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shmmeee

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #421
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We have maxed out on the loans already. I'm assuming you bin off Panzo to avoid pissing off the other parent clubs?
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Depends on form really. Can rotate who you drop or send em back. Not sure it would piss them off too much. Shit happens in football.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #422
Evo1883 said:
Godden and Walker should be OK to see a season out .. let's be honest
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They were fine first season up. We wouldn’t get the play offs without Vik but people are only thinking we’d go down cos we’re on a bad run and everyone’s wetting the bed right now.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #423
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.
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But that £15-20 million will be there in the summer, we need to guarantee our championship position I’m sure we will, but also although it looks a bit of a long shot put a run of results together we ain’t that far from the play-off spots.

You do seem desperate to sell him been on about it constantly for weeks.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #424
slowpoke said:
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.
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But that £15-20 million will be there in the summer, we need to guarantee our championship position I’m sure we will, but also although it looks a bit of a long shot put a run of results together we ain’t that far from the play-off spots.

You do seem desperate to sell him been on about it constantly for weeks.
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Because it’s guaranteed and anything could happen. We saw that with O’Hare. We have to sell players to progress. And who knows how long a summer transfer would take. Sell him now and not only are you likely to get more cos people are desperate but you have months to line up signings that can hit the ground running pre season.

Bird in the hand and all that.
 
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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #425
Evo1883 said:
Godden and Walker should be OK to see a season out .. let's be honest
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If they stay more fit than they have for a season
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #426
For us to develop , under a proper business model without spending other people's money , we need to sell high and buy low ..

15 -20 mill in theory allows the club to upgrade in several positions and still allows ownership a nice bonus
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #427
shmmeee said:
Depends on form really. Can rotate who you drop or send em back. Not sure it would piss them off too much. Shit happens in football.
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No problem selling him just the idea of trying to replace him with hardly any time left and the market knowing we've just had a big fee come in seems a bigger risk than others are suggesting.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #428
Evo1883 said:
For us to develop , under a proper business model without spending other people's money , we need to sell high and buy low ..

15 -20 mill in theory allows the club to upgrade in several positions and still allows ownership a nice bonus
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It does, but trying it in the last few days of the January window isn't the time.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #429
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No problem selling him just the idea of trying to replace him with hardly any time left and the market knowing we've just had a big fee come in seems a bigger risk than others are suggesting.
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I don’t think it’s the end of the world if we don’t. Godden and Walker are fine lower mid table strikers. Well have Fadz back next week and a decent CB on loan so our defence should pick up. Honestly I’ve written this season off and it’s all about the summer now.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #430
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It does, but trying it in the last few days of the January window isn't the time.
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I don't think we will go down , with or without vik this season
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #431
Also .. the club have no chance of him signing an extension.. he's a wanted man , wanted above the level we play at

More wages than we can offer

(Watch him sign an extension now )
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #432
shmmeee said:
I don’t think it’s the end of the world if we don’t. Godden and Walker are fine lower mid table strikers. Well have Fadz back next week and a decent CB on loan so our defence should pick up. Honestly I’ve written this season off and it’s all about the summer now.
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Evo1883 said:
I don't think we will go down , with or without vik this season
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Here's hoping you're right. Godden's fitness is always a question and Walker is as bereft of confidence as physically possible.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #433
Evo1883 said:
Also .. the club have no chance of him signing an extension.. he's a wanted man , wanted above the level we play at

More wages than we can offer

(Watch him sign an extension now )
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Oh I totally agree, but it's not like the interest will disappear in the summer assuming he's got near 20 goals.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #434
Maybe Im scarred by that McAllister season where we stunk the place out after Xmas and scraped to 50pts but just feels too close to deadline day.....and Allen is then our top scorer

If Doug `does a McGinnity' I hope Robins is prepared cos he's gonna feel a right charlie saying theres zero chance of Vik going in Jan
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #435
higgs said:
Time to cash in now we have seanie up front

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20 goal Seanie

20 goals in his career yeah



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Evo1883

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #436
What will be will be , we will work with it and carry on regardless
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #437
Sell for £20m, go and buy Undav for £4m who still hasn’t yet been snapped up.


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slowpoke

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #438
Skybluedownunder said:
Sell for £20m, go and buy Undav for £4m who still hasn’t yet been snapped up.


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That might be happening and keeping Vic aswell.
 
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wantageskyblue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #439
slowpoke said:
But that £15-20 million will be there in the summer, we need to guarantee our championship position I’m sure we will, but also although it looks a bit of a long shot put a run of results together we ain’t that far from the play-off spots.

You do seem desperate to sell him been on about it constantly for weeks.
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Will it really be there in the summer? One year left on his contract? What’s to stop him running it down and we get nothing? Don’t get me wrong I don’t want him to go but if Everton are desperate and are willing to pay c£20m for him it’s a no brainer surely?
 

Calista

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #440
shmmeee said:
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much.
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Are you overlooking the fact that he creates half of his opportunities pretty much single handed? Are Godden or Walker going to pick up the ball miles from goal and force their way into shooting positions like Vik does?
Having waited a couple of decades for a decent centre forward, I can't believe the enthusiasm on here for selling him.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #441
Evo1883 said:
We won't be the same , we'd have to play differently for starters .. we won't go down this season I'd like to think we'd be able to invest some of the money back in at some point
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shmmeee said:
no you’ve been assured we won’t get relegated.
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Oh dear.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #442
wantageskyblue said:
Will it really be there in the summer? One year left on his contract? What’s to stop him running it down and we get nothing? Don’t get me wrong I don’t want him to go but if Everton are desperate and are willing to pay c£20m for him it’s a no brainer surely?
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Why would he run his contract down? Would be wasting a year if his career and losing out on a considerable amount of money.
 
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tomreagan84

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #443
shmmeee said:
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.
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I’m surprised Victor hit’s his xg, he misses a lot of chances.

Crucially though, he creates chances himself, especially without Callum.

Godden, when fit, is a better finisher, but where’s it coming from?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #444
tomreagan84 said:
I’m surprised Victor hit’s his xg, he misses a lot of chances.

Crucially though, he creates chances himself, especially without Callum.

Godden, when fit, is a better finisher, but where’s it coming from?
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I like Godden but the idea that he's fine in place of Gyokeres is just not true.
 
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GaryJones

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #445
So Everton have just sold Gordon to Newcastle for £45million with 4 days to go until the window closes - I can definitely see them giving Doug a call with 18-20million being put on the table!
This will be a serious test for Doug that’s for sure.
Will he? I think he will.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #446
Calista said:
Are you overlooking the fact that he creates half of his opportunities pretty much single handed? Are Godden or Walker going to pick up the ball miles from goal and force their way into shooting positions like Vik does?
Having waited a couple of decades for a decent centre forward, I can't believe the enthusiasm on here for selling him.
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I know it's ridiculous, I'm sure Frostie posted some stats about how many he creates for himself, which is miles ahead of any other players in the league. At least half his goals he has created himself. Hes a 1 man wrecking ball who drags us up the pitch 30-40 yards single handedly. The idea we wouldn't miss him and we would score as many goals without it him is ridiculous.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #447
stupot07 said:
I know it's ridiculous, I'm sure Frostie posted some stats about how many he creates for himself, which is miles ahead of any other players in the league. At least half his goals he has created himself. Hes a 1 man wrecking ball who drags us up the pitch 30-40 yards single handedly. The idea we wouldn't miss him and we would score as many goals without it him is ridiculous.

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Or the idea we’d spend more than £1m on a replacement
 
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Perryccfc

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #448
I really don’t get the people saying they would sell him. Madness.

We could sell him for around £15mil now (his rough value in my opinion) or, we could sell him for £15mil in the summer, possibly a tad more. Why sell now? Other than a risk of serious injury there is no sensible reasoning.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #449
Knowing Everton are now cashed up and desperate I’d be holding for £20m


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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #450
Perryccfc said:
I really don’t get the people saying they would sell him. Madness.

We could sell him for around £15mil now (his rough value in my opinion) or, we could sell him for £15mil in the summer, possibly a tad more. Why sell now? Other than a risk of serious injury there is no sensible reasoning.
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Exactly. If he carries on playing as well for the rest of the season his value goes up not down. He still has a year left on his contract, and it wouldn't be in his interests to run it down.
 

kimbie87

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #451
Skybluedownunder said:
Knowing Everton are now cashed up and desperate I’d be holding for £20m


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Problem is, if we sell we are in exactly the same position as them with less time on the clock before the window closes. We will have to massively pay over the odds to get someone through the door. Unless we are clear 4-5million over our valuation I don't see how it makes sense.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #452
shmmeee said:
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.
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It’s clearly not just the goals with Vik though, he’s often the only option route we have to go forward and keep the ball, without Ohare anyway


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rexo87

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #453
I think we are in a fairly good position. Everton are desperate, end of the window etc. we can ask for stupid money. Vik may kick off for a couple of days but get until past the window and he would get over it and have to knuckle down until the summer to get a good move again


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wantageskyblue

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #454
Deleted member 9744 said:
Why would he run his contract down? Would be wasting a year if his career and losing out on a considerable amount of money.
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What? So his agent isn’t in his ear saying Vik let your contract run down with Cov and I can get you a £x million signing on fee plus £xK per week in salary?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 27, 2023
  • #455
stupot07 said:
I know it's ridiculous, I'm sure Frostie posted some stats about how many he creates for himself, which is miles ahead of any other players in the league. At least half his goals he has created himself. Hes a 1 man wrecking ball who drags us up the pitch 30-40 yards single handedly. The idea we wouldn't miss him and we would score as many goals without it him is ridiculous.

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Indeed
 
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