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Johhny Blue

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #316
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I only got the HAM off so now I'm going to go to every game dressed as the Queen.
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I did better than you. I got rid of HAM and the E. I’m going to games dressed as a pirate.
 
Last edited: Jun 28, 2022
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RegiswasGod

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #317
stupot07 said:
I'm pretty sure it was Blackburn...but I may be wrong.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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Definitely Bristol City. Gary Johnson was manager of them at the time
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #318
This is how easy it will be to replace Hamer!!!??? (Red is league average - Blue, Hamer)
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #319
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Though looking at some of the dross we went for around that time we seemed to give in to ridiculous demands and send careers down the drain anyway
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David Bell.... 4 year contract!......
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #320
RegiswasGod said:
Definitely Bristol City. Gary Johnson was manager of them at the time
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Ha yes found this quote from Johnson:

"Mifsud, his representative and lawyer took negotiations to a level that I have never been before in the way they were conducting business.

"In my opinion it wasn't very professional and certainly not respectful of this football club."
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Gint11

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #321
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yeah but WHO?! We need names now
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SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yeah but WHO?! We need names now
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one source of data but he doesn’t feature at all here. If you also go to breaking the lines.com and look at central midfield, he does pop up there but overall the ranking midfielder is Ryan Yates.

There’s more consistent CMs out there then Hamer at this moment in time and that’s my point.
 

Gint11

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #322
Deity said:
He might be come Sept you plum
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yeah for a promoted team, not an established team higher up you orange
 

Esoterica

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #323
Gint11 said:
one source of data but he doesn’t feature at all here. If you also go to breaking the lines.com and look at central midfield, he does pop up there but overall the ranking midfielder is Ryan Yates.

There’s more consistent CMs out there then Hamer at this moment in time and that’s my point.View attachment 25103View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106
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He doesn't feature there at all because the data is taken from 2019, before he signed for us and when Leeds were still in the Championship...
 
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Gint11

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #324
Esoterica said:
He doesn't feature there at all because the data is taken from 2019, before he signed for us and when Leeds were still in the Championship...
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I’ve posted the wrong pics
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #325
Romaine Sawyers could be a shout if a replacement is required, very good box to box midfielder with an eye for a pass, think he’s possibly surplus at the baggies.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #326
Skyblue_CP said:
Romaine Sawyers could be a shout if a replacement is required, very good box to box midfielder with an eye for a pass, think he’s possibly surplus at the baggies.
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Thought he looked great when he was at Walsall. I expect his wages would be too steep for us?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #327
Gint11 said:
I’ve posted the wrong pics
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Careful - I got a suspended sentence for that
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #328
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Careful - I got a suspended sentence for that
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In the former Notts County owner territory?
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #329
Terry_dactyl said:
Thought he looked great when he was at Walsall. I expect his wages would be too steep for us?
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Possibly but I’d imagine his wage demands wouldn’t be too out of reach if we had made the Hamer sale.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #330
If Robins is allowed funds, Max Bird or Jason Knight from Derby, could be worth a look. Probably both still be to much for our budget though
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #331
Gint11 said:
one source of data but he doesn’t feature at all here. If you also go to breaking the lines.com and look at central midfield, he does pop up there but overall the ranking midfielder is Ryan Yates.

There’s more consistent CMs out there then Hamer at this moment in time and that’s my point.View attachment 25103View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106View attachment 25103View attachment 25104View attachment 25105View attachment 25106
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But that has Kalvin Phillips a Leeds player in there are you sure thats from this season and Ben watson plays for Wigan now
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #332
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
But that has Kalvin Phillips a Leeds player in there are you sure thats from this season and Ben watson plays for Wigan now
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Think this was the one he meant to post

Finding the Best Championship Centre Midfielder Purely From Data - Breaking The Lines

In today’s write-up, we will be finding the best centre midfielder in the EFL Championship from the 2021/22 season purely by the use of data. Disclaimer: I am not suggesting the players mentioned are better than the rest of the central midfielders in the league; this is purely based on research...
breakingthelines.com
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #333
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Think this was the one he meant to post

Finding the Best Championship Centre Midfielder Purely From Data - Breaking The Lines

In today’s write-up, we will be finding the best centre midfielder in the EFL Championship from the 2021/22 season purely by the use of data. Disclaimer: I am not suggesting the players mentioned are better than the rest of the central midfielders in the league; this is purely based on research...
breakingthelines.com
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That makes sense, seen this before and Sheaf appears on numerous times on this list

proving his doubters wrong as he has done all season, hopefully the dickheads around me stop moaning when he does anything at all
 
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Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #334
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Think this was the one he meant to post

Finding the Best Championship Centre Midfielder Purely From Data - Breaking The Lines

In today’s write-up, we will be finding the best centre midfielder in the EFL Championship from the 2021/22 season purely by the use of data. Disclaimer: I am not suggesting the players mentioned are better than the rest of the central midfielders in the league; this is purely based on research...
breakingthelines.com
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Correct. Thanks!
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #335
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Think this was the one he meant to post

Finding the Best Championship Centre Midfielder Purely From Data - Breaking The Lines

In today’s write-up, we will be finding the best centre midfielder in the EFL Championship from the 2021/22 season purely by the use of data. Disclaimer: I am not suggesting the players mentioned are better than the rest of the central midfielders in the league; this is purely based on research...
breakingthelines.com
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Makes all the people saying Jamie Allen runs around like a headless chicken and does nothing look pretty foolish.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #336
hamil99 said:
Makes all the people saying Jamie Allen runs around like a headless chicken and does nothing look pretty foolish.
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Yeah isn’t this right @Grendel
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #337
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yeah isn’t this right @Grendel
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Better than Hamer. Hope we get £8 million for him
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #338
hamil99 said:
Makes all the people saying Jamie Allen runs around like a headless chicken and does nothing look pretty foolish.
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Can prove anything with stats
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #339
Brentford to sign Keane Potter for £16m plus significant add on’s and some fans still think Hamer’s value is circa £5m

I’m not suggesting they are similar players or even that Hamer is as good but it shows that premier clubs will pay more money than some of our fans expect. The Spence fee will also prove this.
 
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skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #340
Deity said:
Brentford to sign Keane Potter for £16m plus significant add on’s and some fans still think Hamer’s value is circa £5m

I’m not suggesting they are similar players or even that Hamer is as good but it shows that premier clubs will pay more money than some of our fans expect. The Spence fee will also prove this.
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Both of those players are 21, Hamer is 25, no way is he going for close to what they will.
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #341
skyblueelephant76 said:
Both of those players are 21, Hamer is 25, no way is he going for close to what they will.
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His age at 25 won’t be the reason
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #342
Deity said:
His age at 25 won’t be the reason
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At 21 they are paying a premium for potential, there's less potential when they are 25
 
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robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #343
this is our 3rd year in this league, when we got promoted people were delighted to get more money coming in c £7.5m a year, we have been getting that ever since, plus record numbers of s/t and attendances, surely we can put some decent dosh together by now?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #344
robbiethemole said:
this is our 3rd year in this league, when we got promoted people were delighted to get more money coming in c £7.5m a year, we have been getting that ever since, plus record numbers of s/t and attendances, surely we can put some decent dosh together by now?
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er no as the wage bill escalates and therefore the cost of staying competitive gets worse
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #345
robbiethemole said:
this is our 3rd year in this league, when we got promoted people were delighted to get more money coming in c £7.5m a year, we have been getting that ever since, plus record numbers of s/t and attendances, surely we can put some decent dosh together by now?
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20k average attendance is only about £4.5m in ticket revenue over a season. Wages alone are high teens, I’d imagine we’re not close to breaking even.

Question really is are we getting bang for our Buck? We’ll see after this window I guess. We’ve moved on a fair amount of dead wood, still a bit to go IMO, if we can replace quantity with quality we’ll be OK, otherwise we need to look at funding.
 

Frostie

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #346
hamil99 said:
Makes all the people saying Jamie Allen runs around like a headless chicken and does nothing look pretty foolish.
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I've no idea where he's pulled that Key Passes stat from, or how it's calculated.
Jamie Allen averages 0.8 key passes per game (Whoscored) which is just scraping joint 100th in the league. He's far from a creative force.

Appreciate the effort that has gone in to that but quite a bit of it looks seriously flawed.
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #347
Frostie said:
I've no idea where he's pulled that Key Passes stat from, or how it's calculated.
Jamie Allen averages 0.8 key passes per game which is just scraping joint 100th in the league. He's far from a creative force.

Appreciate the effort that has gone in to that but quite a bit of it looks seriously flawed.
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In truth I haven't investigated it any further. If you've done further research and its proved to be bollocks, fair enough.
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #348
Frostie said:
I've no idea where he's pulled that Key Passes stat from, or how it's calculated.
Jamie Allen averages 0.8 key passes per game (Whoscored) which is just scraping joint 100th in the league. He's far from a creative force.

Appreciate the effort that has gone in to that but quite a bit of it looks seriously flawed.
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Made me laugh that it said Sheaf would be more suited to Swansea because of their ability to keep the ball and play a lot of passes, ignoring the fact that the 2 highest on the metric for passes were both Sheaf and Hamer…
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #349
Skyblue_CP said:
Made me laugh that it said Sheaf would be more suited to Swansea because of their ability to keep the ball and play a lot of passes, ignoring the fact that the 2 highest on the metric for passes were both Sheaf and Hamer…
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That doesn't make sense either... Matt Grimes averages 98.5 Passes per Game, miles more than anyone else in the league, yet he's not made the graphic even? Has he filtered it to just players that have come out top in the other metrics?
In what world is Aerial Duels an important metric for a CM too &, more to the point, how has he got Brennan Johnson in there as a CM??
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #350
Frostie said:
That doesn't make sense either... Matt Grimes averages 98.5 Passes per Game, miles more than anyone else in the league, yet he's not made the graphic even? Has he filtered it to just players that have come out top in the other metrics?
In what world is Aerial Duels an important metric for a CM too &, more to the point, how has he got Brennan Johnson in there as a CM??
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Like you said, appreciate the effort, but it’s completely incorrect
 
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