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  • Start date Jun 25, 2022
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Jamesimus

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #106
I also have the feeling that he's the one of the holy trinity that I would be happiest to leave.

Saying that, I wouldn't be happy about it because I think he's great and will be difficult to replace.

Obviously completely different kind of player to Lee Carsley, and I'd say he's more similar to Fleck, but maybe a Sheffield United Fleck (when he remembered he was getting paid to be an athlete, not deep fat fry every meal).

Not scared of trying stuff, which I like.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #107
Not happy to be selling any of our “big” three but from a football business point of view I’d be wanting to keep Gyo & O’Hare, good all round centre-forwards are a rare breed and Vik ticks the box there if he adds similar amount of goals this season his value will soar and O’Hare is imo critical to our style of play and if he starts chipping in the goals he should his value will rocket too. As for Hamer really don’t want him to go but again imo of the three he is the easiest to replace there’s some quality midfielders still out there out of contract just interested how much of any fee sisu allow for any replacement.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #108
If we lose Hamer, he'll be telling Fulham to sign Vik and Sheaf, both superb talents and both young........... Watch this space
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #109
WestEndAgro said:
If we lose Hamer, he'll be telling Fulham to sign Vik and Sheaf, both superb talents and both young........... Watch this space
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I’m sure they’re well aware of their talent already. I think Sheaf will progress even more this season and go for big money next summer.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #110
WestEndAgro said:
If we lose Hamer, he'll be telling Fulham to sign Vik and Sheaf, both superb talents and both young........... Watch this space
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Incorrect... a clause in the new contract he signed meant he could only tell his new employer about the following superb talents.

- Kane
- Walker
- Waghorn

Poor O'Hare has to big up Hilssner in his new contract... "See past the crutches!"
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #111
Sick Boy said:
I’m sure they’re well aware of their talent already. I think Sheaf will progress even more this season and go for big money next summer.
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Agree, they obviously are aware, but first question he'll get if he signs is who's worth taking.

Regarding your Sheaf comment, big season coming up, the boy is a absolute Gem.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #112
WestEndAgro said:
Agree, they obviously are aware, but first question he'll get if he signs is who's worth taking.

Regarding your Sheaf comment, big season coming up, the boy is a absolute Gem.
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Im not sure it works like that yheee days.
They will know all about our best players. They may try to find out about his character but unlikely to ask “ is he any good ? “
 
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Jamieb87ccfc

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #113
ccfctommy said:
I can't be arsed to read this thread. All I know is he is the best footballer we have had post Prem-relegation.

When I said this some months ago, one poster said Craig Hignett was better and one mentioned John Eustace!
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He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #114
Don’t get me wrong it will be gutting whenever we lose one of ‘the big 3’ but we have to trust in the process. In Robins tenure we have been disappointed in losing Thomas, McNulty, Bayliss, Walsh, McCallum and we have kept progressing and signing improvements.

I am hoping that the reason we have had a quiet window so far, by Robins quick out of the blocks standards, is because we have been lining up replacements. Transfers often happen like dominos at this level, where we will only allow a team to speak to a player once we have an agreed replacement lined up.

I will be sad to see Hamer, COH or Gyokeres go but I trust in Robins - just like I did when he brought them in and I’d never heard of them!
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #115
I would say of the 3 Hamer is the closest to being the finished article and I think it makes more sense to let him go as his value will not really increase with us unless we go up or make the play offs
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #116
Jamieb87ccfc said:
He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister (could only play the way he was facing. Slowed the play down to walking football paces.)
Lilian Nalis (who?)
Dennis Wise (agree he was technically very good, the closest one to challenging Hamer)
Don Hutchinson (good technically and could produce magic but defensively poor and slow)
Vincent Engonga (WHO?)
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem) [Morrocan Michael Doyle, nothing on Hamer technically]
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Based on their comparative performances in the championship, see above in brackets.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #117
Sick Boy said:
I’m sure they’re well aware of their talent already. I think Sheaf will progress even more this season and go for big money next summer.
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He tied their midfield in knots for 15-20 minutes of the first half at Craven cottage. They'll know all about him.
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #118
higgs said:
He sure is he set the tempo. Cracking little player if his finishing improves we would go to another level.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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Edited for you….
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #119
robbiekeane said:
That’s never going to happen. As we progress as a club our wage bill gets bigger and bigger (over and above revenue increases), so to expect us to sell a player and reinvest all of the fee in an equal fee is unrealistic.

Our model is such that we have to sell a player every year or two, to fund the rest of the squad. I’d expect a significant amount of it to be available for the overall playing budget, however robins wants to spend that
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Read it again. I said the fee we got him for (around a million) not the fee we got for him.
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #120
Jamieb87ccfc said:
He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)
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Lilian Nalis? And Engonga was terrible!
 
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baldy

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #121
Jamieb87ccfc said:
He’s a great player and not the finished article but we’ve had some great midfielders albeit at the end of their career since we’ve been out of the premier league:
Gary McAllister
Lilian Nalis
Dennis Wise
Don Hutchinson
Vincent Engonga
Youseff Safri (I know it wasn’t the end of his career as he went to the Prem)
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Surely this is a joke post - When did Nalis play for us?Plus Engonga was absolutely shite
 
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stupot07

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #122
baldy said:
Surely this is a joke post - When did Nalis play for us?Plus Engonga was absolutely shite
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2005 on loan.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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RegiswasGod

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #123
Scored twice in 6 loan appearances. Why do I have no recollection of this??
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #124
stupot07 said:
2005 on loan.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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6 appearances 2 goals, not bad.
 
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skybluereeve

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #125
Talk sport saying Hamer in London for talks. @betterdays you any truth in this?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #126
skybluereeve said:
Talk sport saying Hamer in London for talks. @betterdays you any truth in this?
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Better ask Jodi Jones
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #127
shepardo01 said:
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Gus was out in Leamington last night as my dad saw him in a restaurant
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #128
Matt smith said:
Gus was out in Leamington last night as my dad saw him in a restaurant
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Spending his signing on fee!
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #129
shepardo01 said:
Spending his signing on fee!
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Just doesn’t really comply with how he was in London for talks when he was in a restaurant in Leamington last night

i obviously have no idea though
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #130
Matt smith said:
Just doesn’t really comply with how he was in London for talks when he was in a restaurant in Leamington last night

i obviously have no idea though
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Why? It’s not that far away.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #131
It’s possible to be in London and Leamington on the same day. Some people seem to be in denial about that. Having said it though, I really wouldn’t listen to TalkSPORT.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #132
shepardo01 said:
Spending his signing on fee!
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Tommo1993 said:
It’s possible to be in London and Leamington on the same day. Some people seem to be in denial about that. Having said it though, I really wouldn’t listen to TalkSPORT.
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Im not saying it’s not mate, was more the time the tweet was published but of course he could have been
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #133
Hope he goes sooner rather than later, same if O’Hare is going to go. Let us get on with rebuilding.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #134
As much as the unnecessary panicking bugs me, selling 1 of the big 3 is expected. If we sold 2 then I’d be quite worried.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #135
Mate of mine had his photo with him in Samoan Joes yesterday… got about a bit then
 
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harvey098

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #136
Grendel said:
Better then Maddison?

He’s not better then many players we’ve had - David Thompson as an example
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You didn’t rate Maddison when he was here

Anyway, we don’t need to worry about losing Hamer to the premier league because someone that knows what they’re talking about said this earlier this year:


The problem with hamer is expectation - the notion he’s a premier league player in the making is rubbish …People just need to stop the nonsense hype as he’s never on a premier clubs radar
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #137
Tommo1993 said:
As much as the unnecessary panicking bugs me, selling 1 of the big 3 is expected. If we sold 2 then I’d be quite worried.
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Its got to be the model to sell at their peak and reinvest. That means O’Hare and Hamer off this summer really. As long as we reinvest enough to build the squad quality/potential I won’t be worried.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #138
harvey098 said:
You didn’t rate Maddison when he was here

Anyway, we don’t need to worry about losing Hamer to the premier league because someone that knows what they’re talking about said this earlier this year:


The problem with hamer is expectation - the notion he’s a premier league player in the making is rubbish …People just need to stop the nonsense hype as he’s never on a premier clubs radar
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Well is he? And again Harvey the Biamou files are there to observe
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #139
shmmeee said:
Its got to be the model to sell at their peak and reinvest. That means O’Hare and Hamer off this summer really. As long as we reinvest enough to build the squad quality/potential I won’t be worried.
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That’s the part that bothers me some.
 
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lordy_87

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #140
Grendel said:
Well is he? And again Harvey the Biamou files are there to observe
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He's most definitely on the radar of at least a couple of premiership clubs. Doesn't mean he'll join one, doesn't mean he won't.
 
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