Grand Theft Jaffa

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Considering some of the stuff other officers have got away with getting sacked for not paying for a couple of packs of Jaffa Cakes seems a bit extreme.

Needed reprimanding, but I don't think it's sackable if it's a first offence.
 

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No idea if we're going for cake puns or biscuit puns but I'm glad this man is feeling the long iced finger of the law.
 
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Sounds a bit like they were after him anyway.

Not quite Al Capone levels of 'avoidance', but no doubt there is more to this story than nicking a few biscuits.

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If you want me to post "This really takes the biscuit" I'm not going to.
‘I’m gonna drop these Jaffa Cakes unless you stop acting like a fool’

‘What if it kills someone’

‘Oh er well everyone will think you did it because your name’s on the pack’

‘Why would the murderer write their own name on the pack’

‘To stop people from borrowing it’
 

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Considering some of the stuff other officers have got away with getting sacked for not paying for a couple of packs of Jaffa Cakes seems a bit extreme.

Needed reprimanding, but I don't think it's sackable if it's a first offence.
Depends on if you think that theft from a charity is acceptable by a police officer who is supposed to uphold the law.

If all thefts by a police officer are not seen as a sackable offence at what level does it be seen as serious enough?

Several years ago someone got the sack for not paying for a couple of cans of pop out of our works canteen. It wasn't the value but the act of dishonesty.
 

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Depends on if you think that theft from a charity is acceptable by a police officer who is supposed to uphold the law.

If all thefts by a police officer are not seen as a sackable offence at what level does it be seen as serious enough?

Several years ago someone got the sack for not paying for a couple of cans of pop out of our works canteen. It wasn't the value but the act of dishonesty.
It's not like I'm saying he should have just been left off. A final warning would have been suffice IMO. How many people here have taken something from office supplies for personal use? What about other acts of dishonesty like lying? Would even the smallest white lie be worthy of immediate dismissal? It isn't the value but the act of dishonesty.
 

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It's not like I'm saying he should have just been left off. A final warning would have been suffice IMO. How many people here have taken something from office supplies for personal use? What about other acts of dishonesty like lying? Would even the smallest white lie be worthy of immediate dismissal? It isn't the value but the act of dishonesty.
How many of them compare to theft from charity?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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How many of them compare to theft from charity?
Was the guy who stole from your work canteen stealing from a charity? As I believe your point was it is the act of dishonesty that was the problem, not who that dishonest act was against.

What if someone who works for a charity uses some of their worktime to do something non-work related that they know they shouldn't but doesn't declare it on their worksheet? Or prints a personal letter at work against work rules. Both are knowingly taking things from a charity that that person has no right to do so, so I assume instant dismissal is the only recourse for such dishonest action.

It was undoubtedly a very shitty thing to do and deserves some form of punishment. A final warning and heavily suggest he should make a donation to the charity out of his own pocket.

But compared to what other people have done and not faced dismissal it feels massively draconian.
 

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He deserved some kind of disciplinary action but not to lose his job, just my opinion given the really small value of the items.
But what kind of message does it send out if a police officer can get away with theft from a charity? There would have been uproar.

Maybe if he would have admitted what he had done or said he was going to put the money in later it would have been different. But he kept saying he had put the money in when he hadn't.

A bit harsh maybe but that's what they sign up to.