer doesn’t need to be sold to balance the books.
Look, if we can get £15m + then fair enough ‘we should probably take it.
But if it’s less £10m and we had assurances he would give everything to the club, I honestly think it’s a worthwhile gamble.
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,453
Grendel said:
What we’ve offered him. You can’t start letting players demand extra terms. He’s had an offer and that’s it
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No - It's a matter of negotiation.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,454
shmmeee said:
What’s he done to deserve £25k/week?

And at the moment he’s worth £3.5m not £8m.
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No one has said he’s on that but again he’s a striker who is young and could be worth a lot more in two years. There’s little risk in the signing
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,455
shmmeee said:
What’s he done to deserve £25k/week?

And at the moment he’s worth £3.5m not £8m.
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From our point of view quite possibly. From his, there were a number of clubs after him and why wouldn't he want his salary to reflect that?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,456
sotvtoday said:
From our point of view quite possibly. From his, there were a number of clubs after him and why wouldn't he want his salary to reflect that?
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You could justify any salary like that. Personally I wouldn’t hand a player with less than half a season of a Championship football under his belt that kind of money, at least not if it was the most were willing to offer.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,457
shmmeee said:
You could justify any salary like that. Personally I wouldn’t hand a player with less than half a season of a Championship football under his belt that kind of money, at least not if it was the most were willing to offer.
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Strangely it’s how the industry works
 

CDK

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,458
Don't think king will be held to task on players wages .He's a successful businessman.Also he wouldn't be hustled down by sporting.
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,459
What I don't understand is why we were happy to pay Waghorn 30 grand a week but feel that Gus isn't worth the same?!
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,460
Greggs said:
What I don't understand is why we were happy to pay Waghorn 30 grand a week but feel that Gus isn't worth the same?!
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Gus is worth more imho, the rest on here can fuck off if they dont like it.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,461
letsallsingtogether said:
Gus is worth more imho, the rest on here can fuck off if they dont like it.
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Yeah and how much would it cost to replace Hamer with the same quality.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,462
shmmeee said:
You could justify any salary like that. Personally I wouldn’t hand a player with less than half a season of a Championship football under his belt that kind of money, at least not if it was the most were willing to offer.
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Also by that logic hamer will attract little premiership interest having no experience at that level
 

Bennettbarnet

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,463
Warwickhunt said:
i would think lot of players in the Premier League are not on 25K a week TBQH!
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Then you would think wrong, very wrong.

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TomRad85

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,464
Bloody hell, he really needs to make a decision doesn't he. Fan base has gone into meltdown after what should be seen as an exciting summer.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,465
TomRad85 said:
Bloody hell, he really needs to make a decision doesn't he. Fan base has gone into meltdown after what should be seen as an exciting summer.

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Need something to wet the bed about
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,466
Grendel said:
Also by that logic hamer will attract little premiership interest having no experience at that level
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It's more that you wouldn't expect Hamer to go to a Premier League club and be amongst the highest earners straight away.

He would be on the lower end of salary for a first team Premier League player to reflect his lack of experience in the league, still be a lot more than he would be on as a top earner here.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,467
Grendel said:
Also by that logic hamer will attract little premiership interest having no experience at that level
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Apparently the club have rejected bids from premier league clubs, so someone rates him.
 

Seymour_East

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,468
Sometimes, at a certain time, an individual player can be actually priceless to a club…
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,469
Seymour_East said:
Sometimes, at a certain time, an individual player can be actually priceless to a club…
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That was Tommy Hutchinson, but they still sold him.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,470
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Apparently the club have rejected bids from premier league clubs, so someone rates him.
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Yes we know Luton have
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,471
Seymour_East said:
Sometimes, at a certain time, an individual player can be actually priceless to a club…
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No they can’t every player has a price
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,472
Grendel said:
Yes we know Luton have
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Plus Fulham.
 

Bennettbarnet

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,473
Seymour_East said:
Sometimes, at a certain time, an individual player can be actually priceless to a club…
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Priceless? Everyone has a price no matter how important they are perceived to be.

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bawtryneal

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,474
Greggs said:
What I don't understand is why we were happy to pay Waghorn 30 grand a week but feel that Gus isn't worth the same?!
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Waghorn on £30k a week. Your having a laugh.
£30k a month and you will be close.
 
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Seymour_East

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,475
Grendel said:
No they can’t every player has a price
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Baked beans on toast again tonight?
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,476
Grendel said:
Also by that logic hamer will attract little premiership interest having no experience at that level
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It could be argued that the greater part of most transfer fees (not all) is based on a player’s future potential.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,477
Grendel said:
Also by that logic hamer will attract little premiership interest having no experience at that level
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Im not sure you’re using the word logic in its generally accepted sense.
 
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its a buzzard

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,478
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
That was Tommy Hutchinson, but they still sold him.
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Hutchison!

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its a buzzard

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,479
Otis said:
Cremation for me, pal. No worm, flesh-eating.

A jam jar will do just fine.
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I'll leave the pistol at home then, and bring my flame-thrower. In the unlikely event you catch me with a jammy shot, please respect my wish to be buried in the garden with my faithful hound. Not the current one, mind, he wouldn't appreciate that. His predecessor.

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Great_Expectations

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,480
It’s dragging way too much now. To the point it’s overshadowing what has been a positive few weeks transfer wise.

Thankfully not on Twitter / barely look at Facebook, but I can imagine this topic is taking over and negatively is creeping out.

If he’s going he needs to go. However I’ll think he’ll be here for the season.
 
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