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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #386
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Cov fans hate strikers who don’t run around a lot.
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I thought he was a really good player and his work rate was phenomenal.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #387
SeaSeeEffCee said:
See Walker getting the exact same criticism 12 years later as an example that opinion hasn’t shifted.
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Walker's problem isn't effort
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #388
Flynn Downes of Swansea is going to West Ham for £12m. It does pose the question, do we slightly overrate the “big three” as nobody seems to be putting forward that sort of money to us (yet?)
 
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edgy

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #389
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Flynn Downes of Swansea is going to West Ham for £12m. It does pose the question, do we slightly overrate the “big three” as nobody seems to be putting forward that sort of money to us (yet?)
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How do we know they haven't?

Wasn't there some thought that Middlesborough were quoted £15m for Vic?
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #390
edgy said:
How do we know they haven't?

Wasn't there some thought that Middlesborough were quoted £15m for Vic?
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Was thinking more Hamer and O’Hare who play in midfield too
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #391
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Flynn Downes of Swansea is going to West Ham for £12m. It does pose the question, do we slightly overrate the “big three” as nobody seems to be putting forward that sort of money to us (yet?)
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I don't as that's what their value is to us, higher than what the other teams think.
In my eyes they are the big three as should be sold as that, any one of them 10m plus regardless...PUSB
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #392
edgy said:
How do we know they haven't?

Wasn't there some thought that Middlesborough were quoted £15m for Vic?
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Because if they had they would almost certainly be gone by now.
 

edgy

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #393
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Because if they had they would almost certainly be gone by now.
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No proof of that though. All reports point to us knocking back bids for all three. What the bids are, we don't know. However after it was reported Middlesborough had bid for Vic, Wilder said something along the lines of being quoted £15m for a championship striker. IIIRC.

I think it's quite clear we are pushing for the high fees.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #394
edgy said:
No proof of that though. All reports point to us knocking back bids for all three. What the bids are, we don't know. However after it was reported Middlesborough had bid for Vic, Wilder said something along the lines of being quoted £15m for a championship striker. IIIRC.

I think it's quite clear we are pushing for the high fees.
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He quite clearly wasn't referring to him - he was also quoted to have said £20-25m I believe. Middlesbrough have been linked with a plethora of strikers though so fans automatically assuming it's him is ridiculous, especially as there's not a chance we would've quoted anywhere near that figure.

Bestikas were linked and it was reported that the club quoted them around £8-£10m which is far more likely and realistic if true.
 
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edgy

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #395
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He quite clearly wasn't referring to him - he was also quoted to have said £20-25m I believe. Middlesbrough have been linked with a plethora of strikers though so fans automatically assuming it's him is ridiculous, especially as there's not a chance we would've quoted anywhere near that figure.

Bestikas were linked and it was reported that the club quoted them around £8-£10m which is far more likely and realistic if true.
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Regardless of guess work figures, the point still stands. Platt questioned why we aren't asking for figures around £12m. In my opinion we will be around that mark for Vic at least.
 

shepardo01

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #396
edgy said:
Regardless of guess work figures, the point still stands. Platt questioned why we aren't asking for figures around £12m. In my opinion we will be around that mark for Vic at least.
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I think we probably are asking for figures like that....but the closer the season gets, and the closer the deadline gets.... which ridiculously is 7 games into the season, the worry is that we'd take less!! (With less time to look to replace- if that is even the plan)
The above could apply to any of the three.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #397
edgy said:
Regardless of guess work figures, the point still stands. Platt questioned why we aren't asking for figures around £12m. In my opinion we will be around that mark for Vic at least.
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No, he was questioning whether the fanbase are guilty of massively over-inflating valuations for our players when clubs seemingly aren't submitting similar sized bids to the one West Ham just had accepted for Downes.

Which really answers itself.
 

edgy

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #398
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
No, he was questioning whether the fanbase are guilty of massively over-inflating valuations for our players when clubs seemingly aren't submitting similar sized bids to the one West Ham just had accepted for Downes.

Which really answers itself.
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Ok, whatever. Doesn't make much difference to my point when you are using the same opinion of what we are being offered as your counter-arguement.

You maybe right but equaly you maybe wrong.

Anyway, we've seen a wild variation in our fanbase's valuations of the "big 3". £5m all the way upto £20m+. However, I don't think it's beyond reasonable belief to think we are asking around £12m-£15m for Vic.

That make sense in my head anyway.
 

Hutch11

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #399
The naive side of me is hoping that with all the increased revenue from ST and kit sales we can afford to maybe hold on to them all.
Have a real go this season

I know , naive
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #400
edgy said:
Ok, whatever. Doesn't make much difference to my point when you are using the same opinion of what we are being offered as your counter-arguement.

You maybe right but equaly you maybe wrong.

Anyway, we've seen a wild variation in our fanbase's valuations of the "big 3". £5m all the way upto £20m+. However, I don't think it's beyond reasonable belief to think we are asking around £12m-£15m for Vic.

That make sense in my head anyway.
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Not really. I've simply said the majority of our fanbase are way off with regards to their valuations. Which is more than likely true.

Fans are quite clearly guilty of looking at previous inflated transfer fees paid in the past for Championship strikers and automatically believing Gyokeres will go for similar amounts which I just can't agree with.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #401
Hutch11 said:
The naive side of me is hoping that with all the increased revenue from ST and kit sales we can afford to maybe hold on to them all.
Have a real go this season

I know , naive
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ST sales would've generated only around £1m in turnover give or take.

Even just to match that with kit sales, every season ticket holder would have to purchase the full kit - shirt, shorts and socks.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #402
Hutch11 said:
The naive side of me is hoping that with all the increased revenue from ST and kit sales we can afford to maybe hold on to them all.
Have a real go this season

I know , naive
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Sadly there are all kinds of “unforeseen costs” that have yet to be accounted for.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #403
shepardo01 said:
I think we probably are asking for figures like that....but the closer the season gets, and the closer the deadline gets.... which ridiculously is 7 games into the season, the worry is that we'd take less!! (With less time to look to replace- if that is even the plan)
The above could apply to any of the three.
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Based on what recent example?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #404
SBT said:
Sadly there are all kinds of “unforeseen costs” that have yet to be accounted for.
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Isnt that the same for every Club though.
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #405
shepardo01 said:
I think we probably are asking for figures like that....but the closer the season gets, and the closer the deadline gets.... which ridiculously is 7 games into the season, the worry is that we'd take less!! (With less time to look to replace- if that is even the plan)
The above could apply to any of the three.
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transfer window should close when season starts.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #406
Greggs said:
transfer window should close when season starts.
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100% agree.
Ridiculous that it is going 7 (Championship) games deep into the season! Not looked how many Prem games, but will be less.
 

blunted

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #407
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Flynn Downes of Swansea is going to West Ham for £12m. It does pose the question, do we slightly overrate the “big three” as nobody seems to be putting forward that sort of money to us (yet?)
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How does Downes compare with Hamer and O'Hare? How old is Downes and can he score goals? Maybe give us a clue what our players are worth.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #408
blunted said:
How does Downes compare with Hamer and O'Hare? How old is Downes and can he score goals? Maybe give us a clue what our players are worth.
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23 years old and nope, 1 goal with 2 assists
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #409
Even Transfermarkt values him at only £1.80m, with Hamer and O’hare at £2.70m and £3.60m
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #410
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
ST sales would've generated only around £1m in turnover give or take.
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Less than £90 per ST? If ST average is only about £200 each that's not far short of £2.5 mill.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #411
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Less than £90 per ST? If ST average is only about £200 each that's not far short of £2.5 mill.
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£1m extra in turnover from the previous year.
 
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Gleneagles65

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #412
Hutch11 said:
The naive side of me is hoping that with all the increased revenue from ST and kit sales we can afford to maybe hold on to them all.
Have a real go this season

How much would any one of the golden three be worth in the January transfer window if they kick on again? Easier said than done to keep them all but next season could be very special.

I know , naive
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #413
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He quite clearly wasn't referring to him - he was also quoted to have said £20-25m I believe. Middlesbrough have been linked with a plethora of strikers though so fans automatically assuming it's him is ridiculous, especially as there's not a chance we would've quoted anywhere near that figure.

Bestikas were linked and it was reported that the club quoted them around £8-£10m which is far more likely and realistic if true.
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Seeming as Beskitas ended up getting Wout Weghorst I doubt they have any interest now


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slowpoke

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #414
shepardo01 said:
100% agree.
Ridiculous that it is going 7 (Championship) games deep into the season! Not looked how many Prem games, but will be less.
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If we can get to the start of the season without any of our “big” three leaving it will look like signings, add in Palmer, the two 19 year olds and three or four loans .
Down to bit of luck re. Injuries obviously that’s the same for all but I think we will be okay.
 
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JonesBob

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #415
Come on, we are City fans. I think the big three are priceless, because they are to us. 20-25 million? they are worth treble that (to me). I am 60 now and still think City will win every game. I still live in denial of Leicester winning the premier. In my world CCFC are god like and by far the best team in the world. I like my world.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #416
Skybluedownunder said:
Seeming as Beskitas ended up getting Wout Weghorst I doubt they have any interest now


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No but it suggests they were certainly making enquiries in the Championship for a striker. They were also looking at Lucas Joao according to the press.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #417
JonesBob said:
Come on, we are City fans. I think the big three are priceless, because they are to us. 20-25 million? they are worth treble that (to me). I am 60 now and still think City will win every game. I still live in denial of Leicester winning the premier. In my world CCFC are god like and by far the best team in the world. I like my world.
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Is 27 the age on your profile for any ladies lurking?
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #418
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Less than £90 per ST? If ST average is only about £200 each that's not far short of £2.5 mill.
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If 12 k season tickets then your figures seem about right. 20% concession? 10% kids? Everyone else …£250 plus? Nobody knows other than to say a million may be on the low side.
 

pipkin73

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  • Jul 8, 2022
  • #419
JonesBob said:
Come on, we are City fans. I think the big three are priceless, because they are to us. 20-25 million? they are worth treble that (to me). I am 60 now and still think City will win every game. I still live in denial of Leicester winning the premier. In my world CCFC are god like and by far the best team in the world. I like my world.
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Can i live in your world please
 

Briles

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  • Jul 10, 2022
  • #420
Fulham back in?

Fulham keen on £10million-rated Coventry City midfielder Gustavo Hamer

FULHAM boss Marco Silva is keen on Coventry midfielder Gustavo Hamer. Brazil-born Hamer has represented the Netherlands at various youth levels and has impressed in the Championship. Hamer, 25, wou…
www.thesun.co.uk
 
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