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Grendel

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,676
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I agree with you. Something isn’t adding up. We are paying big fees for players and somehow we can’t offer him a brilliant contract. He is keeping his options open till the end of the window.
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If he can attract some PL interest he would get £40k a week - we are not offering that and neither should we
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,677
As much as I don’t want Gus to leave, if he does then I’m not worried. You can now all see the calibre of player and the our ability to pay for really good talent.
 
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Samo

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,678
AFCCOVENTRY said:
As much as I don’t want Gus to leave, if he does then I’m not worried. You can now all see the calibre of player and the our ability to pay for really good talent.
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A note of caution: We won't sell a player for 20m every year.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,679
Agree but then we've not spent 40m back so should be some left in the pot. Add in all of other recent income plus potential swll on for Vik and we'll be nicely set up if we don't. Having said that, if Simms has a great season with his age and potential them no reason he couldn't be a £20m sale next year.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,680
Samo said:
A note of caution: We won't sell a player for 20m every year.
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If Gus leaves we will have identified a replacement.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,681
AFCCOVENTRY said:
If Gus leaves we will have identified a replacement.
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He may well choose to run his contract down and start talking to other clubs in January….but he loves the club and the area so I’m sure he’s just been trying to find a pen.
 
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Calista

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,682
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Ok let’s get some perspective.

Daly was a great player at Man Utd but was significantly slowing down by the time he came to us.

Yorath was an old style enforcer. Truth be told he was a one dimensional Souness-type; he lacked the Souness skill and finesse but could do the robust stuff. A great signing for us but he’d be sent off in every single game these days.

Carr was a lovely player but hardly won us many games. Mortimer was sold far too early to be considered a great for us. He should have been capped for England but didn’t make it.

Blair wouldn’t get into today’s starting side very often. I look forward to people speaking of Josh Eccles in the same way in 15 years time. Powell was an effective player and quite skilful but again his influence on games was not at the level of someone who could be considered a great.

McAllister and Hadji were sublime in terms of skill and influence but the former only turned up for one of his three seasons with us (his final one) and in our best year in the Prem his injury-enforced absence (and replacement by Boateng - who himself had as many poor games as outstanding ones- made us a better team.

I liked Stewart Robson at City but he was injured every fourth game and hardly scored win his time with us. We can’t compare Hamer to players like Daly and Robson winding down their careers.

Thompson loved his time at Cov (I know this for a fact) but was injury prone and unfit when he arrived. His season for us at the level we are now at was brilliant but he’d been ineffective at the level above.

Whether Hamer can be properly compared to players from the 1970s/80s is a moot point but few of those mentioned had the influence at both ends of the pitch as he has in almost every game he plays in the championship.

When he moves on, we will suddenly noticed how effective he is I suspect.
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Some fair comments. But the context is the claim that Hamer is the best City player in over 50 years (and in terms of midfield players, “by a long mile”). Surely an exaggeration.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,683
Still want hamer to knit everything together in the middle
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,684
Calista said:
Some fair comments. But the context is the claim that Hamer is the best City player in over 50 years (and in terms of midfield players, “by a long mile”). Surely an exaggeration.
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He’s the best we’ve had in the Championship but saying he’s better than the likes of Dublin, McAllister and Strachan is a bit over the top.
 
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San Francisco

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,685
I think he really wants to go to Feyenoord but they obviously can't afford to throw 16m our way so he'll just run his contract down and move over there to finally play for them again.

Seems like a humble guy who just wants to live out his dream.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,686
San Francisco said:
I think he really wants to go to Feyenoord but they obviously can't afford to throw 16m our way so he'll just run his contract down and move over there to finally play for them again.

Seems like a humble guy who just wants to live out his dream.
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Fair play if he does. It’s a valid option for a player to take. Wouldn’t get in the way of a player wanting to play for his boyhood club. And means we get a full season out of him to get promoted and make any fee irrelevant.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,687
hamertime said:
Hamer is so influential and important you have to pay him what he wants. He wants to stay you can tell he loves it here. If we loose him it could set us back years. I get the pay cap thing but it makes no sense to bite your nose to spite your face. I’d imagine all the other players want him to stay too.
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Thanks Gus… shouldn’t you be getting ready for training rather than coming on here
PS just sign the fecking contract man!!!
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,688
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think the rumours about not offering enough are not right
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Imagine my shock....

 
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MalcSB

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,689
Warwickhunt said:
Totally agree Rob! When we getting the season tickets?
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They will be emailed out with the shirts on 11th August. Plenty of time to print them out for the first home game.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,690
Got a Hamer update from my insider

The amount offered is what Gus was asking for. Its purely down to Gus now the reason he hasnt commited is due to the recent upheaval and changes he had with his child moving abroad etc.

He was best mates with Dabo and with Fanky and his kid now moving away hes unsure about committing himself to years at Cov, especially with his little one now hundreds of miles away hes just torn.

Loves it here, loves the club, fans, the moneys sound, just doesnt know what he wants

Cant really blame him can we. I personally can see him signing a year extension, doesnt tie him down massively and still leaves the option of going next year
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,691
Saddlebrains said:
Got a Hamer update from my insider

The amount offered is what Gus was asking for. Its purely down to Gus now the reason he hasnt commited is due to the recent upheaval and changes he had with his child moving abroad etc.

He was best mates with Dabo and with Fanky and his kid now moving away hes unsure about committing himself to years at Cov, especially with his little one now hundreds of miles away hes just torn.

Loves it here, loves the club, fans, the moneys sound, just doesnt know what he wants

Cant really blame him can we. I personally can see him signing a year extension, doesnt tie him down massively and still leaves the option of going next year
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Fucking hell maybe we should have kept Dabo on as Hamers mascot then.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,692
Saddlebrains said:
Got a Hamer update from my insider

The amount offered is what Gus was asking for. Its purely down to Gus now the reason he hasnt commited is due to the recent upheaval and changes he had with his child moving abroad etc.

He was best mates with Dabo and with Fanky and his kid now moving away hes unsure about committing himself to years at Cov, especially with his little one now hundreds of miles away hes just torn.

Loves it here, loves the club, fans, the moneys sound, just doesnt know what he wants

Cant really blame him can we. I personally can see him signing a year extension, doesnt tie him down massively and still leaves the option of going next year
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Very odd reasoning. Guessing his preference would be to move back to Holland then if he was to move?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,693
Ccfcisparks said:
Very odd reasoning. Guessing his preference would be to move back to Holland then if he was to move?
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That would be my assumption. Who wouldnt want too if their child was over there, no brainer in a way i suppose
 
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Macca1987

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,694
But if no-one from the Netherlands is prepared to meet our valuation for Gus, then he most likely just has to sit it out and run his contract down
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,695
TomRad85 said:
Fucking hell maybe we should have kept Dabo on as Hamers mascot then.
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Worth it
He’s not likely to play
I wonder if there’s a role
Trainee physio
Hamers playmate
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,696
Sky Blue Pete said:
Worth it
He’s not likely to play
I wonder if there’s a role
Trainee physio
Hamers playmate
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Personal trainer for the scrawny youth teamers. Blokes a fucking unit.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,697
Macca1987 said:
But if no-one from the Netherlands is prepared to meet our valuation for Gus, then he most likely just has to sit it out and run his contract down
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Yep, that’s the reality of it.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,698
Id like to reiterate that this is the same person who gets things like Latibeaudiere, Kasey Palmer and Callum Doyle right

But also said Billy Gilmour and claimed Boddy and Co couldnt stand Doug so

Believe it if ya like, dont if you dont
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,699
Saddlebrains said:
That would be my assumption. Who wouldnt want too if their child was over there, no brainer in a way i suppose
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Didn't realise his son was over there.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,700
Saddlebrains said:
Got a Hamer update from my insider

The amount offered is what Gus was asking for. Its purely down to Gus now the reason he hasnt commited is due to the recent upheaval and changes he had with his child moving abroad etc.

He was best mates with Dabo and with Fanky and his kid now moving away hes unsure about committing himself to years at Cov, especially with his little one now hundreds of miles away hes just torn.

Loves it here, loves the club, fans, the moneys sound, just doesnt know what he wants

Cant really blame him can we. I personally can see him signing a year extension, doesnt tie him down massively and still leaves the option of going next year
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One year extension with a cheap release clause (say £5 million) which can only be triggered if Feyenoord bid
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,701
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
One year extension with a cheap release clause (say £5 million) which can only be triggered if Feyenoord bid
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Would be fair enough tbh. Its nit like hes wanting to go to anybody, it seems he wants to go be with his lad
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,702
Makes me love him that little bit more
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,703
Feel bad talking about the mans personal circumstances on here but why has the child moved abroad?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,704
So if he doesn't sign I guess he will still be here next season by the sounds of it
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,705
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Feel bad talking about the mans personal circumstances on here but why has the child moved abroad?
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Him and his wife split up and she moved back to Holland as she couldn't handle the mean streets of Kenilworth.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,706
TomRad85 said:
Him and his wife split up and she moved back to Holland as she couldn't handle the mean streets of Kenilworth.
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If that’s the case, it makes his playing performance even more remarkabl.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,707
Saddlebrains said:
Got a Hamer update from my insider

The amount offered is what Gus was asking for. Its purely down to Gus now the reason he hasnt commited is due to the recent upheaval and changes he had with his child moving abroad etc.

He was best mates with Dabo and with Fanky and his kid now moving away hes unsure about committing himself to years at Cov, especially with his little one now hundreds of miles away hes just torn.

Loves it here, loves the club, fans, the moneys sound, just doesnt know what he wants

Cant really blame him can we. I personally can see him signing a year extension, doesnt tie him down massively and still leaves the option of going next year
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Lol that reminds me of when Robbie Savage said he had to leave Birmingham to be nearer to his elderly parents - and ended up moving further - but a better club (co-incidence of course)

Or John "I am staying at Coventry even if Man U come in for me" Hartson - but...but..."You can't turn down Celtic they are as big as it gets"
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,708
Not really sure I buy the reasoning - the implication of it is that he doesn't sign he's off back to Holland. That isn't true though, is it?
 

CDK

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,709
Having estranged children especially when there young is a killer emotionally I speak from experience.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #3,710
It seems like he's just biding his time, hoping a top Dutch team make an approach.
 
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