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The Philosopher · Jan 27, 2023

Selling Gyok would be madness. We need our Championship status and the TV income that brings. Plus, the value of the goodwill element of this football club on the balance sheet is probably halved at L1. DK must know this.

Best money spent this window would be to increase Viks wages and extend his contract. That way his value doesn’t fall in the summer.

I do worry where the goals would come from if Vik went. Years ago we sold Jutkevic (sp?) at around now and look what happened. Vik is far better.

15-20m

No.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

SBAndy said:
I’ve been championing his sale in this window but, yeah, we’re 4 days away from the end and I think we’d really struggle to get anyone suitable in, even to tie us over to the summer.

If the plan was to sell him you’d do it at the start to drive up the bidding and find time to replace him. But it seems risky now unless the other is a hefty 8 figure sum

Old Warwickshire lad · Jan 27, 2023

Tough call, no one realistically wants him to go.
But anywhere near £20 mill is just a lot to turn down.
Would not want to have to make that decision, jeez the flak would fly.
Think that would be one decision King would drop in Robins lap.

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 27, 2023

Grendel said:
I think we’ll survive anyway it’s really a Leslie Crowther moment I guess

It's odd that getting rid of Waghorn was portrayed as a disaster but you're fine with selling Gyokeres.

Johhny Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Skyblue54 said:
Trouble is there's not many players we'd want from everton!!..

Maybe we could negotiate the stadium

Grendel · Jan 27, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think all your comments on a Gyokeres sale speak for themselves

i think we would this season survive so it’s a case of if the buying club is desperate enough

Grendel · Jan 27, 2023

Deleted member 9744 said:
It's odd that getting rid of Waghorn was portrayed as a disaster but you're fine with selling Gyokeres.

Id love to see a link to support that view

The Philosopher · Jan 27, 2023

Skyblue54 said:
Trouble is there's not many players we'd want from everton!!..

Maybe Begovic on loan.

Johhny Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Let him go. Then get promoted and buy him back from championship Everton

fernandopartridge · Jan 27, 2023

Grendel said:
i think we would this season survive so it’s a case of if the buying club is desperate enough

If they are desperate then you just hold out

Grendel · Jan 27, 2023

fernandopartridge said:
If they are desperate then you just hold out

say they offer £20 million

Northants Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

People starting on the pop early tonight I see!

Take his goals away and that team is on its arse sliding towards the bottom 3

JimmyHillsbeard · Jan 27, 2023

I’m reassured that the source of this story is Football League World.

I know everyone mentions how the Jutkewicz sale cost us our championship status so I’ll just add that selling Marvin Sordell (in exchange for Stuart Beavon) pretty much confirmed our relegation to League Two.

Greggs · Jan 27, 2023

slowpoke said:
So could his replacement.

Awful logic.

Northants Sky Blue said:
People starting on the pop early tonight I see!

Take his goals away and that team is on its arse sliding towards the bottom 3

It's nearly half 9, what time do you usually start?!?!

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 27, 2023

JimmyHillsbeard said:
I’m reassured that the source of this story is Football League World.

I know everyone mentions how the Jutkewicz sale cost us our championship status so I’ll just add that selling Marvin Sordell (in exchange for Stuart Beavon) pretty much confirmed our relegation to League Two.

I'll see your Sordell and raise you flogging Gibson worked out OK, even if we had to endure a dozen games from Alan Brazil first.

Tommo1993 · Jan 27, 2023

Northants Sky Blue said:
People starting on the pop early tonight I see!

Take his goals away and that team is on its arse sliding towards the bottom 3

Without his goals we’re 24th with 19 points. Sell him now though with 4 days to go…

Evo1883 · Jan 27, 2023

Almost no championship clubs will turn down 15-20 million for a striker

Tommo1993 · Jan 27, 2023

Evo1883 said:
Almost no championship clubs will turn down 15-20 million for a striker

Agree. Madness to not. Can’t bank on it being adequately reinvested though, with such a short time left.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Grendel said:
i think we would this season survive so it’s a case of if the buying club is desperate enough

Hmmm. It's a bumpy ride with him here. I'll leave it to you to suggest how it pans out if he goes and isn't adequately replaced.

Grendel said:
Answer this. If Gyokeres has an injury on Wednesday and he is out for the season - what are the chances?

Grendel said:
No it’s getting rid of the key striker - Keane and Juke

Grendel said:
Delusional nonsense that we are top 6 material isn’t at all helpful - we aren’t and that’s it.

We need to dig out results and not crow we are a great football team. This season is about survival and that’s it - Paxman thinks we are one of the best teams and that guy thinks we are the best midfield i the league

You have to challenge nonsense and if we have to lose Gyokeres in January it’s really a long hard season ahead

Grendel said:
Where would we be without Gyokeres?

Grendel said:
We’ve scored a pathetic 27 league goals this season

Gyokeres has 12 of them. 3 are from Godden whose injured so we have 12 from available players in 25 games. If you had your way and Allen was shipped out it’s 9 in 25 games

Actually 8 as Mcfazdean is out for most of the season

Grendel said:
I have no idea why you keep blathering on. It’s good value if it works as it’s a drop in the ocean - we have released Kane and Waghorn and you would assume they are costing more than the two loans

The fact we currently have zero players at all we can even use off the bench tells me we are in some trouble - our wage bill will be hugely reduced in June when so we have more than enough opportunity to start again

You of course have long touted the view Gyokeres should be moved on - given he accounts for half our pathetic goal tally thats a plan even Baldrick would find less than cunning

Grendel said:
The games we had O Hare in the team will save us - there’s a lot of teams between us and the bottom 3. If Gyokeres is injured yes we are in real trouble but with him we will stay up

Grendel said:
It clearly is a benefit as selling Gyokeres could lead to relegation which costs £7m in TV revenue alone

skyblueelephant76 · Jan 27, 2023

Tommo1993 said:
Without his goals we’re 24th with 19 points. Sell him now though with 4 days to go…

If we'd been playing with 10 men all season we probably would be bottom...

Northants Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Deleted member 5849 said:
we had to endure a dozen games from Alan Brazil first.

https://giphy.com/xT5LMMI3dR7ASz1Pu8

Evo1883 · Jan 27, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmmm. It's a bumpy ride with him here. I'll leave it to you to suggest how it pans out if he goes and isn't adequately replaced.

Yes but apart from those times

SomersetSB · Jan 27, 2023

Everton getting 40-45m for Gordon from Newcastle so 25m at least for Vik.
How much was McBurnie from Swansea for Sheff Utd?
He’s a better player than him.
Not right to sell now though.

Tommo1993 · Jan 27, 2023

skyblueelephant76 said:
If we'd been playing with 10 men all season we probably would be bottom...

Tbf, saying Gyokeres hasn’t carried us this season would be disagreeing with Robins’ own opinion, and I haven’t done that a lot. Think it would be horrific from this point to sell him.

Grendel · Jan 27, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hmmm. It's a bumpy ride with him here. I'll leave it to you to suggest how it pans out if he goes and isn't adequately replaced.

interesting you seem obsessed with my history on the subject - I did say the price is right

Say they offered £50 million cash - would you say no?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Grendel said:
interesting you seem obsessed with my history on the subject - I did say the price is right

Say they offered £50 million cash - would you say no?

Not obsessed just interested that you've gone from being pretty sure we'd be in trouble if he went to thinking we'll probably manage without. They're never offering £50 million.

samccov1987 · Jan 27, 2023

£20m and we have to sell him especially with the clock ticking on his contract. O’Hare injured and Gus not tearing up trees and from the current squad our only major asset.

That said I think we are poor at the moment and without him think we’d struggle to stay up.

If we had £10m to spend on players to replace him I couldn’t tell you who I’d buy and be confident of beating the drop.

Grendel · Jan 27, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not obsessed just interested that you've gone from being pretty sure we'd be in trouble if he went to thinking we'll probably manage without. They're never offering £50 million.

My point is if the price is right? So what prove in your view would be right? Or is there no price that’s acceptable?

King it seems owns the lot now so you’d have to I suppose take him at face value. Let’s say they offered £25 million - not that unrealistic - and king said to robins it’s all yours in the summer?

What then?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

samccov1987 said:
£20m and we have to sell him especially with the clock ticking on his contract. O’Hare injured and Gus not tearing up trees and from the current squad our only major asset.

That said I think we are poor at the moment and without him think we’d struggle to stay up.

If we had £10m to spend on players to replace him I couldn’t tell you who I’d buy and be confident of beating the drop.

If we were sat nearer to 50 points then sure, get the money in now. But we're in terrible form and struggling for goals.

Getting relegated has big costs of its own. Stay up, the interest in Gyo isn't going anywhere.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

Grendel said:
My point is if the price is right? So what prove in your view would be right? Or is there no price that’s acceptable?

King it seems owns the lot now so you’d have to I suppose take him at face value. Let’s say they offered £25 million - not that unrealistic - and king said to robins it’s all yours in the summer?

What then?

Irrelevant if I'm spending it in League 1 in a half empty stadium and most of the squad wanting out.

Blind-Faith · Jan 27, 2023

Can’t image we could turn down 20 million. Never thought I’d see the day we’d sell anyone for that price.

If we could reinvest half of it , we could get ourselves another 3-4 hamer/sheaf type signings , not positional wise, but around the £1-2 million mark, makes the squad stronger and then we’re not relying so heavily on just one player to win us games of football

shmmeee · Jan 27, 2023

The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 27, 2023

Debt free plus a large wedge of cash to spend in the summer means I'd take a washed up old has-been for the deferred gratification.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2023

shmmeee said:
The idea that without Vik we wouldn’t score any goals is ridiculous. He hits about his xG. Any half decent striker would score, even if not quite as much. Plenty of time for a cheeky loan until the end of the season. Someone like Undav who would score in this division and is an available.

Even on £20k/week that’s less than £1m outlay from whatever fee we get then lots of time to plan a rebuild. Unless Doug is promising £15-20m out his own pocket in the summer you’d be nuts not to sell.

We have maxed out on the loans already. I'm assuming you bin off Panzo to avoid pissing off the other parent clubs?

Evo1883 · Jan 27, 2023

Godden and Walker should be OK to see a season out .. let's be honest

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