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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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I cannot see CCFC getting a penny over £15m for Gyokeres.

Is he worth more than that, not in my opinion based on the fact that Gyok has 12 months left on his contract.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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His value actually went up on here from January... until people hadn't seen him play in a week or two
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
I cannot see CCFC getting a penny over £15m for Gyokeres.

Is he worth more than that, not in my opinion based on the fact that Gyok has 12 months left on his contract.
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On the face of it, no. But if there are multiple genuinely interested parties which are keen then he'll go for more than £15m.

Personally I think Sporting Lisbon, a club that traditionally doesn't spend a great deal on players, coming in with the fee they have early in the window puts in the club in a good position.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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It's claimed today in www.hammers.news that west ham are seriously interested at £20M. I have thought for a while that he will go there, and nothing has happened to change my mind.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Snap their hands off and start the rebuild.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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steve cooper said:
It's claimed today in www.hammers.news that west ham are seriously interested at £20M. I have thought for a while that he will go there, and nothing has happened to change my mind.
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The Sunday Mirror reports that Coventry have bumped their valuation by £10m up to £30m – which would likely be way out of Sporting’s reach and more in line with what West Ham could afford
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Sportings is a disgraceful offer.

Would be looking for atleast £25m with this much interest though.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Ccfcisparks said:
Sportings is a disgraceful offer.

Would be looking for atleast £25m with this much interest though.
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£25m for a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League and has one year left on his contract?

No chance.

Adam Armstrong was sold to Southampton with a similar contract length remaining for £15m (reported). City might get lucky if other clubs get into a bidding war, but clubs will be looking for proven quality and Gyok doesn't have that in the Premier League so will be a risk to any interested clubs.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
£25m for a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League and has one year left on his contract?

No chance.

Adam Armstrong was sold to Southampton with a similar contract length remaining for £15m (reported). City might get lucky if other clubs get into a bidding war, but clubs will be looking for proven quality and Gyok doesn't have that in the Premier League so will be a risk to any interested clubs.
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So how much are you saying he goes for?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Ccfcisparks said:
So how much are you saying he goes for?
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£15m - £18m IMO.

Similar goals per game records as well.

Armstrong a goal every 2.5 games for Blackburn and Gyok is getting a goal in every 2.3 games for us.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
£15m - £18m IMO.

Similar goals per game records as well.

Armstrong a goal every 2.5 games for Blackburn and Gyok is getting a goal in every 2.3 games for us.
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I think you will be pleasently surprised then.

Gyokeres offers a lot more to teams than just goals compared to Armstrong.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Ccfcisparks said:
I think you will be pleasently surprised then.

Gyokeres offers a lot more to teams than just goals compared to Armstrong.
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Indeed he does, but IMO we won't get £25m for him. Would be happy to see it, but given Sporting's opening offer was less than half of £25m, it's clear clubs don't rate his value as high.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
Indeed he does, but IMO we won't get £25m for him. Would be happy to see it, but given Sporting's opening offer was less than half of £25m, it's clear clubs don't rate his value as high.
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Portuguese teams are nowhere near as flush with money as English teams.

If we were to see an opening bid from a Prem team it would be starting at £18m I'd imagine.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
Indeed he does, but IMO we won't get £25m for him. Would be happy to see it, but given Sporting's opening offer was less than half of £25m, it's clear clubs don't rate his value as high.
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Sporting's record transfer stands at €16m. They were never going to offer much higher than the bid they've just submitted.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
£25m for a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League and has one year left on his contract?

No chance.

Adam Armstrong was sold to Southampton with a similar contract length remaining for £15m (reported). City might get lucky if other clubs get into a bidding war, but clubs will be looking for proven quality and Gyok doesn't have that in the Premier League so will be a risk to any interested clubs.
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Can’t say I agree. Ollie Watkins never played in the Premiership and went to Villa from Brentford for £28m. Then players like Bellingham, Maddison, Benrahma all going for well over £20m+.

Vik is an international striker as well and a talent. There’s a reason half the premiership and plenty of European clubs want him. We can easily get £20m+ just like other stars in the Champ before him.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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people not realising that when you have 4-5 bidders, the 1 year on his contract is a bit of a red herring
it is an auction based on who will pay the most for him
I would expect a minimum of £20m with a couple of quality loanees thrown in (not of the bournemouth variety)
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
£25m for a player who has never kicked a ball in the Premier League and has one year left on his contract?

No chance.

Adam Armstrong was sold to Southampton with a similar contract length remaining for £15m (reported). City might get lucky if other clubs get into a bidding war, but clubs will be looking for proven quality and Gyok doesn't have that in the Premier League so will be a risk to any interested clubs.
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Nowhere near as good
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #1,418
Robinshio said:
people not realising that when you have 4-5 bidders, the 1 year on his contract is a bit of a red herring
it is an auction based on who will pay the most for him
I would expect a minimum of £20m with a couple of quality loanees thrown in (not of the bournemouth variety)
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But it’s not an auction, it’s more a game of chicken. We can see opening offers of same 15m - we have to decide a figure to accept or risk teams dropping out

if say we accept 17m it means the other teams are likely to bid 17m not trying to one up each other
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #1,419
Robinshio said:
people not realising that when you have 4-5 bidders, the 1 year on his contract is a bit of a red herring
it is an auction based on who will pay the most for him
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I agree.

No one will be getting him on a free next year so if they really want him they'll have to pay big this summer.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #1,420
sky sports journo
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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I do think some people on here are down playing the fee due to one year left on contract. Vik has a special talent and is up there with Cyrille, Dion, Keane, Nuddy and to a lesser extent but great talent Kevin Gallagher as forwards for City.
Some transfer fees in recent times have been ludicrous for players with less talent.

Vik is exceptional with some flaws. Being amongst better players and in theory better coaches( no slight on Mark or Adi) will improve his impact even more.
 
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Finham

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Becuase these days most football clubs operate a director of football model, the players are brought in to fit a system as is a manager. It’s a continuity thing - basically the manager effectively works with what he’s given
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They need to re-name Football Manager. And it suggests that this (very difficult one, if I remember correctly) franchise was decades ahead of its time:

 
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PVA

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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SleepyGinger said:
sky sports journo
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I think he's just rehashing the story from Portugal which said we want €20m (which is £17m), I don't think there's any new info there
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #1,424

Sporting Viktor Gyokeres obriga a negócio recorde | Abola.pt | Abola.pt

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New article today. Sporting know they have to break their transfer record and they are willing to… going to heat up in the coming days.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #1,425
AFCCOVENTRY said:

Sporting Viktor Gyokeres obriga a negócio recorde | Abola.pt | Abola.pt

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abola.pt

New article today. Sporting know they have to break their transfer record and they are willing to… going to heat up in the coming days.
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I’d be gobsmacked if he went to sporting Lisbon
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But it’s not an auction, it’s more a game of chicken. We can see opening offers of same 15m - we have to decide a figure to accept or risk teams dropping out

if say we accept 17m it means the other teams are likely to bid 17m not trying to one up each other
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Then we don't accept 17m! Not this early anyway. Once we get close to August of course then its a different matter! I have thought West Ham are a likely destination for a while, but I think the majority of PL clubs outside the top 8 will have him on their radar as of now and if we negotiate wisely I don't see why we shouldn't get £20m+ for him.

I think the issue of there being only one year on his contract has also been overstated. Been trying to think of a similar Championship scenario and saw that when Eze went from QPR to Palace he was in his final year too. Palace reportedly offered £12m at the beginning of August before eventually signing him for £17m on August 28th, so in that instance his value did not diminish the nearer the deadline came.

At the end of the day there are so many variables, and you are definitely right that it is a game of chicken, factoring in how desperate we are to sell/ how desperate are the buyers/ who will Gyokeres want to join/ when in the window do we want to sell him? I guess it is feasible he could still even start the season with us, which would then add further dynamics depending on how well he starts, and how poorly (and therefore desperate) some of his PL suitors might start their seasons.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I’d be gobsmacked if he went to sporting Lisbon
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Why? Its a big club and often a gateway club to very big clubs. Can 100% see why someone would go there over a garbage Premier League club like Burnley...

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Finham

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play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
I do think some people on here are down playing the fee due to one year left on contract. Vik has a special talent and is up there with Cyrille, Dion, Keane, Nuddy and to a lesser extent but great talent Kevin Gallagher as forwards for City.
Some transfer fees in recent times have been ludicrous for players with less talent.

Vik is exceptional with some flaws. Being amongst better players and in theory better coaches( no slight on Mark or Adi) will improve his impact even more.
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I'd put Gally on a par with Nuddy at least!
 
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baldy

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Finham said:
I'd put Gally on a par with Nuddy at least!
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My first ever favourite City player ol Kev
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I’d be gobsmacked if he went to sporting Lisbon
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I'd be shocked unless the were the only team interested.

The PL teams can and if genuinely interested will pay more in fees and wages.
 

higgs

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  • Jun 7, 2023
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Dortmund would be a good fit for him with all the bellingham cash now

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TomRad85 said:
Why? Its a big club and often a gateway club to very big clubs. Can 100% see why someone would go there over a garbage Premier League club like Burnley...

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Yeah do well, and your next move is a good Spanish club isn't it.

That said, I always thought Germany was a more likely destination if he didn't stay in England, just because his style of play would fit, maybe a Leverkusen type level?
 
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TomRad85

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah do well, and your next move is a good Spanish club isn't it.

That said, I always thought Germany was a more likely destination if he didn't stay in England, just because his style of play would fit, maybe a Leverkusen type level?
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I agree completely, just shutting down the playing down of fairly large European clubs before it begins because Sky have convinced people the English Premier League is the be-all and end-all.

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TomRad85 said:
I agree completely, just shutting down the playing down of fairly large European clubs before it begins because Sky have convinced people the English Premier League is the be-all and end-all.

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Play in European competition and do well, and it can catapult you up the levels can't it, plus he might actually win a trophy or two. Main issue I'd have with the Sporting rumour is they're an unstable mess, and think he's probably got enough about him not to hurl himself into such a situation!
 
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TomRad85

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Play in Euopean competition and do well, and it can catapult you up the levels can't it, plus he might actually win a trophy or two. Main issue I'd have with the Sporting rumour is they're an unstable mess, and think he's probably got enough about him not to hurl himself into such a situation!
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Maybe he'll fly over for a medical and try and convince Porto or Benfica to stick a late bid in as he's passing by.

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