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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,376
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Has to wait another season to do that and risks getting O'Hare'd in the mean time.
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Not if he coasts for the season.Look at the Blackburn guy Diaz
 

mmttww

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,377
SIR ERNIE said:
Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
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Been thinking this.

He had one season playing at that level and took a while to get there. MR and AV pushed him to that level. If he goes and we're able to throw £2-4m at a midfielder instead of £1-2m like we did with Hamer, we might find someone that can get to that level in less time. I don't think we'll find someone who's at that level from day one, though. Feel like you need £5-10m to get that.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,378
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Has to wait another season to do that and risks getting O'Hare'd in the mean time.
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Injury risk is Occupational hazards and not going to influence his decision making
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,379
Grendel said:
Injury risk is Occupational hazards and not going to influence his decision making
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I don't see why it wouldn't when injury cost one of his teammates a similar transfer.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,380
Kizz said:
One up from the brittania , but even if that’s the case I don’t claim to stay in a lavish hotel, why would I?
What’s the saying the rich don’t stay rich by spending money on shit?
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Well of course - thats why I once saw David and Victoria Beckham booking into an IBIS
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,381
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't see why it wouldn't when injury cost one of his teammates a similar transfer.
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The implication given by somebody on here is that he would be on the dole should he get injured during his last year of contract
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,382
Grendel said:
Well of course - thats why I once saw David and Victoria Beckham booking into an IBIS
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Eddie Jordan used to stay at the Formula 1 in Cheylesmore when he came to watch his beloved Sky Blues
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,383
fernandopartridge said:
Eddie Jordan used to stay at the Formula 1 in Cheylesmore when he came to watch his beloved Sky Blues
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Jordan paid a City steward £80 a few times to guard his car some souped up fancy sports model. Lot of money back then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,384
slowpoke said:
Jordan paid a City steward £80 a few times to guard his car some suped fancy sports model. Lot of money back then.
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Singer Chamois?
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,385
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,386
Kizz said:
Isn’t that what you do with every single fucking player?

complete spanner , don’t know why I unmuted you, one of the most braindead people on this site.
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,387
Heard there is absolutely no update to give

More as i get it
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,388
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If we could sign the best midfielder in the championship for £5 million pounds transfer fee you would be buzzing.
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Can anyone play fantasy football.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,389
Saddlebrains said:
Heard there is absolutely no update to give

More as i get it
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This is the kind of insight we come here for!!
 
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Robinshio

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,390
Saddlebrains said:
Heard there is absolutely no update to give

More as i get it
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i think you have heard the same as me
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,391
If Hamer was to leave today, wouldn't be enough time to get some in, like for like, so if Hamer doesn't play on Sunday, We're screwed.
 

Offhegoes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,392
We are sure to receive bids before the transfer window shuts, but I would guess that Hamer will be starting againat Leicester. We know King will negotitate hard, and the rumoured 3m bid was ridicoulous. I would probably take anything above 10m though.

I am sure Robins has a number of targets in mind should he go next month. With Palmer back, and Kelly, Sheaf, Eccles and Sakamoto we will have enough to put out a competitve team until the new player comes in.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,393
I’ve always been of the opinion if he doesn’t sign a contract we have to sell but if the bids coming in are way below his value what do you do? Keep him for the year or sell him for say £6million?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,394
SleepyGinger said:
I’ve always been of the opinion if he doesn’t sign a contract we have to sell but if the bids coming in are way below his value what do you do? Keep him for the year or sell him for say £6million?
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What is his value?
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,395
SlowerThanPlatt said:
What is his value?
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No idea but I’m sure the club has a figure that if it’s met he will be sold
 

Robinshio

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,396
how much is a player for 1 season worth, if they are one of the top players in the league

that must be around £3m + , so that means selling for £3m is like giving away for free
so you must be looking at £5m on top of that
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,397
Robinshio said:
how much is a player for 1 season worth, if they are one of the top players in the league

that must be around £3m + , so that means selling for £3m is like giving away for free
so you must be looking at £5m on top of that
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More than that. You’re talking the kind of loan fee and wages Tammy Abrahams cost Villa. He’s the best in the division by a mile and worth several league positions on his own. I’d say £5m just for a season. But he’s worth more to us than anyone would pay for his character and fit.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,398
Grendel said:
because your retaining an asset that depreciates to zero value in less than a year
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While that is factually correct, it isn’t by any means the only potential outcome.
His circumstances, hopes and ambitions could all significantly change in that time, like if he inspired us to a brilliant promotion for instance, would he be able to turn down a new contract ‘and with it the chance to lead this club into the Premier League, I’m sure in those circumstances the club would be happy to meet his ‘much higher’ wage demands.
And if the above happened and he then decided to leave for nothing, you would have to say it worked out well for both club and player.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,399
Deleted member 5849 said:
The thought that giving Hamer an enormous contract has no consequence beyond just that contract is myopic in extreme
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If Simms is really on £25k Gus is worth £30k. Anyone complains then tell them to have the same impact. No one else is the squad is even close except perhaps Fadz, but he’s waning.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,400
shmmeee said:
If Simms is really on £25k Gus is worth £30k. Anyone complains then tell them to have the same impact. No one else is the squad is even close except perhaps Fadz, but he’s waning.
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No one has a clue what Simms is on. Highly unlikely to be that much. It’s another figure plucked out the air by someone to suit a narrative
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,401
Brylowes said:
While that is factually correct, it isn’t by any means the only potential outcome.
His circumstances, hopes and ambitions could all significantly change in that time, like if he inspired us to a brilliant promotion for instance, would he be able to turn down a new contract ‘and with it the chance to lead this club into the Premier League, I’m sure in those circumstances the club would be happy to meet his ‘much higher’ wage demands.
And if the above happened and he then decided to leave for nothing, you would have to say it worked out well for both club and player.
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And if we didn’t win promotion and he walked away for nothing next summer it will have been financial incompetence on the clubs behalf. Look at Blackburn this summer …. Had they sold Diaz last summer for even £8-10m they would not be in the situation they are today.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,402
shmmeee said:
If Simms is really on £25k Gus is worth £30k. Anyone complains then tell them to have the same impact. No one else is the squad is even close except perhaps Fadz, but he’s waning.
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Grendel said:
No one has a clue what Simms is on. Highly unlikely to be that much. It’s another figure plucked out the air by someone to suit a narrative
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I thought the wage cap was set at £19.000 p/w, I’m sure I’d read that somewhere
 

Brylowes

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,403
Deity said:
And if we didn’t win promotion and he walked away for nothing next summer it will have been financial incompetence on the clubs behalf. Look at Blackburn this summer …. Had they sold Diaz last summer for even £8-10m they would not be in the situation they are today.
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Well that’s the gamble isn’t it, usually I’d be dead against letting a player of value sit on his contract and leave for nothing, but in this case I’m tempted to think it could be the sensible option.

Hamer is such a vital player to CCFC his importance really cannot be overstated, people say if he goes for £10m we can use that money to bring in 3 quality players ‘but only 11 can play at any one time and if we can’t find a replacement for Hamer of at least equal quality, we will be a poorer side for it.

With the players we’ve bought in so far and with a few more still to come, if Hamer were to commit to this season now I would honestly be very confident in the club achieving something really special this season.

Fortune favours the brave
 
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  • Jul 31, 2023
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shmmeee said:
If Simms is really on £25k Gus is worth £30k.
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If an egg comes from a duck then a lemon drizzle is on the cards
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 31, 2023
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Grendel said:
No one has a clue what Simms is on. Highly unlikely to be that much. It’s another figure plucked out the air by someone to suit a narrative
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I want to know what happened to Hamer wanting £20k, then £22k...? Next week, will he want £70k and that's ok?
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,406
mmttww said:
Been thinking this.

He had one season playing at that level and took a while to get there. MR and AV pushed him to that level. If he goes and we're able to throw £2-4m at a midfielder instead of £1-2m like we did with Hamer, we might find someone that can get to that level in less time. I don't think we'll find someone who's at that level from day one, though. Feel like you need £5-10m to get that.
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He has been excellent since he arrived, and has won player of the season two years on the bounce. He did kick on last season, but the bar was already very high.

This division has seen countless players bought for £1 million that have not got anywhere near Hamer's level, it just isn't that easy.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,407
Brylowes said:
Well that’s the gamble isn’t it, usually I’d be dead against letting a player of value sit on his contract and leave for nothing, but in this case I’m tempted to think it could be the sensible option.

Hamer is such a vital player to CCFC his importance really cannot be overstated, people say if he goes for £10m we can use that money to bring in 3 quality players ‘but only 11 can play at any one time and if we can’t find a replacement for Hamer of at least equal quality, we will be a poorer side for it.

With the players we’ve bought in so far and with a few more still to come, if Hamer were to commit to this season now I would honestly be very confident in the club achieving something really special this season.

Fortune favours the brave
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Easy to be brave when it’s not your money. Football is awash with clubs in trouble because they were “brave” “very ambitious” “ rolled the dice”….

I’d love Hamer to stay but I’ve really enjoyed Coventry starting to build a decent squad again this window. Vik’s sale has been a game changer. Mismanaging Hamers situation undermines all of that.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,408
Grendel said:
No one has a clue what Simms is on. Highly unlikely to be that much. It’s another figure plucked out the air by someone to suit a narrative
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i would think lot of players in the Premier League are not on 25K a week TBQH!
 
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  • Jul 31, 2023
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Grendel said:
No one has a clue what Simms is on. Highly unlikely to be that much. It’s another figure plucked out the air by someone to suit a narrative
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Agreed that probably no one on here knows how much he earns (obviously he and the club do). Then you go and ruin it by declaring that you know it's not as high as previous poster said.
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 31, 2023
  • #4,410
Warwickhunt said:
i would think lot of players in the Premier League are not on 25K a week TBQH!
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You would be correct, if this was 2014.
 
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