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steve cooper

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #36
Strange, because in the summer people were saying we wouldn't even get £10M for him because he only had 1 year left on his contract and could talk to other clubs in January.
 
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Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #37
Greggs said:
Chelsea paid 40 million for Cole Palmer who played 19 time for Man City in 3 years. Your argument is invalid.
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The important thing is we reinvested the money well.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #38
Greggs said:
How much do you think he's currently worth?
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Irrelevant we either sold then or pissed him off and lost him for free.

We squeezed the max out of the deal to the point that Prem teams moaned that we were asking too much.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #39
Greggs said:
Who 3 months later is being valued at 60-70 million. Does that not just slightly frustrate you and make you wonder what might have been?

What is going on in people's lives that makes them so timid, accepting and passive.
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To be fair, his goals this season seem to show an improvement in, and a higher quality of, finishing, something he was regularly criticised for on this site.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #40
Greggs said:
Who 3 months later is being valued at 60-70 million. Does that not just slightly frustrate you and make you wonder what might have been?

What is going on in people's lives that makes them so timid, accepting and passive.
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IF we'd been promoted and IF he'd kept scoring at a similar rate in the Prem he might have been worth that much.

But neither of those things came true, so it was a good deal for us.

If a lottery ticket's a winner it might be worth a million quid, doesn't mean I can flog mine for that much before the draw!
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2023
  • #41
Greggs said:
Who 3 months later is being valued at 60-70 million. Does that not just slightly frustrate you and make you wonder what might have been?

What is going on in people's lives that makes them so timid, accepting and passive.
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His value was impaired by the fact he had 12 months left on his contract

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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2023
  • #42
Greggs said:
Really? His value has doubled in 3 months. If we'd have got promoted we could have sold him for 50-60.
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Well if his value has doubled it’s because he’s playing for one of the best teams in a second rate league, not the Premier League we would have been promoted to.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2023
  • #43
Greggs said:
Really? His value has doubled in 3 months. If we'd have got promoted we could have sold him for 50-60.
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Would we have sold him if we had been promoted?
 
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Cally Fedora

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2023
  • #44
He may have stayed. But equally I don’t think he gets you more than 10-12 Prem goals.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 18, 2023
  • #45
MalcSB said:
Would we have sold him if we had been promoted?
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Probably would have signed a new deal with a relegation clause, likewise Hamer.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2023
  • #46
curly_tom said:
That's a strange comment. He wasn't worth £60m and wouldn't have been had we been promoted. It might have gone up had he had a great season in the Premier League but he may not have stayed even if we had gone up. No-ne would pay £60m for a player unproven in a top league. I would be surprised if he got to £60m even if he has a great season for Sporting. We got a very good deal for him I think and to get a bit more if he does well would be excellent too
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Likewise, had we got promoted, we would have been favourites for relegation so we’d be in a position where we’d be unlikely to command a large fee.

In preseason I was banging the drum about how Gyo wouldn’t go to Lisbon over Prem teams. Actually, going to Lisbon makes a lot of sense as he can showcase himself a lot better than at the likes of Crystal Palace, West Ham, Brentford and so on.

We got a really good deal for Gyokeres in the circumstances. It’s possible Gyokeres may have wanted to leave had we got promoted in any case.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • Nov 19, 2023
  • #47
And an £88m release clause - enough for another record striker siging when they sell him !
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2023
  • #48
MalcSB said:
Would we have sold him if we had been promoted?
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I think he was always off. Even promoted we couldn’t offer him European football.
 
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The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2023
  • #49
shmmeee said:
I think he was always off. Even promoted we couldn’t offer him European football.
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He was asked at a recorded fans forum:

“Are you staying”

“If we are in the Premier league” was his reply.

He strikes me as the kind of bloke to give a straight answer and stick to it. He probably missed out the “as long as you pay me bundles” bit but yes, I think he would have if the money was right.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2023
  • #50
The Philosopher said:
He was asked at a recorded fans forum:

“Are you staying”

“If we are in the Premier league” was his reply.

He strikes me as the kind of bloke to give a straight answer and stick to it. He probably missed out the “as long as you pay me bundles” bit but yes, I think he would have if the money was right.
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Staying and signing a new contract are two different things. He certainly wouldn’t have forced a move like he did in the end, but equally, wasn’t guaranteed to sign new terms.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Nov 22, 2023
  • #51
Greggs said:
We sold a 60 million quid player for 20 million. Great deal.
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but also a player in the final year of his contract who we risked losing for nothing, so £20m+ is still a decent deal no matter the spin put on it
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 22, 2023
  • #52
sw88 said:
but also a player in the final year of his contract who we risked losing for nothing, so £20m+ is still a decent deal no matter the spin put on it
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Poor Dabo.

He must know how much that kick cost us.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 22, 2023
  • #53
The Philosopher said:
Poor Dabo.

He must know how much that kick cost us.
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It would have gone round to sudden death again even if he scored
 
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Skybluedownunder

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2023
  • #54

Arsenal want prolific £85m striker - and will sell key forward to fund move: report

Arsenal are in the market for a striker, and could be about to let one of theirs leave the club to make room
www.fourfourtwo.com

Ruthless Arsenal to sell Nketiah as Arteta clears deck for lethal striker with gigantic release clause

Arsenal have been named as one of three Premier League sides chasing a potent striker who only changed clubs in the last transfer window, and a second report claims Eddie Nketiah will make way to free up funds.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 5, 2023
  • #55
SlowerThanPlatt said:
It would have gone round to sudden death again even if he scored
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With an increased chance that as time went on someone from their side would miss or Wilson would make a save.

'Even if he had scored' is the optimum part here. He was never going to. We still had a great chance to get to the Premier League before he stepped up, and most people's reaction around me when he went forward knew what was probably about to happen.

It's a massive shame and I'm sure it must be hard for him, but it was inevitable from where I was sitting and there's too much denial about it still happening.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #56
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
With an increased chance that as time went on someone from their side would miss or Wilson would make a save.

'Even if he had scored' is the optimum part here. He was never going to. We still had a great chance to get to the Premier League before he stepped up, and most people's reaction around me when he went forward knew what was probably about to happen.

It's a massive shame and I'm sure it must be hard for him, but it was inevitable from where I was sitting and there's too much denial about it still happening.
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I just sat down in resignation when he walked up. Still remember the faces on everyone around me now. A collective 'wtf' moment.

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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #57
Skybluedownunder said:

Arsenal want prolific £85m striker - and will sell key forward to fund move: report

Arsenal are in the market for a striker, and could be about to let one of theirs leave the club to make room
www.fourfourtwo.com

Ruthless Arsenal to sell Nketiah as Arteta clears deck for lethal striker with gigantic release clause

Arsenal have been named as one of three Premier League sides chasing a potent striker who only changed clubs in the last transfer window, and a second report claims Eddie Nketiah will make way to free up funds.
www.teamtalk.com




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Get Chelsea involved and it’ll go up to £185m
 
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duffer

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #58
The Philosopher said:
Poor Dabo.

He must know how much that kick cost us.
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What cost us was not winning the game in normal time. Dabo was a good servant to the club, pinning this on one moment, by one player, isn't quite right, imho.

As for VK, we got a bloody good deal; if he's worth even more now, fair enough - we'll still do ok out of it...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #59
duffer said:
What cost us was not winning the game in normal time. Dabo was a good servant to the club, pinning this on one moment, by one player, isn't quite right, imho.

As for VK, we got a bloody good deal; if he's worth even more now, fair enough - we'll still do ok out of it...
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The injury to Gus is what dunnit in several respects
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #60
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The injury to Gus is what dunnit in several respects
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Well that and first half before we got to grips with them, you'd have to say they had the plan right hit us hard but unlike the previous visits didn't carry any benefit.
Obviously the team weren't accostumed to it but the management were, I expected better.I wouldn't get too sentimental if this form doesn't improve .
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #61
Told you we sold him too cheap! How much did Shef United pay for Brewster, Mcburnie etc?
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #62
Greggs said:
Told you we sold him too cheap! How much did Shef United pay for Brewster, Mcburnie etc?
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If we end up getting another 10 then we've done ok. The amount Sheffield Utd paid for those 2 shit houses is criminal tbf.

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lord_garrincha

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #63
TomRad85 said:
I just sat down in resignation when he walked up. Still remember the faces on everyone around me now. A collective 'wtf' moment.

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This... I was more gutted for those 45 seconds after they 'went 2-1 up' near the end.

I had accepted my fate when I saw him on the big screen.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #64
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
With an increased chance that as time went on someone from their side would miss or Wilson would make a save.

'Even if he had scored' is the optimum part here. He was never going to. We still had a great chance to get to the Premier League before he stepped up, and most people's reaction around me when he went forward knew what was probably about to happen.

It's a massive shame and I'm sure it must be hard for him, but it was inevitable from where I was sitting and there's too much denial about it still happening.
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The quality of our penalty takers reduced dramatically after Vik/Godden and people around me were amazed we scored the first 5.

I've no idea whether Luton had established penalty takers, but it felt inevitable we'd miss first bearing in mind who we had left on the pitch, that we went second and we were in front of the Luton fans.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #65
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Get Chelsea involved and it’ll go up to £185m
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Including Fulham in the list of clubs is a bit of giveaway the original source has made it up.

David Ornstein is their go to if they wanted to put something out there.
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #66
TomRad85 said:
I just sat down in resignation when he walked up. Still remember the faces on everyone around me now. A collective 'wtf' moment.

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Did exactly the same. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #67
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
With an increased chance that as time went on someone from their side would miss or Wilson would make a save.

'Even if he had scored' is the optimum part here. He was never going to. We still had a great chance to get to the Premier League before he stepped up, and most people's reaction around me when he went forward knew what was probably about to happen.

It's a massive shame and I'm sure it must be hard for him, but it was inevitable from where I was sitting and there's too much denial about it still happening.
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I don’t particularly care for Dabo either way, just pointing out it wasn’t score and up we go as it has been rewritten by some.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #68
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I don’t particularly care for Dabo either way, just pointing out it wasn’t score and up we go as it has been rewritten by some.
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It was however miss and they go up
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #69
Dabo had the balls to put his hands up, kept expecting Fadz to take one, but obviously didn't fancy it.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Dec 6, 2023
  • #70
No one here is infallible and there are times when I do question Robins’ logic (it is allowed you know). It’s ok to question for example, why Ayari started last game; there may be a good reason but as fans the majority don’t see it. I think everyone on here, no matter what they say about the Dabo subject, has questioned why MR made a certain decision at some point. It happens. Even MR admits wrong decisions, see Wrexham for details.

It will always be a mystery as to why Bidwell (set piece dead ball taker) and skipper Fadz or even Ben Wilson weren’t encouraged / pre-determined to go up ahead of Dabo. Yes, they too could have missed or whatever but Dabo would not have been in many people’s list of who should go next.

Anyway. It’s done now and that’s that but it’ll always be a rare mad decision in my mind.
 
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