Ground to big for Rugby (1 Viewer)

Macca1987 · Oct 20, 2016

Morning all
Been a reader for years but first post so treat me gently. CCFC fan for many years like most on here and got to the stage where all the sound bites coming out about new stadium etc got me finally to do something.
Like a lot of others I work near BPA and cannot see a 23/25 k stadium being built, so I wrote to Jon Sharp asking about plans or drawings (not really expecting a reply) but I received one, he confirmed that artistic impressions etc had been drawn up but stated that any ground of the size Tim Fisher was talking about would be way too big for CRFC, he then went on to say he would be making no further comment at this moment in time, I know BPA has been done to death on here but it confirmed my thoughts that it would never happen for the size TF is alluding to

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 20, 2016

Welcome Macca. Great post. I wonder if TF has ever thought about a new stadium

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Oct 20, 2016

Macca1987 said:
Morning all
Been a reader for years but first post so treat me gently. CCFC fan for many years like most on here and got to the stage where all the sound bites coming out about new stadium etc got me finally to do something.
Like a lot of others I work near BPA and cannot see a 23/25 k stadium being built, so I wrote to Jon Sharp asking about plans or drawings (not really expecting a reply) but I received one, he confirmed that artistic impressions etc had been drawn up but stated that any ground of the size Tim Fisher was talking about would be way too big for CRFC, he then went on to say he would be making no further comment at this moment in time, I know BPA has been done to death on here but it confirmed my thoughts that it would never happen for the size TF is alluding to

Welcome Macca1987. I hope you're thick Skinned.

Macca1987 · Oct 20, 2016

Come from Holbrooks so need to be very thick skinned

Joy Division · Oct 20, 2016

***EDIT nothing to see here

shy_tall_knight · Oct 20, 2016

Looks lovely when we moving in

Captain Dart · Oct 20, 2016

I think the real issue here is that Cov do not have finance and are only dabbling with Fisher because he is talking about getting the money.

However I do not believe that SISU or Fisher will ever come up with the sort of money required (£20-25M).

I think if Sharp and his co-investors build anything it will be a stand at the car park end with built in retail/residential/leisure which will increase the capacity and provide the club with an income to support its sporting activities. Further development would take place in later phases as and when finance/funds become available.

That sort of development could be done for £7-8M and 'feels' more feasible because a lot of the cost could be covered by leasing the residential units at c.£150K each, with 30 units you are well on the way to covering the build costs.

skybluesam66 · Oct 20, 2016

so they are talking about investing sums greater than what they could have got the ricoh for

Im out!

Skyblueweeman · Oct 20, 2016

Macca1987, welcome.

Another new comer who has been reading for years but not commented and when they do, it's not on match threads, injury news, signings etc.?

Sorry mate, I'm just a little sceptical. Welcome anyway...

Macca1987 · Oct 20, 2016

Skyblueweeman said:
Macca1987, welcome.

Another new comer who has been reading for years but not commented and when they do, it's not on match threads, injury news, signings etc.?

Sorry mate, I'm just a little sceptical. Welcome anyway...

Macca1987 · Oct 20, 2016

Can understand weeman, it was just something that got my goat (prepares for the backlash of animal remarks) but I am genuine and will hopefully take the time now that I'm no longer a virgin poster to comment on all things Sky Blue

hill83 · Oct 20, 2016

*'too'

Nick · Oct 20, 2016

Macca1987 said:
Can understand weeman, it was just something that got my goat (prepares for the backlash of animal remarks) but I am genuine and will hopefully take the time now that I'm no longer a virgin poster to comment on all things Sky Blue

I think Sharp has said before about it being too big didn't he?

Welcome to the site

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Oct 20, 2016

Macca1987 said:
Come from Holbrooks so need to be very thick skinned

Born in Tile Hill, Standard Avenue to be precise . Then my parents moved to Green Lane, Kempas Highway ,
When I was a kid. Not far from the Burnt Post, posher area well it was then. PUSB.

Gint11 · Oct 20, 2016

Pause on stadium size for 1 second, the current infrastructure wouldn't cope either.

dongonzalos · Oct 20, 2016

How much could you sell CCFC for if it was in a 10-11k capacity stadium. Either in division 3 or 4 making a profit not a loss. As part of a multi functional facility. That is making money from some shops and student accommodation.
Or
if you didn't sell it and your investment portfolio included very long term investments. Could you just manage it making year on year profits?

I can't help but think it was all about 12k, 13k capacities with the "potential to rise to 23k". When the idea was possible.

Now the idea is dead in the water it's seems to be the council are blocking a 25k stadium.

dongonzalos · Oct 20, 2016

Nick said:
I think Sharp has said before about it being too big didn't he?

Welcome to the site

He didn't want the same as big as Rotherham (I think) . Which is about 12-13k I think?

Liquid Gold · Oct 20, 2016

if it was a 10k seater we could move there for a couple years till wasps go bust and then we could pick up the ricoh again.

CCC probably have an nfl team or something lined up instead though.

dongonzalos · Oct 20, 2016

Liquid Gold said:
if it was a 10k seater we could move there for a couple years till wasps go bust and then we could pick up the ricoh again.

CCC probably have an nfl team or something lined up instead though.

Who told you about the Coventry Jaguars

shy_tall_knight · Oct 20, 2016

CCFC at the BPA won't happen
1- Cov Rugby don't want a big stadium
2 - Not feasible to build a big stadium at a reasonable price on such a small plot
3- CCC will not actively support it
4 - Local infracstructure couldn't cope with large crowds
5 - We are owned by SISU

Otis · Oct 20, 2016

Always said (like many others) it would never happen and of course this is a very valid point. This would be a joint venture, not uniquely a Coventry City stadium, so it has to be acceptable and workable for Cov rugby especially.

This is one bit of fear I have. I don't believe it will ever be built anyway with CCFC in mind, but I do worry that we are as a club might well wither away and shrink and shrink as a club until the Butts at 3,000 will be absolutely ideal for us.

I do hope Cov do expand mind. I hope they build a 10,000 seater stadium and challenge Wasps for supremacy in this city of ours.

shmmeee · Oct 20, 2016

dongonzalos said:
Who told you about the Coventry Jaguars

Shhh, they told us at the meeting to keep Coventry: City of Egg Chasers to ourselves!

Now Sisu will scupper us by moving out of Coventry to a local authority that doesn't put egg chasing first, like Rugby.

shy_tall_knight · Oct 20, 2016

shmmeee said:
Shhh, they told us at the meeting to keep Coventry: City of Egg Chasers to ourselves!

Now Sisu will scupper us by moving out of Coventry to a local authority that doesn't put egg chasing first, like Rugby.

"Rugby - Town of Football" - could work

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Oct 20, 2016

I do think that the Ricoh is far too big for wasps. They get far lower crowds than we would in the Championship. Time will tell if they can carry this through long term.

Hugh Jarse · Oct 20, 2016

shy_tall_knight said:
CCFC at the BPA won't happen
1- Cov Rugby don't want a big stadium
2 - Not feasible to build a big stadium at a reasonable price on such a small plot
3- CCC will not actively support it
4 - Local infracstructure couldn't cope with large crowds
5 - We are owned by SISU

Points 2 and 4 are the real biggies, Spon End is a disaster at the best of times, can you imagine what it will be like on match day?

Captain Dart · Oct 20, 2016

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I do think that the Ricoh is far too big for wasps. They get far lower crowds than we would in the Championship. Time will tell if they can carry this through long term.

Agreed, its too big for most matches, the Rugby bods will fill it when they have internationals and City would fill it for cup-semi/run up to play-offs, but those events are few and far between.

clint van damme · Oct 20, 2016

Hugh Jarse said:
Points 2 and 4 are the real biggies, Spon End is a disaster at the best of times, can you imagine what it will be like on match day?

although the ready availability of class A drugs is always handy after watching City.

ccfcway · Oct 20, 2016

Captain Dart said:
Agreed, its too big for most matches, the Rugby bods will fill it when they have internationals and City would fill it for cup-semi/run up to play-offs, but those events are few and far between.

What about when Chelsea come to town, full house then

skybluetony176 · Oct 20, 2016

So. If this turns out to be true does that mean we'll have to add CRFC to the list of organisations conspiring against CCFC and it's blameless owners?

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